Somehow I feel the only people getting punched right now are the ones who can't play import games. Lol.
It's important to me because I really don't think Soul Hackers will ever come out here. I'd pretty much resigned myself to never playing it.
Somehow I feel the only people getting punched right now are the ones who can't play import games. Lol.
Somehow I feel the only people getting punched right now are the ones who can't play import games. Lol.
It's important to me because I really don't think Soul Hackers will ever come out here. I'd pretty much resigned myself to never playing it.
Nah, I'm English. Atlus doesn't care about us.
As long as you're willing to accept that people will also think ahead and point out that they don't care about the "negative consequences" to a company at the expense of consumer benefit. But then in that case you will see that it becomes a pointless cycle where there is no constructive discussion other than "this is bad!" and "no it isnt" and "yes it is".
Piracy in this case is a bogeyman. It is an abstract concept used by the argument to justify why consumers should "suffer a little bit" for the "greater benefit". The truth is there is no greater benefit. As a 3DS owner, right now I am unable to play Japanese games on my US 3DS. After it has been hacked to break the region lock, I will be able to play Japanese games on my US 3DS.
I do not expect the 3DS market to collapse and die after it has been hacked, because the DS market did not collapse and die after R4s were manufactured everywhere.
I play lots of PC games, which are the easiest to be pirated anywhere, and yet the market does not seem to have collapsed and died either.
The 360 was hacked and piracy was rampant long before the Wii or PS3 were hacked, yet it remains the strongest platform worldwide.
Last of all, Smartphones are also regularly jail broken shortly after release, and there's a ton of piracy there too. Yet if you ask any smartphone user if they feel that a device getting hacked has a negative impact on them, they would look at you like you were crazy.
So yeah.
Somehow I feel the only people getting punched right now are the ones who can't play import games. Lol.
It's important to me because I really don't think Soul Hackers will ever come out here. I'd pretty much resigned myself to never playing it.
Still, I'm kinda baffled at the fact that this point of view gets sawn of as people "defending Nintendo", where it's more being worried about the health of a platform people invested in and are looking forward to a healthy software output for the following years.
Saying 'somebody had it coming' implies the subject's brought something upon herself.Poster duckroll: 'What the fuck are you talking about?!'
Saying 'somebody had it coming' implies the subject's brought something upon herself.
If you drive at high speed on the interstate and you head-crash into a road-side tree, 'you had it coming'. If you're a psycho who kills puppies and you get run over by the school bus at the intersection in front of your house, 'you did not have it coming'. Yes, people may have wished you got repercussions, but you did not get bit by a cornered puppy who happened to carry a deadly disease, you got run over by a school bus. It it clearer now?
Sorry dude. hope the 3ds hack will make your 3ds region free then
Saying 'somebody had it coming' implies the subject's brought something upon herself.
If you drive at high speed on the interstate and you head-crash into a road-side tree, 'you had it coming'. If you're a psycho who kills puppies and you get run over by the school bus at the intersection in front of your house, 'you did not have it coming'. Yes, people may have wished you got repercussions, but you did not get bit by a cornered puppy who happened to carry a deadly disease, you got run over by a school bus. It it clearer now?
When did I say it was? I was just addressing your point since you asked. It has nothing to do with my previous point which was aimed at people like blu whose only interest seems to be replying to people who say something negative about Nintendo in particular.
I think people who are only interested in coming into the thread to "defend" Nintendo against perceived acts of injustice in comments by other people need to just chill and reflect on the fact that it should mean nothing to you.
The discussion here is about the 3DS getting hacked.
Saying 'somebody had it coming' implies the subject's brought something upon herself.
If you drive at high speed on the interstate and you head-crash into a road-side tree, 'you had it coming'. If you're a psycho who kills puppies and you get run over by the school bus at the intersection in front of your house, 'you did not have it coming'. Yes, people may have wished you got repercussions, but you did not get bit by a cornered puppy who happened to carry a deadly disease, you got run over by a school bus. Is it clearer now?
