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[Ridley327]

I was always under the imrpession that Activision worked on this for a year before handing over to Nihilistic. I would love to see what was discussed behind closed doors for this game.

I'm not sure what gave you that impression; there wasn't any media released for the game outside of logos before Gamescon.

I think people need to accept that Activision really doesn't give a fuck.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Why on earth would you be under the impression Activision did any work at all on this, let alone a year

Because of this :

The studio added that “Activision's central audio group was very helpful in capturing the authentic audio for weapons in the game” and that development by Activision “started about a year ago” and Nihilistic “were brought in shortly thereafter.”

Sorry, I remembered wrong - obviously that doesn't mean it was a year PLUS Nihilistic's time on the game. More like a year minus their 5 months Still unbelivably short.

 

[Takao]

Why on earth would you be under the impression Activision did any work at all on this, let alone a year

Nihilistic themselves hinted at that IIRC.

 

[Massa]

Why didn't they just say upfront that it's a multiplayer only game and charge less? Nobody would have given a shit.

Charging full price on the other hand, should mean you get a full game.

Someone: "Maybe you should charge $10 less than the usual Vita game for this?"

Activision: "$10 difference? Sure!""

 

[NBtoaster]

http://kotaku.com/5745306/call-of-duty-for-ngp-will-set-the-bar-for-next+gen-portables
Jan 27, 2011 7:30 PM

No formal announcement but a CoD was known and spoken about by Sony since then.

Huh. So if they were so excited about CODVita why not let it have a zombies mode?

 

[frankie_baby]

Because of this :


Sorry, I remembered wrong - obviously that doesn't mean it was a year PLUS Nihilistic's time on the game. More like a year minus their 5 months Still unbelivably short.

That doesn't really say much, doesn't necessarily mean its true either

 

[Ollie Pooch]

That doesn't really say much, doesn't necessarily mean its true either

Why would the studio lie about it? Either way, doesn't matter, given the reception to it.

 

[GavinGT]

I'm not sure what gave you that impression; there wasn't any media released for the game outside of logos before Gamescon.

I think people need to accept that Activision really doesn't give a fuck.

I'm not sure how you can blame Activision. This was clearly made on Sony's dime.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Huh. So if they were so excited about CODVita why not let it have a zombies mode?

As the thread states... no time. They just needed a box on store shelves that said "Call of Duty" on it.

 

[whitemex88]

It really shows. The FPS framework is fine, since it was already created for Resistance. But there's hardly any meat on those bones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThhfLvR4Wo8
Correction. There is very little meat in these gym mats

 

[McLovin]

Too bad they couldn't just port the ps3 version.

 

[NBtoaster]

As the thread states... no time. They just needed a box on store shelves that said "Call of Duty" on it.

Zombies would be a better thing to focus on than a 42 minute single player. They completed the game with time to spare too..

 

[Skyzard]

As the thread states... no time. They just needed a box on store shelves that said "Call of Duty" on it.

Yet they could promise future support. None to be seen. Reviews are going to slam it and it won't take off. They should promise future free dlc if not a price-cut and refunds.

 

[cyborg009]

Huh. So if they were so excited about CODVita why not let it have a zombies mode?

As the thread states... no time. They just needed a box on store shelves that said "Call of Duty" on it.

I think on Twitter nihilistic tried to put it in but were rejected

I'll find it on twitter

such a shame too it seems to play well

 

[Kyon]

Too bad they couldn't just port the ps3 version.

But I thought vita needed ORIGINAL/SEPARATE games. Now everyone wants ports again?

 

[rbanke]

But I thought vita needed ORIGINAL/SEPARATE games. Now everyone wants ports again?

A guy = everyone.

 

[Ridley327]

I'm not sure how you can blame Activision. This was clearly made on Sony's dime.

I would imagine that since it is Activision's IP, they're the first ones that people need to be blaming!

 

[whitemex88]

But I thought vita needed ORIGINAL/SEPARATE games. Now everyone wants ports again?

this is why i gave zero shits for my psp.

