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Report: NX to Feature PS4 -style Split D-Pad and Share Button
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I don't like it, i hate sony's d-pad.
I'm hoping that they move this to some other location instead.
Don't care about the social feature.
Schnozberry
Member
Just from a functional standpoint, if you want to have two player gaming on the go, then this layout makes a lot of sense. A d-pad would have a distinct disadvantage over buttons for gameplay purposes, and a split d-pad might be the most clever way to offer a workaround.
For single player experiences I'd probably prefer the Nintendo Cross, but I understand their motivation if they go with the split. Maybe they'll sell a cross pad version as an accessory.
For single player experiences I'd probably prefer the Nintendo Cross, but I understand their motivation if they go with the split. Maybe they'll sell a cross pad version as an accessory.
Bolivar687
Banned
I tried to tell you, Gaf. Nintendo has no choice but to copy what Sony has done successfully this generation.
purseowner
Member
Maybe do the split D-pad like this?
I don't know how good the GP2X Wiz was with this design.
Something about that makes it look like a birthday cake.
potatohead
Member
Pretty much.
Split d-pad is the best kind of dpad tbh.
The flat ones are the ones that are gross and imprecise.
I had to play MvsC3 on a Xbox 360 controller yesterday, that was one of the worst experiences in a fighting game I've ever had, if not the worst.
And it feels like she is always covering her butt with "Obviously all of this could change in the final product"
Ok great, so if she is right it gives her credence, if wrongs then ehh the design must have been changed before like she said it would.
DarkLegion
Member
Nice, hatena are the ones who did flipnote for DSi?
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
I just hope this thing somehow ends up being more ergonomic than these leaked sketches look lol
FarEastOfTengai
Member
Would be nice, but didn't they have all the information for both conferences at E3. Could be related to Sony's upcoming NY show.
wild wild rice
Member
Because the 360 d-pad is garbage. The Gamepad and/or U Pro Controller can't even be compared.
User123456
Member
Right, but what about the triggers?
traditional dpad is very much a nintendo thing
split dpad is very much a sony thing
people are averse to change even if it makes sense for what nintendo is going for
and that nintendo will probably release a traditional controller with the regular old dpad anyways...
It's ok, but not good.
They just should copy the exact same dpad as the snes one. Still the best imo.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
It makes sense that if there's going to be one controller that splits into two equal controllers, it would have the D-Pad be four face buttons. I'm not fond of them moving away from the old days, but if it makes sense, then good.
Also the PlayStation D-Pad may LOOK like four separate buttons, but it's all one connected piece. You can't press up and down simultaneously on it.
Also the PlayStation D-Pad may LOOK like four separate buttons, but it's all one connected piece. You can't press up and down simultaneously on it.
You're overreacting. For one, the Vita uses around 7W total so there's not a physical limitation to 5W for the whole unit. Second, I think that 2.5W may be a bit much for the screen. Finally, even a 2W SoC can be around twice as powerful as Wii U. Wii U is not a power-efficient console, my friend. It's not going to be weaker than Wii U, no matter what.
To be fair if her info is based on a prototype like she says, there will be changes in the final product for sure.
Dark Cloud
Member
Maybe you can switch out the d-pad split with a regular cross d-pad and every NX would come with a cross d-pad to change out if they want too?
Or maybe they could create something to where you could spin the split d-pad 90 degrees and each button would come together to form a cross d-pad lol.
I was thinking the triggers would be like the "B" button of the Wii remote. Like how it's placed in the back of the Wii remote.Kinda like this then
Given the different analog / buttons placement on both controllers...I guess it's a possibility.
EDIT: Ah, right, the shoulder buttons make such a thing less doable, though.
Fourth Storm
Member
Changing up the dpad...
You know what? I'll let others handle the necessary meltdowns for this one.
You know what? I'll let others handle the necessary meltdowns for this one.
Nintendo games are so gorgeous they need to be shared easier and better than "let me take out my phone and make a picture of the screen" lol.
Alex_Mexico
Member
The one thing I want the most is the right stick below the face buttons. Nintendo was doing it already with the GC and the Wii Classic Controller. I feel they did that change on the WiiU just to differentiate themselves from the Xbox controller which it seemed they were inspired greatly by.
