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Rumor: AMD DirectX 11 Card Performances, Prices Revealed, Surprisingly Affordable

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5870,
  • 2.6TFlop
  • 2GB
  • Idle is 25-30W
  • ~as long as the 8800GTX
 

SleazyC

Member
Little disappointed that the rumos right now peg this competing with the 4870x2 and the GTX295. Was hoping for something much more powerful for $399.
 

artist

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SleazyC said:
Little disappointed that the rumos right now peg this competing with the 4870x2 and the GTX295. Was hoping for something much more powerful for $399.
WAT

Nice hyperbole. I dont think there was a card with the generational leap of 3x or more.
 
SleazyC said:
Little disappointed that the rumos right now peg this competing with the 4870x2 and the GTX295. Was hoping for something much more powerful for $399.
It's the eve of the launch of a completely new GPU generation, rule of thumb is don't believe anything from anyone until you have multiple benchmarks from several sources.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
Niks said:
So tomorrows the day huh.
Anyone knows if these new cards will be available before late october?

I'd think Oct. 22nd would be kinda a big day to get your product out by around or before. I hope for my sake they are anyway, it either means a better card or a cheaper one. Or both!
 

Blackface

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Pimpbaa said:
Yeah. The Radeon 9800 was a good performer for a very long time. Same with the 8800 (so much so that nvidia keep rebranding it and releasing it again and again :lol)

Someone I know still uses the 8800 and it plays every game out there. I still use the 9800GTX and have no issues with anything. I am going to be upgrading this generation though.
 

nib95

Banned
Just sold my old GPU (GTX 275) for a profit. Lets hope prices and performance is reasonable so I can bag one of these tomorrow. Willing to spend up to £250 for the 5870. Any more and it's taking the mic a little. Unless the 5850 is a beast at a lesser price.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
vilmer_ said:
Crysis benchmarks, going to be fun!
ATI has always been a little slow on Crysis, but I hope they pull over 60fps. If the 5870 is similar to a 295GTX then it won't pull 60fps.
 

SleazyC

Member
irfan said:
WAT

Nice hyperbole. I dont think there was a card with the generational leap of 3x or more.
9700Pro and 8800GTX come to mind when I think of huge leaps in power. I guess that the 5890 or 5870X2 will be the clear-cut head and shoulders above all flagship graphics cards right now but for $400 I'll be interested to see just how much better the 5870 is compared to the cards (that rumors) pegged as competition.
 

artist

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SleazyC said:
9700Pro and 8800GTX come to mind when I think of huge leaps in power. I guess that the 5890 or 5870X2 will be the clear-cut head and shoulders above all flagship graphics cards right now but for $400 I'll be interested to see just how much better the 5870 is compared to the cards (that rumors) pegged as competition.
Leaps alright but they were not 3x, ~2x has been the best leap.

One small correction to the spec I posted above, its 2.7 TFlop. :D
 

cyberheater

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According to our own sources, the new HD 5870 offers over 1600 Stream processors. Amazingly AMD doubled the number of SIMD units from 10 to 20. Still every SIMD unit contains 16 5D units and a Quad-TMU. Overall: 1600 stream processors and 80 TMUs. We are talking about a videocard whose core is at 850 MHz and whose 256-bit GDDR5 runs at 1200 MHz – all for the suggested retail of $399! AMD is expecting HD 5870 to come close to the performance of a HD 4870-X2 or GTX 295.

There is a new ERM eyefinity which means 3 LCDs can be simultaneously supported at 2560×1920, with options for future cards to support six LCDS!!

The die size is 330 MM2 and packed with over 2.1 billion transistors. This translates into one beast of a card with just over 150 GB/sec. It is very likely that the 8X + 8X PCIe CrossFire slots of the new p55 motherboards for Core i5 will become saturated.

What is outstanding is that we are hearing that the HD 5870 will perform at just over 26 watts at idle and peak below 190 watts maximum!! That is quite a challenge for Nvidia to meet or beat in their own upcoming GT 300 series.