 

[Yopis]

Which is longer than most Vitas have ever been on. I wish I was joking. :\

Garbage post of the thread. Keep the community access joke filler outta here.

 

[benny_a]

But I thought vita needed ORIGINAL/SEPARATE games. Now everyone wants ports again?

Maybe in the future you will realize that GAF is made up of individuals with varying preferences and opinions.

 

[Moofers]

There's no single player to speak of. The offline content is in the form of spec ops missions, time trials and a horde mode.

You can play spec ops solo. I've been doing it.

 

[AgentOtaku]

The problem isn't the game itself being a low quality rushjob, it's the disconnect between the game being a low quality rushjob and Sony presenting it as a major third party game and the Vita having not a whole lot this fall and people pinning a lot of their hopes and aspirations for the machine on the game.

Yeah, it really is shitty. Sony has no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Yeah, it really is shitty. Sony has no one to blame but themselves.

Kinda shows how desperate Sony were for content this Christmas that they'd release any old game in a bundle, quality be damned.

 

[Tobor]

Someone: "Maybe you should charge $10 less than the usual Vita game for this?"

Activision: "$10 difference? Sure!""

$10? It's should be $25 less. They shipped half a game.

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

At least they spend a bit of their development budget on the Metacritic user review positive feedback campaign.

46 of the 85 written user reviews are reviews done by accounts that were specifically created for COD Blops Declassified.
(Just for context, other games hover around 10% single-review-accounts.)

Earlier I compiled a few of those. (There are more now. The positive one-review accounts accounted for more than 67% of all reviews at that point.)

These ONLY wrote user reviews for for Declassified on Metacritic:
10 TheMightyJew
10 oMILLERoTIMEo
10 P8ntball4
10 edleao
10 dungey
10 DrDeath
10 marckivar
10 birthright
10 ephiroth
10 IBY
10 ImmortalA9
10 KonaBro
10 megazoidd
10 VR-4nic
10 d1897
10 hammy316
10 Nitendoheady
10 TheVitaMustLive

9 Vinbeansel
9 Torrella
9 wakey1210
9 billblue555
9 nm1043
9 lowlifemalakye
9 TwoLittleGamers
9 sparky7531
9 Sofamonster
9 TURBO777
9 David530
9 RasecMask

8 Deviator
8 Fruitbat1919
8 axlnizam
8 savvytonio

The fuck?

 

[iammeiam]

How long ago did the rumors surface about Nihilistic developing Declassified? IIRC, there were a few months between the rumors starting and the official announcement, so it seems like that might have happened shortly after development on the game started?

What's sort of sad is that Nihilistic apparently didn't do a terrible job considering the timeline, but the end product did not at all live up to the hype that initially built around CoD as justification for the Vita.

 

[winjet81]

The problem with this game is that it was advertised as a complete COD experience... but the reality is that it is nothing more than an add-on game much like Syphon Filter Combat OPS and Metal Gear Solid Portable OPS Plus were online-centric games supplementing their full-scale PSP releases.

Now, if Activision had released a full-scale 10-hour campaign mode with its Vita version of COD, and THEN released Declassified as an add-on pack, people wouldn't be as disgusted with this turn of events.

 

[Velcro Fly]

Really sucks for prospective Vita owners that wanted a good bundle on Black Friday and are stuck with this crap.

 

[BassForever]

But I thought vita needed ORIGINAL/SEPARATE games. Now everyone wants ports again?

Good original portable games > good console ports > bad console ports > bad original games

or more simply

 

[GavinGT]

I would imagine that since it is Activision's IP, they're the first ones that people need to be blaming!

But Activision knows that its core players don't care if the portable games are garbage. Activision has little incentive to jump in and invest money to make the game any better. They likely only agreed to the project because it was a free payday.

The fuck?

Yep, it sounds like every existing Nihilistic employee wrote a user review.

 

[GavinGT]

 

 

[Kazerei]

How long ago did the rumors surface about Nihilistic developing Declassified? IIRC, there were a few months between the rumors starting and the official announcement, so it seems like that might have happened shortly after development on the game started?