Analogies are fun but the original situation is easy enough to understand that you don't need to come up with silly stories to make your point, seriously.Saying 'somebody had it coming' implies the subject's brought something upon herself.
If you drive at high speed on the interstate and you head-crash into a road-side tree, 'you had it coming'. If you're a psycho who kills puppies and you get run over by the school bus at the intersection in front of your house, 'you did not have it coming'. Yes, people may have wished you got repercussions, but you did not get bit by a cornered puppy who happened to carry a deadly disease, you got run over by a school bus. Is it clearer now?
It surely is stupid seeing causality where none exists. And apologies about derailing the topic a tad, but it was quite funny seeing some of the reactions in this thread. Have a good day *tips hat*You boys are killing this topic. I don't even know what you're talking about any more. Is your outrage that people said they had it coming, rather than anything pertaining to the actual subject?
Because that's stupid.
You can already bet on a lot of european gaffers getting ready to import US Atlus games.I think we need a new thread that asks what 3DS games people will import immediately if this goes through.
I think we need a new thread that asks what 3DS games people will import immediately if this goes through.
This reminds me of a funny story. On another forum that I frequent, there are many anti-pirates. Those people actually turned out to be hypocrites. Recently when SRWOG2nd came out for PS3, when someone talked about downloading it or asking for links, there would be many "Buy the game!" posts afterwards. When SRWUX was announced for 3DS, the same people that told other people to buy SRWOG2nd are now demanding for a 3DS emulator and rom because of region-lock.I think we need a new thread that asks what 3DS games people will import immediately if this goes through.
This reminds me of a funny story. On another forum that I frequent, there are many anti-pirates. Those people actually turned out to be hypocrites. Recently when SRWOG2nd came out for PS3, when someone talked about downloading it or asking for links, there would be many "Buy the game!" posts afterwards. When SRWUX was announced for 3DS, the same people that told other people to buy SRWOG2nd are now demanding for a 3DS emulator and rom because of region-lock.
It's actually pretty fun calling out the supposed white knights like that.
Piracy is a much bigger problem than getting to play some obscure dating simulator.
Piracy is a much bigger problem than getting to play some obscure dating simulator.
Piracy is a much bigger problem than getting to play some obscure dating simulator.
This question has been answered already, but I still find it remarkable that it was even asked. Nintendo is the only platform holder that increased their region locking after all, while all others decreased it on their more recent platforms. That's a massive difference.How does nintendo differ from any of the other console vendors in this regard?
Well, what are they supposed to tell people? "Buy the game that won't run on your hardware"?This reminds me of a funny story. On another forum that I frequent, there are many anti-pirates. Those people actually turned out to be hypocrites. Recently when SRWOG2nd came out for PS3, when someone talked about downloading it or asking for links, there would be many "Buy the game!" posts afterwards. When SRWUX was announced for 3DS, the same people that told other people to buy SRWOG2nd are now demanding for a 3DS emulator and rom because of region-lock.
This question has been answered already, but I still find it remarkable that it was even asked. Nintendo is the only platform holder that increased their region locking after all, while all others decreased it on their more recent platforms. That's a massive difference.
Piracy is a much bigger problem than getting to play some obscure dating simulator.
If you genuinely don't think piracy and it's effects on software sales aren't a bigger issue than you playing a single title, then I don't really know where to begin.It's not more important than playing SMT4 though.
If you genuinely don't think piracy and it's effects on software sales aren't a bigger issue than you playing a single title, then I don't really know where to begin.
If you genuinely don't think piracy and it's effects on software sales aren't a bigger issue than you playing a single title, then I don't really know where to begin.
The myopia in this thread is tangible.
Region locking: bad for the consumer.
Piracy causing titles not to developed in the first place: worse for the consumer.
