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[Cipherr]

If they can bring in great characters from other series on top of the great Nintendo characters then that is a slam fucking dunk. And also gives hope for the next PBA, if Nintendo can get pac-man then surely third parties are opening to the possibility of their characters in games made by other studios.


I wanna see a updated fucking VECTORMAN. First game to get him will be bought hard as hell.

 

[gingerbeardman]

"unprecedented relationship"

 

[Fandangox]

when did we start thinking that a trophy means not playable?

don't you unlock player trophies in Smash?

Well first. All smash 4 newcomers have been introduced in a video/trailer. Second, it would be specially odd to introduce a third party in POTD in trophy form, not even game play shot. Third, the way the POTD is phrased makes it sound like he is not playable since Ubisoft sent the model as opposed to Namco and Sakurai's team making it like they did for all other characters.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man: The most iconic third-party video game characters ever... Worthy of being playable fighters in Smash Bros, complete with stages, music, assist trophies and items.

Rayman: Only worthy of being a normal-ass trophy in Smash Bros. Not even an assist trophy, let alone a playable fighter.

Ubisoft would have to play nice with Nintendo to get that kind of treatment

 

[Sponge]

Why is everyone quoting John Harker?

Am I missing something?

Everybody's missing my posts it seems.

I probably should link the John Harker stuff from last year in seperate links.

Here are the exact posts about it.

Absolutely insane.

 

[Neff]

why include a trophy of a mediocre character from a company that isn't supporting your platforms? I rather have the second tree from the left in DKC be a trophy.

Bullseye.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Well first. All smash 4 newcomers have been introduced in a video/trailer. Second, it would be specially odd to introduce a third party in POTD in trophy form, not even game play shot. Third, the way the POTD is phrased makes it sound like he is not playable since Ubisoft sent the model as opposed to Namco and Sakurai's team making it like they did for all other characters.

Sakurai could still troll a POTD as a trophy and playable later, it is his style to do tricky things

 

[Dark Ninja]

Nintendo should get Crash Bandicoot for the laughs

 

[DICKS AHOY]

So is this the remnants of that supposed Ubisoft pitch to have Rayman in SSB4 you heard about? Or more just a coincidence?

"unprecedented relationship"

Clearly the Wii U's lack of 3rd party support is Sakurai's fault due to him fucking up the negotiations behind having Madden and Dead Space's Isaac in SSB4 back in '11.

 

[oti]

If you play the game of Smash Bros., you get a playable character or a trophy.

 

[atr0cious]

Never forget:

Are we looking at the game Yves was hinting at that's waiting for more families? You think he's waiting for Amiibo to drop? He's been really vocal about the future in regards to Nintendo.

Makes since in regards to numbers you would need to want to even think about producing mass amounts of toys for an already ailing gimmick.

 

[ChitoCrisis]

Hopefully Rayman will be playable too!

Nintendo should get Crash Bandicoot for the laughs

That would be pretty awesome as long as it's Naughty Dog's version of Crash.

 

[Thoraxes]

Are we looking at the game Yves was hinting at that's waiting for more families? You think he's waiting for Amiibo to drop? He's been really vocal about the future in regards to Nintendo.

It was from the early leaked Rayman Legends trailer.

 

[Cuburt]

Nintendo should get Crash Bandicoot for the laughs

They could also get Spyro from Activision as a 2fer.

 

[pinkurocket]

It seems to be more likely that Ubisoft approached Nintendo too late into development. He could very well end up being DLC. If I were most of you guys, GAF. I would get in touch with Sal so he can talk to his source about this.

Well, it's been known for ages Smash 4 was in development and after seeing Snake and Sonic in Brawl, you'd think that Ubi would have seen the potential for Rayman in Smash a long long time ago. Especially when Rayman Legends was going to be an exclusive. I would definitely be interested to know how this came about. The whole tone of this reveal is so casual, it's really strange. I wouldn't be surprised actually if there really was more to this.

edit: oh i just saw some of the earlier links where it showed that Ubi definitely contacted Nintendo about this etc ... so bizarre

 

[oti]

A Rayman amiibo figurine would be so cool.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Are we looking at the game Yves was hinting at that's waiting for more families? You think he's waiting for Amiibo to drop? He's been really vocal about the future in regards to Nintendo.

Makes since in regards to numbers you would need to want to even think about producing mass amounts of toys for an already ailing gimmick.

If Amiibos make a lot of money this Holiday I can see Ubisoft coming back full force trying to get rabbids and rayman on the amiibo train. or even make their own toys to life platform the risk is huge tho

 

[Loco4Coco]

A Rayman amiibo figurine would be so cool.

How will it hold up?

 

[atr0cious]

It was from the early leaked Rayman Legends trailer.