What's sort of sad is that Nihilistic apparently didn't do a terrible job considering the timeline, but the end product did not at all live up to the hype that initially built around CoD as justification for the Vita.

I think found out who the developer was at Gamescom.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486892

 

[Takamura-San]

This is very sad.

The system deserves better.

And is not like the community will pressure activision for more content.

 

[spannicus]

Funny that Yoshida has nothing to say about this game at all lol

 

[Takao]

Funny that Yoshida has nothing to say about this game at all lol

What would he say? He works at first party, and this is not a first party game.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

But I thought vita needed ORIGINAL/SEPARATE games. Now everyone wants ports again?

I guess than a port is better than a rushjob with barely sp content and MP with 8 max players...

 

[iammeiam]

I think found out who the developer was at Gamescom.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486892

That's when it was finally confirmed, but it was rumored before then--IIRC, it started with some random internet blog comment from a guy who said his cousin worked at Nihilistic and was working on it. At the time there was a lot of disbelief because it was the Vita's premier holiday title, and Activision's biggest IP, so what the fuck would Nihilistic be doing anywhere near it?

Then Gamescom came, bringing confirmation of Nihilistic.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

metacritic user scores lol

how is this different from all metacritic user reviews? that thing is a cesspit.

 

[Mileena]

The fuck?

"dis gaym is gud." -oMILLERoTIMEo, 2012

 

[Femmeworth]

Pathetic, Sony what are you doing?

 

[kSt]

Meanwhile there's still not enough reviews to make a metascore.
You can't have bad MC score if you don't send review copies, all according to keikaku,

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I would imagine that since it is Activision's IP, they're the first ones that people need to be blaming!

Why?

This whole scenario goes one of wo ways according to Activision.

1. Sony foots the bill to get Call of Duty on their portable machine

2. Activision does nothing.


Activision doesn't HAVE to give Vita anything and it's obvious that if it were up to them they woldn't bother with it at all. This is completely on Sony, in more ways than one.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Too bad they couldn't just port the ps3 version.

The smart thing wouldd have been to port COD4.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Amazing what Treyarch accomplished with CoD3 if that's true.

Game still sucked.

 

[Currygan]

all spent in tweeting "no, sorry"

 

[Chris_C]

It's no surprise Nihilistic left traditional development, re-branded themselves, and went to iOS. Being forced to make a Call of Duty game in 5 months... the pressure was probably insane

Can we have more time?
No, sorry.

What's all this sympathy for the developer? It's not like they couldn't have decided NOT to make the game. They should be held just as accountable as the publisher.

And miss the holiday shopping season?

Don't you think this is just a teenie weenie bit conspiracy theorist? I don't think the people at Nihilistic even believe they made a great game here.

As someone who works in marketing (albeit not videogames) I can tell you it isn't.

 

[grimshawish]

I think the people praising it are going to find the pain of not knowing what to do with it beyond this week.

Nihilistic DID try though, does sound like it was almost planned yo be vaporware though but then rushed into production for the holiday most likely pushed by Sony.

What's nihi's new name, I actually want to keep an eye on them. What doesn't kill you can only make you stronger.

 

[metalslimer]

It's amazing how Declassified basically personifies everything that went wrong with Vita since launch.

 

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Why didn't they just get sledgehammer to just port black ops 2 multiplayer to vita and just add in some exclusive vita mini campaign and call it a day.

 

[Kazerei]

That's when it was finally confirmed, but it was rumored before then--IIRC, it started with some random internet blog comment from a guy who said his cousin worked at Nihilistic and was working on it. At the time there was a lot of disbelief because it was the Vita's premier holiday title, and Activision's biggest IP, so what the fuck would Nihilistic be doing anywhere near it?

Then Gamescom came, bringing confirmation of Nihilistic.

Sorry, I kind of skimmed your post the first time :S

The rumor surfaced in June. See posts #211 and #260 ... and the reactions :lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479117