Bully for you. Doesn't mean that those of us who have an interest in the future of the platform can't recognise the implications of piracy.As a side-note, 3DS piracy is not a bigger issue for me personally. I have no interest in the 3DS. I have a large interest SMT.
Bully for you. Doesn't mean that those of us who have an interest in the future of the platform can't recognise the implications of piracy.
Of course, should piracy get to the stage where SMT games aren't viable any more, you'd be the first bitching and moaning.
Bully for you. Doesn't mean that those of us who have an interest in the future of the platform can't recognise the implications of piracy.
Of course, should piracy get to the stage where SMT games aren't viable any more, you'd be the first bitching and moaning.
You're doing a remarkably good job of missing the implications of what you say.On 3DS?
I'd praise the fucking heavens.
Right.Yes, because there has never been piracy on any platform before this. Piracy is a brand new thing no one has experienced and there is a clear and present danger that when it does happen the world will end. Right.
ROFLMAO.
You're doing a remarkably good job of missing the implications of what you say.
Where else would you expect these titles to land?
Yes, because there has never been piracy on any platform before this. Piracy is a brand new thing no one has experienced and there is a clear and present danger that when it does happen the world will end. Right.
ROFLMAO.
On 3DS?
I'd praise the fucking heavens.
Right.
Are you just ignoring the effects that piracy had on DS software, and the lessons that third parties will take on board from that going forward, or what?
We already have dev testimony that, having seen the effect that rampant piracy had on the DS, they won't further support 3DS if the same becomes a reality there. Is that to be ignored, too?
Don't you think that's more than a little console-warish to say? I'm also interested, where you think it would going to be viable on if the 3DS became overrun with piracy.
I agree. It's not going to happen. But realistically, Atlus isn't going to stop developing 3DS games because of piracy either.Edit: Considering Vita's sales, there can be a lot of piracy going on on the 3DS before the active userbase on Vita starts eclipsing the 3DS one.
Region locking: bad for the consumer.
Piracy causing titles not to developed in the first place: worse for the consumer.
Well, I fear piracy for what games 3DS can get, but it's better to say I fear DS-like piracy, where moms could buy 100 games in a card in an eye blink. 3DS should prevent DS-like piracy to happen due to costant firmware updates, games being usually much bigger, etc.etc. Let's say I hope it doesn't get close to be THAT dangerous.
Don't you think that's more than a little console-warish to say? I'm also interested, where you think it would going to be viable on if the 3DS became overrun with piracy.
Edit: Considering Vita's sales, there can be a lot of piracy going on on the 3DS before the active userbase on Vita starts eclipsing the 3DS one.
Hacking could cause developer to stop supporting the system
It has recently been reported that a couple of hackers have broken into the 3DS, allowing them to run custom code on the device. They claim their motives are good getting around the 3DS region lock for example however games developers, as you can imagine, are less than pleased with the news.
In a recent blog post Jools Watsham, co-founder of Renegade Kid, the developer behind the hit 3DS eShop title Mutant Mudds, claimed that illegally delving into the guts of the 3DS opens up the door to piracy something that could damage the industry and support for Nintendo's handheld.
If piracy gets bad on the 3DS, we will have no choice but to stop supporting the platform with new games.
Watsham rubbished the claims that people try hacked games before they buy them and pointed to the damage that was done to DS game sales:
Piracy on the Nintendo DS crippled the DS retail market, especially in Europe. Well never know how/if Dementium II landed in as many hands as the first game, Dementium: The Ward, due to the rampant piracy at the time. Dementium: The Ward sold more than 100,000 copies worldwide, which is a great success for an original mature-rated title on the DS. Recorded sales of Dementium II are less than half that. Well never truly know why that was so, but many seem to believe that piracy had a lot to do with it.
Renegade Kid is clearly worried about the impact piracy can have on the sales of games, but Watsham feels Nintendo is in a good position to combat it:
The good news is that Nintendo has the ability to put up a good fight against pirates due to 3DS system updates and such. Lets hope this is enough to stop piracy. Time will tell.