CrushDance
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No. Penis biting enemies=no. And "some issues" is No.DeadGzuz said:
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Resistance 3 Announced?
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highluxury said:
actually i think gaf was pretty much singing the same song, there were a lot of trolls back then in R:fom thread as it was around the height of bitterness between the console factions.
the gameplay changes that were put in for R2 were mainly those asked for on myres and gamefaqs who consist of just about the same type of fps jumping ADD fuckwits. although r2 does feel like it was made by devs who spent a bit too much time playing CoD4 while briefly skimming forum posts.
Resistance and killzone really should not be compared as they are on utterly different sides of the fps types. also dissing kz2 based on watching youtube vids should be a bannable offence.
the media will latch on to whatever they think will give them the most sales that month and r2 landed at the right time for them to get hyping, the same media also gave r1 a lot of flak purely as it was the current trend to slag off anything 'sony', the r2 reviews arent worth piss.
I'm kind of hoping they insert some historical figures into R3, like Churchill or FDR. I nearly forgot R2 was set in the 40's-50's, with all the futuristic alien tech running around, and having historical figures present would be a good reminder to the timeline the universe is set in. How cool would it be to be commanded by Roosevelt (aided by stolen chimeran tech to help his ailment)? Or given a motivational speech by a young MLK Jr.?
Resistance 1 was big pile of meh imo, if this wouldn´t have been a PS3 exclusive in the early days when there was no alternative no one would have cared one bit about it. Never played 2, but i can´t imagine the game being even more mediocre. I´m sorry Resistance fans that i don´t like your game, but i wrote the same thing about R1 like 2 years ago and since then i tried to play through it multiple times but i just had to stop after 20 minutes. They need to do a lot to make R3 interesting, i want it to be good...another great shooter is always a good thing. But i don´t trust Insomniac.
Hypereides
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dalin80 said:
As mentioned, RFOM just came out at the worst time of all, during the worst period in the PS3's life. But man at its core it was a fucking fantastic game. MP was so rich and addicting (still is).
A bit off-topic but man seeing your avatar makes me want to pull out RFOM again and continue playing the MP...
Good times... REALLY FUCKING good times. Sheesh.
.... if only there was a possibility to do an update with a R2 graphical overhaul on RFOM and I would be a f-ing happy guy.
Alas, Im a member of the trophy whore convent so I cant make myself drop my 'beliefs' and go back.
Digital-Hero
Member
Jubs said:
Timeline is severely altered. WW2 didn't happen and certain figures didn't become what they did in real life. It would be cool if Martin Luther King was a soldier in Resistance though.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
PnCIa said:
Bullshit, i'm overwhelmingly a PC fps player and resistance 1 was like those classic shooters i know and love. It had nice visuals, insane guns and was really fucking hard. quality.
Hypereides
Member
Digital-Hero said:
You know, this was exactly what I was thinking... it was WW2 for god sake, why didnt Insomniac take some crazy shit like the americans, brits and nazis fighting along side to stop the chimeras.
You working together with Hitler, or seeing him like NPC.
Or even narrate that Churchill has gone into an alliance with Hitler.
I want Insomniac to give me THEIR depection of hitler. Make him a hero? important general of your squad? a commander at the main defence central? Give him a napoleon-esque stance with a cape and everything? Make a mission where you have to RESCUE him?
.... BUT Of course keep it to a minimum, without going overboard like making something like Stalin being a huge chimeran crab looking boss or some shit.
... but YES the involvement of important historical figures is SEVERELY lacking.
Time still hasnt run out, if Insomniac is creative enough they can make a twist of how Hitler/Churchill/JFK/lyndon is still alive and you somehow co-operate with him/them on fighting the chimeran forces.
Drop the alien bullshit Insomniac, please ;_;.
They should really exploit the history line overall.
msdstc said:
I know. I was part of them. (GAF Nights)
well... somewhat.
However I guess you may have missed a small (read:HUGE) amount of 'hate' feedback comments during the game informer reveal thread.
Wow that is an incredibly harsh revie--Jax said:then go play quake 2 again.
Killzone 2 is pretty fucking fantastic. So many visual set pieces and I had a ton of fun with it. Knifing helghast never gets boring.
from the R2 thread.