Yes, but Ubisoft is privy to stuff most aren't with Nintendo, especially because of the second screen concept, cause Ubi to create a whole division.

The picture of the Rabid and Desmond make perfect sense for Amiibo, especially if Nintendo has some kind of toybox of their own they're planning. Yves would want as many houses as possible with Wii Us before even 2 to mass produce a Desmond Amiibo, exclusively on a platform with the worst sales and reputation for ports, especially from Ubisoft.

 

[Cuburt]

Well, it's been known for ages Smash 4 was in development and after seeing Snake and Sonic in Brawl, you'd think that Ubi would have seen the potential for Rayman in Smash a long long time ago. Especially when Rayman Legends was going to be an exclusive. I would definitely be interested to know how this came about. The whole tone of this reveal is so casual, it's really strange. I wouldn't be surprised actually if there really was more to this.

Just like how Snake, Sonic, Pac-Man, and Megaman have all been said to have been ideas back during the development of Melee and Brawl, it's possible that Rayman has been a suggestion that's been floated around for a while.

 

[Rychu Supadude]

I think I figured out the REAL reason for this...

So all the business and creative heads from Ninty and Ubi were in a boardroom

And they're passing a flash drive with Rayman's new 3D model around the table

There's laughing, shouting, hugging, crying over appropriate terms of agreement

The deal was seconds away from being finalised, when...

An intern rushed to stick his head into the room and said "um, it's completely impossible to accurately represent a limbless character with floating appendages as an Amiibo figure"

The suits start to pack up their empty briefcases, but then Sakurai declares "no, wait! An unexpected trophy inclusion is the perfect way to fuck with everyone's heads!"

He strolls out with a chuckle. The remaining executives shrug their shoulders and decide to flip a coin...

AND NOW YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY

 

[Smiles and Cries]

A Rayman amiibo figurine would be so cool.

how would you create his floating limbs and head?

 

[oti]

How will it hold up?

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MAGIC!

You're so right I don't know!

 

[Cuburt]

how would you create his floating limbs and head?

 

[Conan-san]

You'd think given the shit Ubi gave Nintendo that this would be the last thing Sakurai would ok unless part of a joke ("BASH RAYMAN'S STUPID DUMB FACE WHICH IS STUPID IN" bonus round ala the car in SF2.)

I know I wouldn't give them the space on the disc.

 

[ffdgh]

How will it hold up?

how would you create his floating limbs and head?

Simple. Magnets!

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Ubisoft must have known amiibos was coming to Smash4

still don't see how you make a Rayman amiibo with his floating parts
every playable character in smash will have an amiibo that is why I want Bayonetta in so bad

this also makes me hype for Shulk amiibo that will work in Smash and XCX

 

[Aβydoς]

You'd think given the shit Ubi gave Nintendo that this would be the last thing Sakurai would ok unless part of a joke ("BASH RAYMAN'S STUPID DUMB FACE WHICH IS STUPID IN" bonus round ala the car in SF2.)

I know I wouldn't give them the space on the disc.

Or maybe they don't fucking care about being petty and know that it's just business?
Jesus this kind of reasoning is of a 12 year old.
Same thing that makes people think Snake SHOULD be cut. Who fucking cares, he adds something to the game, he's a famous character, who cares if Konami doesn't publish games on WiiU? My God.

 

[Richie]

You'd think given the shit Ubi gave Nintendo that this would be the last thing Sakurai would ok unless part of a joke ("BASH RAYMAN'S STUPID DUMB FACE WHICH IS STUPID IN" bonus round ala the car in SF2.)

I know I wouldn't give them the space on the disc.

Given Sakurai's philosophy of "not gonna put just any third party character in the game" (Developer Direct, 2013, referrencing playable Mega Man), this could be seen as a middle finger to Ubisoft, especially if Rayman's case is unique.

Dont think such was the intention tho.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Or maybe they don't fucking care about being petty and know that it's just business?
Jesus this kind of reasoning is of a 12 year old.
Same thing that makes people think Snake SHOULD be cut. Who fucking cares, he adds something to the game, he's a famous character, who cares if Konami doesn't publish games on WiiU? My God.

but my feelings would be personally hurt

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Nintendo bought all of Ubisoft...

boom

 

["D"]

Well, this is QUITE a surprise INDEED......

 

[RMS Gigantic]

It looks like his other eye is wider, which leads me to think that the optimal viewing angle is from the other side.

Combine this with the playable/trophy data miscommunication idea from page 1 and you have the funniest SSB trophy backstory ever!

 

[dark_inferno]

Give us Rayman Sakurai, give us more oldschool mascots. We now have Mario,Pac-Man,Sonic and Mega-Man but we need more.

