water_wendi
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Thats what i think. To go with the whole Fable flatulence obsession, Fable 3 looks to have sharted in its tux.Neuromancer said:
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Risen 2: Dark Waters revealed [New Details p#172]
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I do not think there is a Euro-CRPG thread, but I can give you a quick rundown on the ones you listed.jaundicejuice said:
Risen: Exploration based and open world. Action based combat. If you can enjoy a game without hand holding this is for you. As far as the exploration, there is not really large tracts of land that feel like filler as the world is very dense in terms of interesting locations.
Drakensang: The Dark Eye/River of Time: More of a classic style that plays like Infinity Engine games or Dragon Age. Super stat heavy and die roll based. You probably know if that is for you already. Pretty standard fantasy setting in both but River of Time is one of the few games where the main quest is a more personal sort of thing rather than "Save the world"
Two Worlds II: Gorgeous open world/exploration based game. I could honestly not tell you what the game was about even though I played it not that long ago. This one feels closer to the Bethesda games in regards to the exploration. The giant world is pretty, but mostly empty other than the set points of interest. Action based combat.
Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga: This one is the fastest moving of the games listed. It's action based as well with plenty of skills to play around with. The English version has a very good translation with lots of wit to it. It has a lot of exploration as well but it's more zone based than the open world games listed above.
Risen is probably my favorite of the bunch, with the Drakensang games close behind.
Risen, Divinity II and Two Worlds II are all great RPG. Particularily Divinity II has gotten nothing close to the recognition it deserves.jaundicejuice said:
As for recommendations to buy:
Risen: best exploration RPG to date
Two Worlds II: best graphics in an RPG to date
Divinity II: Rock solid RPG
So, I guess you could go with which ever game you can find for the least money.
jaundicejuice
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Ceebs said:
DennisK4 said:
Thanks for the run downs. I think Divinity II and Risen are the top two contenders for my time and money. I'll probably wait to grab Drakensang and its expansion in a Steam sale, if at all. They don't necessarily sound like an experience I'd be into. Two Worlds looks like it could be interesting as well but one open-world rpg is probably enough for now.
Id like a better combat system and thats it. The first one had promise but it still had this thing about it that I couldnt quiet grasp. I dont know if it was me or the game but I just know that I wasnt having much fun with it whenever I had to to kill more than 2 things at once.
The exploration and atmosphere and everything else gameplay-wise was great though. I loved how the encouraged the exploration by not giving you fast travel until certain points in the game and even then, you could only travel to areas that you had collected the stone for.
The exploration and atmosphere and everything else gameplay-wise was great though. I loved how the encouraged the exploration by not giving you fast travel until certain points in the game and even then, you could only travel to areas that you had collected the stone for.
Yeah, I dunno about the handholding. It's not like Piranha Bytes' games are particularly hard to figure out. But I suppose they want to attract players unfamiliar with Gothic/Risen as well. However it does state that "und steigert den Schwierigkeitsgrad nach und nach," so that's good
OH AND at the end of Risen when you're donning that SPOILER bomb ass suit of armour you collected solely for the last two fights in the game, and you're all like "come on man let me chop down some lizardmen in this baby", and then the ending kinda teases that it'll come in handy in your future adventures, and you're thinking "yeah sure, like the next game isn't gonna have me starting from scratch again, shipwrecked or out of prison" and you best believe this new pirate fellow is not going to be a 1337ly attired superman at the start of R2, and I guess what I'm trying to say is come on maaayne.
OH AND at the end of Risen when you're donning that SPOILER bomb ass suit of armour you collected solely for the last two fights in the game, and you're all like "come on man let me chop down some lizardmen in this baby", and then the ending kinda teases that it'll come in handy in your future adventures, and you're thinking "yeah sure, like the next game isn't gonna have me starting from scratch again, shipwrecked or out of prison" and you best believe this new pirate fellow is not going to be a 1337ly attired superman at the start of R2, and I guess what I'm trying to say is come on maaayne.
Yeah that probably could have used a bit more explanation up front. Other than that there was not much else in the game that warranted hand holding. Maybe it will be something as simple as a clear questlog critical pathing you through the main quest that you can diverge from as you see fit.pilonv1 said:
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They could "hand-hold" by completely re-tooling the skill system so it didn't punish you up front for thinking that spending a couple points in both crossbow and archery wasn't a complete waste, or possibly wanting to toss a few points into different spells, or thinking that you'd be able to block ground enemies with a staff. I'd love to know what fantastic treasures people were getting from exploring, too, because most of what I found was garbage due to the total lack of item variety. Sure, I could find +5 wis tablets or alchemy flowers, but not much else.
I'm hoping the sequel brings a forest that can't be traversed in under a minute, unlike the forest in the screenshot posted.
I'm hoping the sequel brings a forest that can't be traversed in under a minute, unlike the forest in the screenshot posted.