This Fucking THIS.
Can't say I disagree with you on anything
Jubs said:
They kind of fucked up the Resistance 2 storyline. The populations of Asia, Africa, South America, North America, and Continental Europe were lost. Australia was a human refuge but was wracked by civil war due to fighting for resources.
The entire human population on the planet at this point is likely < 30 million people, and therefore, there isn't much left of humanity for there to be significant historical figures unless they somehow conveniently avoided the genocide.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
BobsRevenge said:
This...
over anything in R2
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Except that level was actually especially ugly in R1.~Devil Trigger~ said:This...
over anything in R2
TheMissingLink
Member
R1 was superior in every single way to R2.
Sad, but true.
I sincerely hope Insomniac learned their lesson...
Sad, but true.
I sincerely hope Insomniac learned their lesson...
theignoramus
Member
I call bullshit on this.PnCIa said:
It probably would have been an even bigger hit had it been multiplatform, R1 was a strong, solid shooter with atmosphere, awesome feeling weapons, and a well designed MP. It was certainly a better game than fucking Call of Duty 2 or Perfect Dark Zero.
Epic Tier 3 Engineer
Banned
Bland game is bland. That pic looks hauntingly beautiful...for three seconds. The entire game looked like that, only brown.BobsRevenge said:
BattleMonkey
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Big problem with R1 was just the general shitty textures everywhere. When you got semi close to anything it was clear it was pretty flat looking. R2 while improving the textures did it in such a poor way with bad blending of shitty muddy textures with hyper detailed ones which made it look so awkward. R1 was technically inferior, but was just more cohesive looking.
One of the things that really irked me with R2 was how pretty much the entire multiplayer looked like the same shitty old graphics from R1, just now with extra lighting. Really did we need the shitty maps and 80 players? I would have preferred to see the visual enhancements the SP got applied to the MP portion because the MP in R2 is god awful visually.
One of the things that really irked me with R2 was how pretty much the entire multiplayer looked like the same shitty old graphics from R1, just now with extra lighting. Really did we need the shitty maps and 80 players? I would have preferred to see the visual enhancements the SP got applied to the MP portion because the MP in R2 is god awful visually.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Who gives a shit that its god awful graphically when you're fucking about with 59 other dudes? The huge multiplayer matches were completely out of control and completely awesome for it. Plus all the aim assists meant I didn't have to feel frustrated nearly every time I try to kill someone. I like that.BattleMonkey said:
The smaller matches in R2 were never as fun as the huge ones.
BattleMonkey
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BobsRevenge said:
R2 80 player MP was one of the worst MP experiences I have played in several years.... outside of Punisher No Mercy demo.... but moving on.....
It was all completely and utterly pointless. You were spawned near a select few people, you never generally saw more than a handful of players on the screen at once. Even in 40 player R1 I would see more players in battle than in R2 due to how absolutely shitty the maps were in the sequel. You never felt at all like you were contributing to anything other than your own little tiny world of the big 80 player match.
Weapon balance was awful, the berserks were stupid shit that just gave a big advantage to the vet players who could one shot groups of players in one blast. Letting players select weapons at start just made it clear which weapons never got used.
There was pretty much no benefit to the 80 player matches. The whole teamwork aspect put forth by the devs was never seen, there was little to no communication in any public game, it was just awful.
Coop mode was only redeeming quality to come out of R2
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
No.BattleMonkey said:
The coop was awesome,
But no.
60 player matches were clusterfucks of awesome. They worked well because a lot of the time it was more like 2 squads on 2 squads, but when the shit came together and hit the fan, it was awesome. In the times inbetween there was always action going on, and the way everything shifted around was really cool. I'm definitely a big fan.
And I'm pretty sure that 60 was the player limit, not 80.
It's just that R1 and R2 both didn't have the gritty feel in terms of colour work as other shooters such as say KZ2.
To me it's high gloss monotonous (not to be confused with brown or grey colour overall) primary colour palette seems much more befitting in a Ratchet and Clank title.
I am with other members here as I enjoyed the first one far more than R2.