 

[Hatchtag]

You'd think given the shit Ubi gave Nintendo that this would be the last thing Sakurai would ok unless part of a joke ("BASH RAYMAN'S STUPID DUMB FACE WHICH IS STUPID IN" bonus round ala the car in SF2.)

I know I wouldn't give them the space on the disc.

Given Sakurai's philosophy of "not gonna put just any third party character in the game" (Developer Direct, 2013, referrencing playable Mega Man), this could be seen as a middle finger to Ubisoft, ESPECIALLY if Rayman's case is unique.

I'm absolutely sure Sakurai concerns himself with business deals. He certainly doesn't make friends with people who don't make games exclusively for Nintendo platforms, such as Kamiya, Kojima, or Suda51, and he definitely doesn't put characters into his games because he likes them or is friends with their creators, but rather picks all characters based solely on how nice their companies have been to Nintendo.

 

[Mistle]

The model/pose/whatever looks bad imo, could've found a better way to represent him lol.

Also, the story of Ubi actually wanting this model to be a character is rather funny... makes them seem so desperate haha

 

[ramparter]

Ubisoft was like "Please make him playable" and Sakurai was like "Sweet, trophy data!"

Dat Amiibo money!!

 

[pinkurocket]

You'd think given the shit Ubi gave Nintendo that this would be the last thing Sakurai would ok unless part of a joke ("BASH RAYMAN'S STUPID DUMB FACE WHICH IS STUPID IN" bonus round ala the car in SF2.)

I know I wouldn't give them the space on the disc.

With Ubi ignoring and talking shit about Nintendo, it would be a nail in the coffin for their relationship if Nintendo acted the same way in return. Seems like some kind of passive-aggressive relationship where Nintendo is being nice to Ubi because of some of the things they've done for them in the past (or recently ZombiU etc) and hope they'll get back to that one day.

 

["D"]

Ubisoft must have known amiibos was coming to Smash4

still don't see how you make a Rayman amiibo with his floating parts
every playable character in smash will have an amiibo that is why I want Bayonetta in so bad

this also makes me hype for Shulk amiibo that will work in Smash and XCX

I'm thinking that IF he's in and DOES have an Amiibo, they'll be "floating" via the transparent plastic parts that are keeping Peach up on her figurine.

Although even THEN it would look off.

But we ARE talking about Nintendo, who always strives to push innovation...

Spoiler

Rayman Amiibo parts held afloat via G-Diffuser tech confirmed.

 

[KittenMaster]

I think one of the reasons Rayman would get a shout out in a Smash game is because a lot of mascot characters tend to fade into obscurity very easily while Rayman has survived over the years, and the Rabbids franchise is popular with kids (at least as far as I know).

 

[Aim_Ed]

Since, Legends ended up a multiplat this seems like such a wasted character spot.

Spoiler

Rayman totally fits the game though......... So does Snake.

 

[Hatchtag]

Pit, Link, Fox, DK, and Peach all use clear parts in their Amiibos. Rayman could easily due the same without contradicting the established Amiibo style much.

 

[Estus]

As someone who only played SSB on the N64: Is there anything special about the trophies?

 

[3bdelilah]

Even though Rayman would be absolutely hilarious and fun to have in Smash, I believe Smash should be about pure Nintendo exclusive characters. Be it first, second or maybe third party, as long as the rights are with Nintendo. Which means no Snake as well.

 

[HUELEN10]

PSA: Don't search Rayman on DA.

I was looking for fan-made figures for Amiibo ideas. Big mistake.

 

[Hatchtag]

PSA: Don't search Rayman on DA.

I was looking for fan-made figures for Amiibo ideas. Big mistake.

Part of me assumes it's just rule 34 of the fairy girls, and part of me's imagining floating genitalia that isn't attached to Rayman's body.

 

[3bdelilah]

As someone who only played SSB on the N64: Is there anything special about the trophies?

The trophies in it self are usually just 3D renders with information about the character, but an assist trophy actually helps you during the fights. Honestly wouldn't make much sense to put a trophy in if it's not an assist trophy in the very least.

And if I'm wrong, please correct me.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

PSA: Don't search Rayman on DA.

I was looking for fan-made figures for Amiibo ideas. Big mistake.

Eh, I just did for a quick laugh and unless I have some filters on it was surprisingly decent fan art of the newer 2D games? :I

Honestly that in-itself is surprising for DA so.

 

[tim_pkmn89]

The trophies in it self are usually just 3D renders with information about the character, but an assist trophy actually helps you during the fights. Honestly wouldn't make much sense to put a trophy in if it's not an assist trophy in the very least.

And if I'm wrong, please correct me.

There's hundreds of trophies that are just trophies.

 

[3bdelilah]

There's hundreds of trophies that are just trophies.

Ah my bad then, I'm probably confused with something else.