The Hermit
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Yeah, I misread the OP. Pretty crazy that they want to launch officially on the eshop
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RAINWAY announced: Third party eShop app for streaming PC games to your Switch
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Yeah, I misread the OP. Pretty crazy that they want to launch officially on the eshop
This probably won't be something I'd end up using much since I already have a Steam Link. Although it would depend since it sounds like this would be able to stream things other than Steam so it would have some edge case uses.
I've had some experiences with my computer hooked up through ethernet streaming to a Steam Link on 5GHz WiFi, and... it can be shaky sometimes, so I have my doubts on the ability to stream to the Switch undocked with good performance.
I've had some experiences with my computer hooked up through ethernet streaming to a Steam Link on 5GHz WiFi, and... it can be shaky sometimes, so I have my doubts on the ability to stream to the Switch undocked with good performance.
Banjo-Kazooie
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Um...Nintendo probably wants you to spend your time and money on their experiences, not PC. That's a pretty big reason right there
Fredrik
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Depends on what you're comparing it to. On a game that is supposed to be 60fps locked you might notice a dropped frame here and there if your wifi signal is shaky but, well, does it really matter? When most multiplat console ports run at 30fps or even lower you could still get a better version through Steam Link than the native console versions, plus you can run them at PC ultra settings. It'll be glorious to have this functionality on Switch. But I doubt that it'll get green lighted past beta.
Same. It could kill third-party support.
WeirdoStalkerJr
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Interfectum
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LordOcidax
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MEGATON
No, is not a good work laptop.
The thing is, though, for the most part this app doesn't actually enable that. If the app didn't exist, you'd just play those titles on the PC.
The only bit where I can imagine it'd be awkward would be situations where the same title is 'competing' between Steam and eShop. One interesting question would be whether this only works on an internal network (like Steam Home Streaming), or if it'll also be effective over the greater internet.
LordRaptor
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Wow, this is pretty great - the Switch form factor is a metric fuckton nicer than the WinGPD
Well that depends entirely on the kind of work you do really. They are coming with a laptop model more oriented for people wanting to do some work on the go
Huge Succeeded
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I swear to god about 90% of you have never streamed video games
or you sillyheads wouldn't be suggesting that people are going to, en masse, buy all their games and stream from their gaming PC (which everyone apparently owns now!) instead of purchasing the native, portable version for the Switch. Or that that would even be a serious consideration on Nintendo's part.
I'm -never- going to buy a PC version to play on Switch (with inherent latency, a drop in visual quality, and no portability outside of my home) instead of just the Switch version. That's a silly thought.
I think the GPD Win is surprisingly good for its purpose and especially at its price, and it's awesome to be able to pocket large parts of your PC game library, but I'd say it's too small to do useful work on.
NOLA_Gaffer
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The PC version is typically cheaper and offers better graphics; I can imagine most Switch owners that own Gaming PCs would likely go the streaming route most of the time.
mugurumakensei
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1) it's going to suck or not work at all unless you are at home.
2) even in the home, a game running on the switch is going to have a lot less lag than a game running through streaming. Moreover, the stream is likely to be capped at a res of 720p with a low bitrate to sustain streaming video.
3) there's some setup likely to be involved on the windows side so it's going to discourage those who don't like to fiddle to make things work.
4) the person has to own a decent rig to make it worthwhile.
So, with all that said, this thing would almost certainly only be used in cases where there will never be any chance of the game coming to Switch.
Huge Succeeded
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No, I can imagine most Switch owners actually going with the version that doesn't require additional running hardware to use. I can imagine most Switch owners going with the version that runs natively without latency both portably and docked, anywhere they want, if they actually intend on using the Switch to play that game.
I can't believe people actually think this. Have you ever used in-home streaming? It's great but it's not native. It's not as good and people will never see it as being as good, or as convenient, as just running a game natively.
In my home I've got three gaming PCs
three PS TVs
three Steam Links
an Xbox One and PS4 Pro
and a Vita
and all but the Vita are wired to one another on a home network and hooked up to a great router. Shit's great. I've got the best possible setup for remote play.
