Triggerhappytel
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Bullshit. After investing so much in Kinect, MS aren't going to make it optional and have most developers abandon it entirely. It'll just flounder and fail if they don't keep it mandatory.
Stop wishing for Xbone without Kinect, MS views it as integral as the controllers at this point.
Shouldn't someone post a thread about the new indie info from cboat?
Pretty big info if you ask me.
can you link me?
yuh
.INDYianaJONESTHAPOOR wil graci8uos alloowd tpoo publishjthru the Wni8 store geto
butBUT
wait4it
limted to 3gigs mem,nt full. sory!
comnce to yeling atme, xbotz
Indies allowed to self-publish if they use less than 3GB and only through the Windows 8 store ghetto.
This:
If the limit of 3Gigs for indies were indeed in the OS partition, then the OS would have to be reduced to a minimum while playing such indies since it wouldn't have memory for much of it. Doesn't make sense.
Not to mention that that would limit how much the indies can do regarding graphics and stuff because as I understand it (someone correct me if I'm wrong), the apps in the OS part have limited access to the GPU and CPU resources by design.
Nah he said "3GB, not full"Maybe Cboat meant 3Gigs of game size, not Ram allowed.
Maybe Cboat meant 3Gigs of game size, not Ram allowed.
Maybe Cboat meant 3Gigs of game size, not Ram allowed.
if what he says is true than i believe thats good news. Self publishing start, these memory restrictions have a way of increasing over time, correct me if mistaken but XBLA games used to have a 50 mb restriction or something to that effect and eventually got bigger with time.
if what he says is true than i believe thats good news. Self publishing start, these memory restrictions have a way of increasing over time, correct me if mistaken but XBLA games used to have a 50 mb restriction or something to that effect and eventually got bigger with time.
The indie stuff sounds good to me, did cboat say anything about the kinect-less system being true?
The indie stuff sounds good to me, did cboat say anything about the kinect-less system being true?
edit: saw the update
It's still a restriction. There are better alternatives out there.
yuh
.INDYianaJONESTHAPOOR wil graci8uos alloowd tpoo publishjthru the Wni8 store geto
butBUT
wait4it
limted to 3gigs mem,nt full. sory!
comnce to yeling atme, xbotz
Indeed. It's not like indie games are all just 2D sidescrollers anymore that can run on a mobile phone.
Most indie games releasing right now use the available hardware to the fullest, and a 3GB restriction would be very disappointing if the competition is offering 7gigs of super fast RAM to play with.
If this is only in regards to self publishing, then I don't think it's as bad as it seemed, certainly doesn't sound as good as what the PS4 has, but much better than what we thought we'd be getting on the Xbox One.
I will just ask this: Why are you talking as this was bad news?
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Because it is?
Look at the competition and at what they are doing, this looks ridiculous in comparison.
CBOAT droppin dem bommen. Shit, and I thought MS finally followed Ninty's and Sony's lead..
3 GB Memory for XBONE indie games <<< 5 GB Memory for XBONE regular games
3 GB Memory for XBONE indie games <<<< Potentially 7 GB Memory for PS4 indie games
Hmm I'm not agreeing with the policy and I'm certainly not a game dev but given the difference in graphical quality between high end aaa titles like tlou and indie games I'm sure optimizing the code could def cut down on ram usage significantly .... But eh Im not a game dev and as a programmer not being forced to optimize my ass off is def a plus.
No, it's not. How is not needing a dev kit, using your own console to debug, and unlike XBLIG self published games now get access to xbox live and their features like achievements ridiculous?
Doesn't really make sense considering how integral it's tied into the OS and whatnot. That and they'd piss off the developers who are expecting it to be included.
And the people who hate the Xbone already won't be swayed much by a Kinect-less Xbone, so it's not like removing it would change anything.
I refuse to accept that MS are this stupid a company.
This is something they simply cannot backtrack on. It will destroy the foundations of the console, waste resources, split userbase and fuck over early adopters.
No, this will not happen.
No, it's not. How is not needing a dev kit, using your own console to debug, and unlike XBLIG self published games now get access to xbox live and their features like achievements ridiculous?
3 GB Memory for XBONE indie games <<<< 5 GB Memory for XBONE regular games
3 GB Memory for XBONE indie games <<<< Potentially 7 GB Memory for PS4 indie games
Yeah, because all those indies that don't have publishing deals are sure going to push both machines to their knees with their AAA graphics.
Of course, more is better than less when it comes to memory, but that is about as moot as a point can be considering the target developers.
Again, look at the competition and tell me which approach is better.No, it's not. How is not needing a dev kit, using your own console to debug, and unlike XBLIG self published games now get access to xbox live and their features like achievements ridiculous?
Where does it say Indies have access to XBL and features like Achievements?
Because the games will be stuck in a ghetto and will not sell. Nobody will bother with it six months after launch.
fckn lool