Once the trend setters Nintendo has been chasing the trends in this department for years now.
Once the trend setters Nintendo has been chasing the trends in this department for years now.
potatohead
Member
The WiiU one isn't that much better though. The PS4 is much better.
Split dpad is simply way better for fighters and platformers.
LordOfChaos
Member
Capacitive button that takes you straight into Miiverse
Schnozberry
Member
Given the complexities this would add to construction, and the potential issues you would add unnecessarily with durability, I would think Nintendo would probably rather sell you an additional controller rather than swapping D-Pad's around.
Not a fan of the split d-pad because I love the nintendo one... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
Split dpad makes sense if they also need to double as buttons when playing as a sideways wiimote.
And they can always sell one with traditional d-pad down the line. I bet the 'pro controller' has a traditional d-pad as well, for when you're playing on tv.
Split dpad makes sense if they also need to double as buttons when playing as a sideways wiimote.
And they can always sell one with traditional d-pad down the line. I bet the 'pro controller' has a traditional d-pad as well, for when you're playing on tv.
Wii U gamepad dpad and pro controller dpad are best in class
don't play fighters but Nintendo's dpads are typically always better for platformers. seems obvious because it is.
thank you. people gotta chill, if this is true. it'll be okay.
Skittzo0413
Member
Yeah I was musing on this on the previous page. I think that'll actually be a key feature for detachable controllers in general. The trigger and shoulder button placement is a question of course, but I don't think it's an insurmountable design problem.
In theory they could do away with the d-pad all together and make all of the controller pieces identical with a 4 button cross arrangement, with different LED backlights labeling each button. That doesn't really match up with this drawing of the devkit though due to the two start/select/share buttons on the bottoms of each controller part, so I don't know if it's going to happen.
potatohead
Member
They really aren't.
Use both on 2D SNES platformers and the difference is night and day.
The split dpad lets you discriminate between directions far better.
It's better for both platformers and fighters, and especially 2D platformers.
Flat dpad is just Nintendo nostalgia. It was best until split dpad came around. The upgrade is worth if you actually use it and will know the difference.
Dark Cloud
Member
Makes sense. Best to keep it simple.
Its NeoGAF after all...
Ideally, the left and right controllers line up when you put them together.
Graphics Horse
Member
With this asymmetric setup it means there should be some kind of slot along the top of each controller to overlap the tablet edge. Possible they have a optical sensor inside the slot that turns it into an input, so would work as one big linear multitouch strip.
It's no PS4 Slim.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Sony style split d-pad wouldn't be that bad, IF it was like the DS4.
DS4 has probably the best d-pad right now imo.
The Share button is my least used button on a controller EVER, even less used than the old Select button.
I still hope that Nintendo will go the route of seperate Start and Select buttons. Having one button less to use on a controller is not really all that smart in my opinion.
DS4 has probably the best d-pad right now imo.
The Share button is my least used button on a controller EVER, even less used than the old Select button.
I still hope that Nintendo will go the route of seperate Start and Select buttons. Having one button less to use on a controller is not really all that smart in my opinion.
yeah gonna go ahead and disagree strongly there and I have used both frequently
with a solid dpad you can discriminate just fine, in fact you can tilt up or down while only pressing forward or backward (and vice versa) limiting the amount of thumb gymnastics you'd have to pull off to perform certain maneuvers
Nintendo and 2D platformers go together like lamb and tuna. it only makes sense that their dpads would be a cut above.
anon_mastermind
Member
Split dpad makes absolutely no sense.
If it means anything, Emily told me all that stuff before the article came out.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
It does it they double as buttons when detached.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Noooooo Nintendo Dpads are so good! Don't mess with perfection ffs
Skittzo0413
Member
Ah, I thought you meant that there would be no left and right controller, and you could attach either controller to either side, flipping the controllers for different analog stick configurations depending on your preference.
Who knows at this point... the leaks seem to be coming with less and less time between them, so hopefully that means the reveal is soon (not that I'm using logic to get to that point but whatever)