One of the prime reason for dislike is that how obvious they made their scenarios with weapon selections that were perfectly paired for the enemy type.
Personally, I liked the intended story but the method of delivery was poor.
Of course in all this hate, I still concede that to me, there were more atmospheric moments in R2 than R1 with radio chatter, dead bodies in houses, ships floating over-head.
To me it's high gloss monotonous (not to be confused with brown or grey colour overall) primary colour palette seems much more befitting in a Ratchet and Clank title.
I am with other members here as I enjoyed the first one far more than R2.
One of the prime reason for dislike is that how obvious they made their scenarios with weapon selections that were perfectly paired for the enemy type.
Personally, I liked the intended story but the method of delivery was poor.
Of course in all this hate, I still concede that to me, there were more atmospheric moments in R2 than R1 with radio chatter, dead bodies in houses, ships floating over-head.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
I didn't like R1's multiplayer that much, personally.DigiMish said:
Probably because I sucked at it... :lol
fistfulofmetal
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like. has anyone at insomniac ever come out to comment on the google maps texture? i mean seriously. that shit is embarrassing and unacceptable. we deserve an apology for that.
I don't think the PLAYABLE areas were much of a problem, size wise anyways. I mean, pretty much every major firefight took place in a wide open area. The problem was there was usually only ONE correct way of getting though it. You either had to go to "this" cover, or get slaughtered. More enemies coming at you? Move to "this" cover. I found that quite a big problem.Kittonwy said:
Other problems I have with it are it just wasn't as fun for me. Maybe I didn't like the big battles, idk. I think my biggest annoyance with the game was no campaign co-op. I know JStevenson and others said it wouldn't work with the campaign that they had built, but goddammit, I had an absolute BLAST playing the first Resistance with my uncle. We played from 12 noon one day until the ending credits at 9 the next morning. That was AWESOME, even if it didn't seem to fit the co-op style in a few places. Shit, they could have at least cut the few times where having two players was impossible (like CoD: WaW did). For R2, I played it at the same time with a friend over Skype. It just wasn't as much fun. I just hope they at least give us the option to play it co-op, especially when they game us nearly every other feature already. And WTF at no splitscreen? Complete bullshit (I'm pretty sure it didn't have it anyways, lol)
Kittonwy said:God forbid I'm here to tell you what's right and what's wrong because I can actually tell good gameplay from bad.
Killzone 2 actually has much better controls than R2 when you compare shooting from the hip or even aiming down the sights, you might have trouble with it, but people routinely execute headshots with the standard rifle from afar, compared to the R2 carbine where you can basically go scope and it's still fucking useless more than ten feet away, the problem with R2 is other than the sniper rifle and the marksman all the other weapons are extremely short-ranged, the whole weapon range and accuracy in R2 was just completely fucked up. And unlike Killzone 2, in R2 sprint doesn't feel like sprint.
In terms of boss fights, even a Killzone 2 mini-boss like the heavy is more interesting than fighting the stupid swarm in R2.
I'm not sure why suggesting better visuals is a bad thing, unless you like your games to look like crap, HDR lighting is pretty standard nowadays.
No, you apparently can't "tell good gameplay from bad". What you can do is tell everyone else what you think is perfect, and why anything different is "so terrible".
Killzone 2 had absolutely ridiculous input problems. The strange accelleration combined with the (slightly) corrected input lag made it feel terrible. Combine that with the "weight" of the game and it ends up feeling like you're controlling a tank, not a soldier.
The reason Killzone 2's sprint feels like a "sprint" is because the normal walk feels like a freaking crawl.
I can tell you that R2 was a considerably different game during the Private Beta. A much MUCH better game. Iron Sights actually had considerable impact on accuracy, as did movement. Unfortunately, people like you complained because it wasn't "Resistance enough" and it was changed, ultimately for the worse. Fall damage was removed, which pretty much made all the elevation in the game absolutely pointless. Grenade throwing distance was perfect and felt "right" until people started asking for Grenades you could throw across the screen ala R1.
Basically, the people who "knew good gameplay" ruined what would have been, people just like you. Screaming for changes during the beta, and turned it into what we have today. So thank you for your "knowledge".