I'll also comment on a few of the Euro-RPGs:
Risen: Great environments and exploration, and great freedom in the early acts. Sadly loses quite a bit of its charm in the later parts of the game IMHO, where it becomes more dungeon/combat heavy.
Drakensang: The closest thing to Baldur's Gate you'll get these days, much closer actually than Dragon Age. Everyone who's raging about DA2 should play these (unless they already have).
Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga: It's the sequel to a Diablolike, and it still shows in the fast-paced combat and skill selection. Some great humor and very interesting side-quests. While it's not an open world game it does offer very rewarding exploration (since it's easy to find something interesting just by wandering around).
Risen: Great environments and exploration, and great freedom in the early acts. Sadly loses quite a bit of its charm in the later parts of the game IMHO, where it becomes more dungeon/combat heavy.
Drakensang: The closest thing to Baldur's Gate you'll get these days, much closer actually than Dragon Age. Everyone who's raging about DA2 should play these (unless they already have).
Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga: It's the sequel to a Diablolike, and it still shows in the fast-paced combat and skill selection. Some great humor and very interesting side-quests. While it's not an open world game it does offer very rewarding exploration (since it's easy to find something interesting just by wandering around).
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Makes me want this so bad.EviLore said:Pirate-themed Risen 2?
Just finished Risen a few days ago. It was amazing, and really gives that Gothic 2 feel. Honestly, I tried to go back and play Gothic 2 again (after getting it from GoG) prior to Risen, but even though I'd played the game before and loved it I just couldn't get into it. For some reason the controls were completely not clicking for me this time around, so I really wish I had written down how I'd set up the input last time, or maybe I just got used to it then and don't have the patience for it anymore.
I also can't stand the music used for general wilderness exploration in Gothic 2 (something about that flute or something).
Risen was so great (compared to say Oblivion) because it didn't feel "generic" like Oblivion, and wasn't overly big, yet had tons of things to explore and find. Making it not too big, not too small, but just right.
I also can't stand the music used for general wilderness exploration in Gothic 2 (something about that flute or something).
Risen was so great (compared to say Oblivion) because it didn't feel "generic" like Oblivion, and wasn't overly big, yet had tons of things to explore and find. Making it not too big, not too small, but just right.
markot said:
It hasn't been mentioned since it was delayed last August, but trust me, you don't want to waste a single penny on that shit. I'd rather donate $60 to NAMBLA then pay for that awful game again.
Thankfully, you have infinitely superior alternatives like the other games being discussed in this thread.
BlueTsunami
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Very happy they're keeping the skill system. I liken it almost to something like early Dragon Quest where leveling up and stat gains made a noticeable impact on the parts of the world you can explore. Wish more RPGs would trim the bloated numbers in games and make a condensed skill system like Risen's.
Pirate theme and possible exploration via ship skyrockets this game up to Skyrim levels of anticipation. Oh and will be buying for PC.
Pirate theme and possible exploration via ship skyrockets this game up to Skyrim levels of anticipation. Oh and will be buying for PC.
Salaadin said:
It could be a bit smoother but I actually think the combat system in Risen was one of the better ones from action WRPGs. You had your rapid sidestep/backstep moves to help reposition yourself against the melee monsters so once I picked up the timing it became a sort of "short combo->dodge/reposition->short combo" attack pattern for me.
ThatGuy said:
Not sure I'm liking the whole "no minimap" thing. It really comes in handy, like in all open RPGs, and it's nice to have it there if you really get stuck. Nothing forces you to look at the map in the questlog to see the location of things if you don't want to. I also like how the really useful version of the island map was a quest reward and not just given to you.
Discotheque
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incredible info incredible news so very excite.
if risen 2 makes it out this year...then wow pc. risen 2, witcher 2, deus ex 3, duke nukem, bulletstorm (if it's as good as painkiller) I can't take it
if risen 2 makes it out this year...then wow pc. risen 2, witcher 2, deus ex 3, duke nukem, bulletstorm (if it's as good as painkiller) I can't take it
Raggy said:
D3 will probably hit at the later end of this year, but I have no idea why you listed Fo4 (or, rather, the next Fallout title). Your post is in reply to another stating there's two great RPGs hitting this year and you even state that you're not expecting it until 2012. Whatsmore, it hasn't even been announced.
You should replace it with Torchlight II (July).
fizzelopeguss
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running around the early game in shit covered farmer rags with a little wooden sword IS the gothic experience. If they casual-crap it i will be fucking livid.
OG Risen was a little too lacking in flourish to keep me interested, gorgeous foliage or no, but this one had me at 'pirate-themed.' Bring it on.
Also, that is a GREAT website.
Also, something about Pirates of Dark Waters that it's too early in the morning for me to make work.
Also, that is a GREAT website.
Also, something about Pirates of Dark Waters that it's too early in the morning for me to make work.
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past Piranha Bytes games have not been pick up and play friendly? dur what? that's brilliant.
awesome screenshots though!
awesome screenshots though!
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