I don't know that much about graphics cards. How would that compete with say a GTX260?
 
Hold on to your hats people 'cause we're off!

http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewthread.php?tid=53938&extra=page=1

HD5870 Crysis Benchmark 分数
CPU:AMD Phenom II X4 955BE
Win 7 RTM
VGA:HD5870 1GB

Crysis 1900x1200 4AA+16AF DX10 Very High
min:30.**
avg:43.**
max:54.**

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"We finally figured out out the final specification of the chip that we called RV870 and the fact that AMD plans to call it Radeon HD 5870 doesn’t come as a big surprise. The chip works at 825MHz and has 1600 shaders, two times more than RV770 which indicates that the chip is two times faster than the year old RV770.

The chip has as mmany as 2.1 billion transistors and is more than twice the number the RV770 packs, which has 956 million transistors. The card uses GDDR5 memory clocked at 1.3GHz (5.2GHz in quad mode) and can provide more than 150GB/second bandwidth. The power of this card stays at 180W while in idle the power drops down to 27W, three times less than the 90W on 4870.

By a rough specification-based estimate, the Radeon HD 5870 could end up two times faster than the Radeon HD 4870 but realistically, you should expect the new card to be faster by about 60 percent across the board."
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15436/65/

5870 2Gb $449

5870 1Gb $399

5850 1Gb $299

For sale Sept 23rd, and Faud also mentions that the 5870X2 is due out a month after that, no word on pricing yet.....
 

SuperÑ

OptionN, ShiftN
MWahahahaaha, the time has come. Finally somebody will be able to play Crysis maxed out at a solid framerate :D
 

evlcookie

but ever so delicious
I was just about to post those pics, curse you mickey!

Having said that, this does sound promising. I look forward to waking up hopefully to some new benchmarks, in depth previews and other bits of information that make my wallet cry.
 

Hazaro

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Those are some nice numbers, incredible low idle power.
Chiphell has always been solid in past launches.

Looking at the 5850 myself, my upgrade amount has always been around $200 so that should hit that price in around 6 months from now (used) :lol
 

artist

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pestul said:
In case anyone is wondering, those leaked numbers are faster than a 4870X2 with a i7 rig.
Stolen from Kaotik @ B3D

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Keep in mind that the 5870 was overclocked, still pretty impressive.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
irfan said:
Stolen from Kaotik @ B3D

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Keep in mind that the 5870 was overclocked, still pretty impressive.

Interesting to see the 275 > 4890. Nice show for the 5870 though.

The vastly lower power usage at idle is great, really nice to see that.
 

onken

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What I want to see is more card re-releases on smaller dies ala nv 9800GT. With gaming/HTPC hybrids more and more common these days, it seems like an incredibly neglected market.
 

Cheeto

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Durante

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Memory bandwidth is a bit disappointing, I'll be very surprised if it's not limited by that, especially in inherently low-framerate situations (ie. with lots of alpha blending). Very nice upgrade for the chip itself though -- I didn't expect a complete doubling of functional units from 48xx.
 

cyberheater

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Draft said:
Cards are a little pricier than I was hoping (but not than I was expecting.)

I await to see the arse raping price of the cards in the UK... :(
 
as awesome as this is, i'm not sure that i can live without my Phys-X and 3D vision support.

i really hope we can get a standard for those things same as we have with Direct X.

i remember when those first DX9 9700's hit and what an awesome time that was. the doors were blown off, and i happily went Red for a while.

i plan on being in the market for a single powerful GPU down the line... but yeah. i like gimmicks :(
 
Ogs said:
Im hoping theres some DX9/10 vs DX11 shots released. Im betting it brings nothing visually (or it does, and crushes performance) :(.
i think we're fully in the area now where there isn't anything DX can't do, it's just a matter of scale and efficiency. if DX11 makes FSAO a lot cheaper for example, that's a pretty awesome upgrade. i'm seeing nice ambient occlusion in those Dirt 2 screens.
 
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