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Rich (IGN): "Some very interesting Wii U-related news coming tomorrow" [Up: Rayman]
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Relaxed Muscle
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He is not in charge of the PS3-360 sections, so of course he gonna make preference to the Wii U part of the question. And I consider a delay of one of the biggest and more promising games of Wii U in the next months quite important.
I'd agree he could choosed a different way to tease it, since 99% of the time some guy teases something interesting are good news, but I don't get why the actual news isn't relevant enough...
Brainiac 8
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It's like that time that Final Fantasy XIII went multiplatform and because of that, Sony went under.
Those were the days...
Those were the days...
Portugeezer
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Oh snap!
BobTheFork
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eh, it's worded horribly. Also I'm sick of teaser giving no information and then saying 'pfff whatever, your fault for assuming anything'
If he read this thread, his response would certainly be appropriate. He shouldn't have to be blamed for the assumptions we make, his original statement was correct. Sure, its bad news instead of good news, but journalists shouldn't be taking sides with game systems.
People are more annoyed because Rayman Legends was the one game in the middle of the drought which ends at the end of March. Now there's nothing until Lego City and Monster Hunter.
TheDrowningMan
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I'm sure there will be the usual tropes wheeled out by the cognitively abject. "360 would have broken all kinds of launch records if it weren't for shortages!" while ignoring 2+ years of pretty anaemic sales when it was right there for everyone to grab.
The PS3 & 360 had a tough time winning people over, and I think people are going to be surprised at how many have only really transitioned over to one of them in the last two or three years and aren't going to see an upgrade worthy of $400. Put it this way, I'd be surprised if we don't have at least another five CoD games on the current consoles.
This has been a weird generation all round, and for the industry's sake I hope individual publishers who can't definitely sustain it don't plough money into, say, five big budget projects per year and end up drowning because of it. Scale back, whether that's in terms of technical ambition or just the number of games you're looking to put out because I don't think the industry needs yet fewer publishers capable of getting major games out there.
By the same token, I hope there is a real attempt to cultivate an audience on all platforms that have a viable install base; I still feel there was a lot of opportunity to make money with Wii, and certainly not in place of or at the detriment of the mainline HD projects. Unfortunately, that was soon replaced by an embarrassing surfeit of imagination and ambition to do so, and there was just no audience by 2009 or thereabouts.
Shadow2222
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Why did I buy a Wii U at launch? Man, I'm stupid. I'm repeating the same mistake I made with the Wii (which I played a grand total of 5 games on).
Luckily I collect game systems, but I would've preferred to have gotten it cheap if it will only end up having a couple games I like.
Luckily I collect game systems, but I would've preferred to have gotten it cheap if it will only end up having a couple games I like.
As a consumer why would I care what happened with other launches years ago, if I'm looking to buy gaming hardware now, why would I choose the Wii U and not other consoles?
Wii U isn't cheaper, it doesn't have better games or better looking games, its not getting the big 3rd party games, Nintendo isn't releasing games for it...they're announcing them without release dates.
As of today, this machine offers no advantages over the competition. Consumers see that.
Honestly, Rich didn't deceive anyone with his Tweets and to whomever was hyped, you have yourselves to blame.
Nevertheless, teasing in such a manner for "bad news" is quite obviously trolling and being intentionally misleading. He knew perfectly well how people would interpret the Tweet, ESPECIALLY after the PXZ announcement, and purposefully phrased it in that way to give people false hope (and yes, create hype). He isn't without guilt.
Nevertheless, teasing in such a manner for "bad news" is quite obviously trolling and being intentionally misleading. He knew perfectly well how people would interpret the Tweet, ESPECIALLY after the PXZ announcement, and purposefully phrased it in that way to give people false hope (and yes, create hype). He isn't without guilt.
Sir_Crocodile
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Exactly, it sounds far more like a response he had ready in advance because he knew he'd be called out for trolling.
If he geniunely didn't get that people would have gotten hyped, there'd be at least a smidgen of contrition, which is what sealed the deal for me on whethere he was just fishing for attention.
Bel_Air_Jeff
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which aren't even system sellers.
rayman legends was a system seller for me..
i wanted this fucking game at launch.
Because its more relevant for the systems it was previously not even announced for?
Its interesting in the literal definition but if he knew it was bad news why even tease it? Everyone under the sun knows how video game news works. If you tease something its usually to build hype towards something cool. Now IGN is teasing bad news? WTF? His previous and very recent exact same tweet regarding DS was for some really cool news. This was done in the same vain so course people will expect good news. No one hypes up and teases bad news.
Besides that, even though I wasn't interested in the game, its terrible news for those who was looking forward to it and now have it delayed 7 months just so PS360 can have it. And what difference does it make? Release it now and even if it doesn't sell well you can release the PS360 version in September. Ubisoft would rather screw over the WiiU fanbase just so it can milk the game later? And in a year where PS4/XBOX720 are to be released?
Are people really going to be buying this game much more in September when its directly competing with Nintendo's own 1st party games and the impending launches of new consoles?
