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Thats what i think. To go with the whole Fable flatulence obsession, Fable 3 looks to have sharted in its tux.Neuromancer said:Fable 3 pretty much dug it's own grave.
Thats what i think. To go with the whole Fable flatulence obsession, Fable 3 looks to have sharted in its tux.Neuromancer said:Fable 3 pretty much dug it's own grave.
I do not think there is a Euro-CRPG thread, but I can give you a quick rundown on the ones you listed.jaundicejuice said:Is there a thread that provides a general overview of all of these Euro-cRpgs? Risen, Drakensang/River of Time, Two Worlds II (the first doesn't look too hot) and Divinity II: The Dragon Knight Saga are all games I'm interested in trying out, for the right price given some of the DRM involved, but I'm unsure of which to start with. I've been leaning towards Divinity II, but Risen looks kind of neat too.
I loved the hell out of The Witcher, my first real Euro-cRpg, because of its combat system (I enjoyed its interactive nature over say Dragon Age Origins detached combat system), the dark eastern European fantasy setting was an interesting twist on the bog standard D&D/Tolkien fare, the political intrigue, the racial tension between humans and nonhumans, every other woman dropping trow and, of course, because of the choices you were forced to make in the story and the ways in which they impacted your experience.
Now I have The Witcher 2 pre-ordered, but which of the above listed games would be a similar or worthwhile experience? The first Risen? Divinity II?
Sorry for the hijack?
Risen, Divinity II and Two Worlds II are all great RPG. Particularily Divinity II has gotten nothing close to the recognition it deserves.jaundicejuice said:Is there a thread that provides a general overview of all of these Euro-cRpgs? Risen, Drakensang/River of Time, Two Worlds II (the first doesn't look too hot) and Divinity II: The Dragon Knight Saga are all games I'm interested in trying out, for the right price given some of the DRM involved, but I'm unsure of which to start with. I've been leaning towards Divinity II, but Risen looks kind of neat too.
I loved the hell out of The Witcher, my first real Euro-cRpg, because of its combat system (I enjoyed its interactive nature over say Dragon Age Origins detached combat system), the dark eastern European fantasy setting was an interesting twist on the bog standard D&D/Tolkien fare, the political intrigue, the racial tension between humans and nonhumans, every other woman dropping trow and, of course, because of the choices you were forced to make in the story and the ways in which they impacted your experience.
Now I have The Witcher 2 pre-ordered, but which of the above listed games would be a similar or worthwhile experience? The first Risen? Divinity II?
Sorry for the hijack?
Snuggler said:hey Dennis, which should I play first: Risen or Two Worlds II?
Risen. It is an absolute gem. Take your time to explore the wilderness. That is the real pleasure.Snuggler said:hey Dennis, which should I play first: Risen or Two Worlds II?
Boo this dog! TW2 is a great game for discerning gamers.BeeDog said:I know you didn't direct your question at me , but play Risen and skip Two Worlds 2.
Ceebs said:I do not think there is a Euro-CRPG thread, but I can give you a quick rundown on the ones you listed.
Risen: Exploration based and open world. Action based combat. If you can enjoy a game without hand holding this is for you. As far as the exploration, there is not really large tracts of land that feel like filler as the world is very dense in terms of interesting locations.
Drakensang: The Dark Eye/River of Time: More of a classic style that plays like Infinity Engine games or Dragon Age. Super stat heavy and die roll based. You probably know if that is for you already. Pretty standard fantasy setting in both but River of Time is one of the few games where the main quest is a more personal sort of thing rather than "Save the world"
Two Worlds II: Gorgeous open world/exploration based game. I could honestly not tell you what the game was about even though I played it not that long ago. This one feels closer to the Bethesda games in regards to the exploration. The giant world is pretty, but mostly empty other than the set points of interest. Action based combat.
Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga: This one is the fastest moving of the games listed. It's action based as well with plenty of skills to play around with. The English version has a very good translation with lots of wit to it. It has a lot of exploration as well but it's more zone based than the open world games listed above.
Risen is probably my favorite of the bunch, with the Drakensang games close behind.
DennisK4 said:Risen, Divinity II and Two Worlds II are all great RPG. Particularily Divinity II has gotten nothing close to the recognition it deserves.
As for recommendations to buy:
Risen: best exploration RPG to date
Two Worlds II: best graphics in an RPG to date
Divinity II: Rock solid RPG
So, I guess you could go with which ever game you can find for the least money.
River of Time is actually a stand alone prequel, not an expansion pack. It's also only 20 bucks. They are not everyone's cup of tea, but I think they are much better games than Dragon Age. Try River of Time next time you want some RPG on the cheap.jaundicejuice said:Thanks for the run downs. I think Divinity II and Risen are the top two contenders for my time and money. I'll probably wait to grab Drakensang and its expansion in a Steam sale, if at all. They don't necessarily sound like an experience I'd be into. Two Worlds looks like it could be interesting as well but one open-world rpg is probably enough for now.
Timber said:Yeah, I dunno about the handholding. It's not like Piranha Bytes' games are particularly hard to figure out. But I suppose they want to attract players unfamiliar with Gothic/Risen as well. However it does state that "und steigert den Schwierigkeitsgrad nach und nach," so that's good
Yeah that probably could have used a bit more explanation up front. Other than that there was not much else in the game that warranted hand holding. Maybe it will be something as simple as a clear questlog critical pathing you through the main quest that you can diverge from as you see fit.pilonv1 said:I'm guessing it's so people don't lock themselves out of magic accidentally.