And for the record, the problem with you and "wanting a better game visually" is that you want it in all the wrong areas with no real knowledge. You just toss around buzz words and then say "oh well it's virtually standard now-a-days LOL!!! indifferent.jpg".
theignoramus
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I hope you're talking about R2 here, if you're talking about KZ2, then I have to call bullshit on this. I've beaten it on Elite and there is absolutely more than one way of getting through just about any firefight, that's one of the reasons why the gunplay was so fucking satisfying. There's always another way to get through a level or section of the game, a vertical route, a shortcut, etc, the SP maps are designed like MP maps in this way. Which specific areas are you talking about?KillerAJD said:
theignoramus
Member
I also cant wait to see what GG pulls out of its bag of tricks for Killzone 3.
With KZ2, I think GG were mainly concerned with proving to everyone they could make a good console fps, now that they've done so, I'd like to see them be a lot more ambitious with KZ3.
The AI and level layouts in KZ2 were awesome, but some of the scripting and pacing in their next game needs to be a bit more audacious. For instance, that train level in KZ2 looked phenomenal from a visual standpoint, but nothing exciting or surprising happens while you're on it, it's just another series of gunfights with a wind element. I want their next game to throw some surprises at me.
With KZ2, I think GG were mainly concerned with proving to everyone they could make a good console fps, now that they've done so, I'd like to see them be a lot more ambitious with KZ3.
The AI and level layouts in KZ2 were awesome, but some of the scripting and pacing in their next game needs to be a bit more audacious. For instance, that train level in KZ2 looked phenomenal from a visual standpoint, but nothing exciting or surprising happens while you're on it, it's just another series of gunfights with a wind element. I want their next game to throw some surprises at me.
nelsonroyale
Member
Hopefully they get a hand from Guerilla on the visual side of things
BattleMonkey
Member
Massa said:
Why? New York was not talked about in R2. Also not all of the US was taken over by the Chimera yet.
We really have no idea what happened at end of R2 since it was so vague.
Also did anyone read the Resistance novel? I wanted to pick it up at some point, supposed to gap fill R1 to R2. The comic series was disappointing though.
Epic Tier 3 Engineer
Banned
The only people that noticed that post on GAF. I would never have known it was a "Google Map texture", nor would I have cared, because I didn't take the time to stare down at the ground from thousands of feet in the air. In fact, I thought that part was pretty damn cool myself.fistfulofmetal said:
What would you have them do exactly? Model each individual square? Are you the same guys that complain about static images of the sky? Because Call of Duty has been doing that for years, and it looks horrible in every single level.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Massa said:
what i got for the ending of R2 is that
the whole Planet(if not North America) is fucked. Europe fell, probably Africa too. Chimera won. plus our boy got punched in the face by a bullet
Epic Tier 3 Engineer
Banned
Dude...if Resistance 3 took place in Africa, it would be the most amazing thing ever. Teach the Resident Evil guys how to do things right...Chimeran elephants and tigers or something. Or just regular elephants and tigers. Think about it...mankinds last hope is buried deep underground in some African lab yadda yadda. Works perfectly, gives me an excuse to venture forth.~Devil Trigger~ said:
I really just want to fight elephants and tigers in some capacity, dammit. RE5 should have delivered.
How many zoos does New York have?
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Halo 3 already did Africa.Epic Tier 3 Engineer said:Dude...if Resistance 3 took place in Africa, it would be the most amazing thing ever. Teach the Resident Evil guys how to do things right...Chimeran elephants and tigers or something. Or just regular elephants and tigers. Think about it...mankinds last hope is buried deep underground in some African lab yadda yadda. Works perfectly, gives me an excuse to venture forth.
I really just want to fight elephants and tigers in some capacity, dammit. RE5 should have delivered.
How many zoos does New York have?
I hope it does Russia. You know, cloven and shit. It'd bring it back to the R1 international story instead of the more predictable R2 USA story.
BattleMonkey
Member
~Devil Trigger~ said:
Well from the coop missions and Retribution, it would seem the UK is still free from the Chimera for the most part and still fighting. Pockets of resistance also throughout Europe still in battle. Also in R2
All the Chimeran fleet pulled out of the US and went to Mexico.