EVEN SO I wouldn't consider streaming from PC a replacement for games running natively on capable hardware.
You can't kill what's already dead /s
No but really people are overestimating how widely this feature would be used and how much it would affect native games. It caters to a very small niche. And the most attractive part of native Switch software, the ability to play it anywhere unconditionally, is unaffected.
Cymbal Head
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So are a gazillion clone games with stolen assets and names deliberately chosen to piggyback on the success of the game being cloned. Somehow I doubt we'll see a flood of these on Switch.
No sense?
It:
1) is consumer friendly (so yeah, for Nintendo, this makes no sense)
2) it gets people into the Switch ecosystem ("ooh, I'll buy a switch to do this! now that I own a switch, I might as well buy games that work on the hardware, rather than games that are running on my PC and displayed on my switch!")
3) it isn't giving devs access to the switch hardware any more than steam link gives devs access to steam link hardware, lol
We're talking about less than one percent of the user base using a feature that's only useful around the home. With lag. I'd use the heck out of it, because I'm a technology nerd. Millions won't.
If this doesn't happen, aside from wishing a PR nightmare on Nintendo for not allowing it, I really hope someone finds a way to get apps onto the system without going through their store. This would be absolutely amazing being able to play steam games while in bed, another use for the system that has very few at the moment. Latency on the Xbox one to PC streaming isn't that noticeable, so. I think people might be exaggerating how bad it would be
Lol PR nightmare for not allowing sonething they were never supposed to and never promised and 97% of consumers wont find about?
xxbrothawizxx63
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This is what I don't understand. Wouldn't Nvidia game stream be the go to solution if Nintendo was open to the idea?
Still pretty big news if it works out and runs well.
Since this news dropped I've been imagining an Nvidia Gamestream announcement at E3.
xxbrothawizxx63
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It'd definitely be a megaton level announcement for me. Gets the Switch closer to what I always wanted it to be: An Nvidia shield with the Nintendo seal of quality (maybe Nintendo will consider android again next gen, but I kind of doubt it. The Switch hardware as is with added google play store support that treated the joy cons as a gamepad would have been amazing. It'd be the end of software droughts and would have made some mobile experiences more appealing to the physical buttons crowd).
IsntChrisL
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That's cool but there's no way that Nintendo or Microsoft would be cool with this. They're not content to just sell you the hardware and let Valve make all the real cash on software.
That's not what would happen.
IsntChrisL
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Ah well that solves that then. Thanks for the insight.
CrunchyFrog
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So really, do we have confirmation that this guy has a dev kit and approval to launch on the eshop? Or is this another seasons of heaven, faith trust and pixie dust type deal?
Well I'm not sure you'd buy a Switch for this and this alone. Besides, you would need a fairly decent(ish) PC to make the most of it.
It's not like it detracts anything from the Switch. If third parties aren't porting to the Switch anyway, what does Nintendo care if people play them via an app on their hardware?
The only problem could be emulation.
no , browsers don't have the middleware yet to support it.
However, Nullsoft did have a streaming app that let you stream movies and music to your Wii via it's browser.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/14592/winamp-remote-on-wii
CrunchyFrog
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I'm not sure Nintendo will be keen on having an open source github project on the eshop, though. That's asking for someone to program in an app permissions-level exploit and open up unsigned code execution.
This is my thought too. It'd be nice to play Undertale on my switch, or try out various other steam games, but i'd always opt for the switch version of a game over streaming from my PC.
IsntChrisL
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Zero people could use it and Nintendo would still say no. We're taking about the same company that takes 3 years to give games price drops. You think opening this can of worms is on the agenda? Hell no.
And the third party talk I'm seeing in this thread is complete fan fiction. So because Nintendo's third party situation sucks you think they'll just throw their hands in the air and say "fuck it?" All that does is decrease demand for money-making games on their popular system. It's not happening.
It's for when people feel like PC gaming on the couch or in bed.
the_milkybar_kid
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There's no fucking way this is happening on Switch. I sincerely hope it would as I'd use the hell out of it, but there's not a chance.