Makes me want this so bad.EviLore said:Pirate-themed Risen 2?
markot said:Ha, is Fable 3 still coming out on PC?
Salaadin said:Id like a better combat system and thats it. The first one had promise but it still had this thing about it that I couldnt quiet grasp. I dont know if it was me or the game but I just know that I wasnt having much fun with it whenever I had to to kill more than 2 things at once.
ThatGuy said:There will be an optional questlog (can be deactivated) and there is no minimap like in Risen.
Tomorrows a holiday, but Ill be working because Im announcing ANOTHER game tomorrow! Oy!
shintoki said:Damn, Witcher 2 and Risen 2 in the same year.
Raggy said:...and
Two Worlds 2 (out)
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (fall)
Dragon Age 2 (out?)
Dungen Siege III (Q4?)
Fallout 4 (prob 2012, and after Skyrim)
Diablo 3 (probably doesn't count on this list?)
DEEP SILVER REVEALS RISEN 2: DARK WATERS
Piranha Bytes team to explore uncharted territories
21st February 2011 Hampshire, UK/ Deep Silver and Piranha Bytes today officially revealed their new game Risen 2: Dark Waters, the successor of the popular role-playing game Risen. With an expanded setting, a fresh story and characters and an all-new technical foundation, Risen 2 will expand the success of the Risen franchise worldwide.
Set several years after the end of Risen, raging titans have devastated the world and pushed humanity to the brink of existence. Subsequently, monstrous creatures have risen from the watery depths of the sea and their attacks have brought all seafaring to a grinding halt. The hero, now a member of the Inquisition, is sent out to find out how to stop the chaos caused by these creatures from the deep. His quest begins with rumors that the pirates who frequent the southern islands are the only ones who know a way to get rid of the creatures once and for all and end their reign of terror.
With an all-new pirate-based theme, Risen 2: Dark Waters aims to combine the most loved classic RPG gameplay mechanics of the original Risen with a fresh theme and setting on a huge variety of themed island locales. A third-person role-playing game set in a dark and gritty universe, Risen 2: Dark Waters maintains the most immersive features of the original Risen, withmultiple approaches to every challenge allowing players to shape the game world based on their own decisions. These choices will serve to unlock new paths, features and additional skills for the character. Together with a highly interactive environment and a full day/night-cycle affecting countless aspects of the game world, Risen 2 will be set in the most immersive RPG game world so far.
The eagerly-awaited successor of Risen will set sail worldwide for consoles and PC. For a first immersion into Risen 2: Dark Waters, three illustrations giving a first glimpse of the beautiful new game world can be found on the official game teaser site at www.risen2.com.
Official website: http://www.risen2.com
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/risengame
Community: http://forum.deepsilver.com
Those are the major ones, at least.Raggy said:...and
Two Worlds 2 (Available)
Dragon Age 2 (March)
Deus Ex 3 (Q2 2011)
Dungeon Siege III (May)
Torchlight II (July)
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (November)
Mass Effect 3 (Q4 2011)
Diablo (Q1/2 2012)
JaseC said:D3 will probably hit at the later end of this year.
DaBuddaDa said:Those are the major ones, at least.
The process of doing this involves winning favor with groups of pirates. Unlike Risen, Dark Waters will feature multiple islands, at least three according to Piranha Bytes. These adventure areas will be smaller in size than Faranga from the first game, but in total will comprise a larger area of land filled with something on the order of 60 to 80 hours of content to play through. Piranha Bytes says that the multiple island setup allows for more exciting exploration, since you can't run around early on and explore all the terrain. Instead, you'll need to board a ship in order to travel to a new space, which allows for greater variety in environment design and presentation.
The combat's changing around too. Gone are bows and arrows, replaced by firearms. Throughout the journey you'll get access to pistols, rifles, shotguns and even cannon. Melee combat will be an option as well if the idea of firing bullets in a game like this doesn't sit well with you, and a magic system will exist too, though will likely wind up being different than what was present in Risen. Piranha Bytes showed off a few very limited combat sequences and Dark Waters definitely has the look of a Piranha Bytes game, though the protagonist's arcing sword swings weren't quite as awkward-looking as they were in Risen.
Generally these types of games are not very friendly to new players. They don't hold your hand through objectives, but require you explore, learn about the NPCs and the game world, and practice combat skills to excel. Past Piranha Bytes games have not been pick up and play experiences, and from the sounds of things Dark Waters won't be either, which I'm totally fine with. The studio is really good at what it does, as long as the game it winds up shipping isn't totally broken like Gothic 3.
lity this time around.
YES!in total will comprise a larger area of land filled with something on the order of 60 to 80 hours of content to play through
FUCK NOOOOOOOOOO!since you can't run around early on and explore all the terrain
GoodPast Piranha Bytes games have not been pick up and play experiences, and from the sounds of things Dark Waters won't be either
Don't make them too powerfulGone are bows and arrows, replaced by firearms
Graphically, the game is pretty damn gorgeous, it is the art that is a bit on the ugly side.