Nintendo screwed it up again, and we all know that. Their decision to release another under power system didn't work as well as it did with the Wii. And yet again they are going to be left far behind in terms of technology which like it or not does matter to the consumers. I doubt MS and Sony make the same mistake twice and skip out on motion controls or touchscreen capabilities. They did that with the Wii and paid for it. Doubt they do it again. This time they will have motion, touch screen in some capacity, and the horsepower to make the WiiU look antiquated.
All that accepted and expected what I don't get is why in the world they launched WiiU if nothing was ready. Lack of 3rd party games is no surprising but lack of any big hitters from Nintendo itself is disturbing. Pikmin is getting released when now? It should have been a launch title.
Honestly WiiU should have launched this fall. Even if it was going to be under-powered, they could have at least launched with serious killer games.
yep kinda sad really
Holy Order Sol
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Has teasing ever NOT resulted in people making assumptions?
He knew what he was doing. He got the clicks he wanted, the hate just comes with the territory. Next time he just won't tease anything. Oh wait he will, because you know, clicks.
That's relative. To me, Lego City and Monster Hunter helped sell the system to me whereas I had little interest in Rayman
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
You give NeoGAF-Lately far too much credit in the maturity category
peanutbutterlatte
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I don't know what's worse, the fact he did this, or the fact his Twitter page is full of the phrase "LOL" spelled in caps.
boyshine
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If I ran IGN and one of my employees did a stunt like this, I'd fire him and publish an official apology. No amount of clicks can make up for the damage this does to a reputation. Not that IGN has a great reputation to begin with, but you don't piss off your readers intentionally, that's just bad business.
And I'm not annoyed by the game losing its exclusivity, Ubisoft can do what they want with the game, but it's the complete lack of respect for his own readers that gets me here. It's like if Apple put up a silhouette of a TV on their website tomorrow, with the text "a new connection" under it.. and then it turned out they were releasing a white version of their HDMI cable. You just don't tease people like that.
And I'm not annoyed by the game losing its exclusivity, Ubisoft can do what they want with the game, but it's the complete lack of respect for his own readers that gets me here. It's like if Apple put up a silhouette of a TV on their website tomorrow, with the text "a new connection" under it.. and then it turned out they were releasing a white version of their HDMI cable. You just don't tease people like that.
ElRenoRaven
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You know I'm not going to call him a dick. He's just doing what IGN does but to his credit he was tame.
Usually if there is news you see IGN guys go OMG EARTH SHATTERING NEWS COMING SOON. Then you see hype and more hype as people guess and then it's something like Microsoft to add another useless media app to xbox live and it's locked behind gold.
To his credit he simply said it's interesting news and left it at that. He chose the wrong word in interesting but I don't think it makes him a dick. If he wanted to be a dick he would have hyped it a hell of a lot harder and been tweeting it out like made how important this news was.
Usually if there is news you see IGN guys go OMG EARTH SHATTERING NEWS COMING SOON. Then you see hype and more hype as people guess and then it's something like Microsoft to add another useless media app to xbox live and it's locked behind gold.
To his credit he simply said it's interesting news and left it at that. He chose the wrong word in interesting but I don't think it makes him a dick. If he wanted to be a dick he would have hyped it a hell of a lot harder and been tweeting it out like made how important this news was.
phalestine
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Well it is IGN, cant be to surprised there.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Kotaku?
Sir_Crocodile
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pageclicks
I don't know which one I'd prefer a lot of posters to pick up lately, this or some understanding of context. Everything about this situation is shitty from all angles minus PS360 folks getting some Rayman love.
Drinky Crow
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how is this not interesting and NOT good news for most folks?
So who owns the Wonderful 101 IP?
Does Nintendo have a claim to Bayonetta 2 in the same way they do Goldeneye 64 and that's why that game can never be rereleased about Nintendo giving the okay?
Is the countdown now on for Lego City Undercover? After all NG3:RE was published by Nintendo too.
This is perhaps part, perhaps a small part, of why some Nintendo hardware owners stick to purely Nintendo games. To avoid frustration and disappointment when stuff like this happens.
Does Nintendo have a claim to Bayonetta 2 in the same way they do Goldeneye 64 and that's why that game can never be rereleased about Nintendo giving the okay?
Is the countdown now on for Lego City Undercover? After all NG3:RE was published by Nintendo too.
This is perhaps part, perhaps a small part, of why some Nintendo hardware owners stick to purely Nintendo games. To avoid frustration and disappointment when stuff like this happens.
Rush2thestart
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So wheres the hand that giveth?
Meesh
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I was thinking the same thing...
The giveth is to the PS3 and 360.
Mr. MondayNight
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Welp how else do you get people to click your links tell them bad news give them no explanation post link and profit.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
When a family comes to visit a loved one at the hospital, what do you think their most natural reaction is when the doctor says "I'm sorry, he's gone"?
... home, because he's totally cured! Sorry you wasted your time coming in here! That's what I meant!
1. Platinum & Nintendo
2. Yes, Nintendo have provided a lot of the development funding
3. No
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Mr. MondayNight
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So no one is bringing up the point that people will be playing GTA5 in September?
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