-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
[RUMOR] Marvel vs Capcom Infinite roster leaked
- Thread starter BassForever
- Start date
shaowebb
Member
Agreed. Jedah, Huitzil/Phobos, or Q. Bee were my top hopefuls. Phobos at the top but hey Jedah is a damned fine guy if he's in. So glad its not just Morri/Licia again. Wish Hsien Ko had been done justice in MVC3. Hopefully Jedah fairs better.
Also Agreed. Most of it is "thats alright I guess" tier additions, but no real name draws that people genuinely get excited for.
The only saving grace for this default roster would be if they finally buffed the mainstays that have long been of middling effectiveness (Ryu, Chun) into being rather good on point. Give Ryu diagonal/horizontal air-fireballs and Ken's glitched air Tatsu, give Chun lows cancelled into unpunishable Serentsu again; whatever it takes.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
I remember Nemesis brought the hype when this was in his trailer
The problem isn't that Nemesis is in the game, is that Nemesis made it and Wesker didn't.
What did he mean by this?
Member
Panther BARRAGE!!!!!
It was that simple
I got no love for the tryhard trenchcoat bros Weskil and Verger -- but I wont rejoice in dissapointed fans!
It was that simple
I got no love for the tryhard trenchcoat bros Weskil and Verger -- but I wont rejoice in dissapointed fans!
i think the idea is that no one would buy nemesis as dlc
but everyone would buy wesker as dlc
holding back characters to release them piece meal as dlc
pure evil
MillionVolts
Member
Well, there is that, but I also think some of SFV's launch roster thought process bled into this game's a bit, at least for the Capcom side. Namely, gameplay variety taking precedence over popularity.
For SFV it led them to decide "No shotos besides Ryu and Ken" despite Sagat/Akuma/Sakura having tons of fans. For this game, we get Nemesis over Wesker because I'm guessing they looked at the latter and said "We already have Strider (and to a lesser extent Dante) for a teleporter."
I don't know what you are talking about. He is ridiculously popular that is why he is included in games, he is in tekken for a reason.
I didn't really like his mvc3 iteration though, felt boring to play and watch unless you were watching a jwong comeback.
There's no question Capcom has approached this game with a budget mentality. The only reason they would launch with Nemesis, Arthur, Firebrand, and Spencer in the initial lineup is to recycle more from the past game (and that three of those would be minimal sellers as DLC).
Recicle more than ! Batsu, Zero, Haggar, Iron Fist, Ammy, Phoenix, Viewtfull Joe, Akuma, Mysterio with Magneto moveset
sixteen-bit
Member
Jedah would be the only hype inclusion for me.
Even in UMvC3, Phoenix Wright is an incredible character. Balance issues aside, he is intricately designed to evoke the feeling of Ace Attorney. Three distinct modes which perfectly convey the "Investigation," "Courtroom," and "Turnabout" sequences of the games, in a fighting game. A very unique and fun character, and that's what fighting games need more of. Not the usual straightforward stuff.
All that would be needed would be to refine him and make him actually competitive. Properly tune the "starts weak with a steep hill to climb, becomes a force of nature once he collects everything he needs."
Then, again, there's the fact that Ace Attorney is one of Capcom's only relevant series that is still getting new games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbv5AJDh9o8
It really feels weird without them.
They're fun games with old school followings and there are indie games based off the series doing well. I'm not sure why giving customers what they want is such a dumb strategy if they have good ideas for it.
Which of those series were actually popular at some point? Onimusha?
Honestly I think the reason you're so opposed to this is because it's not a series you like rather than it actually being a bad business decision. I can see an argument for Onimusha, the rest never seemed to do that well and Capcom is having a hard enough time keeping SF and Marvel going, C list fighters like Darkstalkers and Rival Schools don't have much of a chance in today's market despite my liking RS quite a bit.
Scrooge is a Marvel character now.
You can unlock Jill and Shuma Gorath in MvC3
by buying DLC
It was released too quickly for most, but it had a lot of juice in it's upgrades.
They could have easily replaced any character in the game with a female character though.
Yeah, I like both characters but honestly I'd have been fine with paying for them as DLC and getting a new character or 2 on the starting roster.
Is Ms. Marvel really that popular? Black Panther I thought was a likely choice (Not definite but about as likely as Dr. Strange or Daredevil) but Marvel seemed unlikely or even a long shot. Maybe she's a lot more popular than I realize though. Maybe Black Panther is more popular than I realize too, he was pretty cool in Civil War and the couple of appearances I've seen in comics.
I guess it really depends on what sort of criteria you're looking at. He represented PW well but he didn't fit into the game very well, although the knee jerk nerf right off the bat probably didn't help. I'm not opposed to him appearing but I'd want him to get a significant rework or a lot least a decent return to get him to fit the game better if he was coming back.
Jawmuncher
Member
That is true. But off the top of my head firebrand was kind of the sticking out character who wasn't in any polling and such before hand.
Orochinagis
Member
Eeww villains are not existant if that roster is true
There's really no reason to think the leak isn't legitimate considering the track record of the source.
Again, I wish it wasn't though.
This post should just be added to the top of the OP at this point lol. Everybody wants it to be debunked but remembers how reliable to source(s) are.
DaytimeWhiskey
Banned
Did Jill and/Shuma sell even moderately well as DLC for MvC3? This is probably (at least partially) why they are keeping all the fan favorites behind a pay wall and giving us a lackluster launch roster. They tried it the other way around last time and nobody shelled out for the extra characters, they aren't gonna make that same "mistake" twice
Maybe it's not the full launch roster.. maybe.... right guys... maybe....
Maybe... Soon...
Reverend Funk
Comfy Penetration
Maybe they leaked this as a fake roster on purpose so the real roster would be more hype.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Ms. Marvel is the most popular new Marvel character for a new generation of readers.
direct_quote
Member
Don't do this to yourselves...
DR2K
Banned
That would be very interesting if they circulated a fake roster list knowing everyone was going to hate it then reveal the real list with characters everyone loves.
Capcom isn't that interesting though, neither is Marvel with their garbage X-Men ban.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Jedah is one of the only characters in that roster i'm seeing people are OK with it.
Watch him being trash tier at launch.
Still can't believe they didn't have a single Cole that can change sides.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Hell, her own book outsells Carol's . Fuck Carol I rather have Kamala .
Jawmuncher
Member
The curse would be complete. "These newcomers looks good" all low tier.
The chose to reboot one of their best franchises is what you meant to say.
Too bad the concept of the reboot sounds absolutely stupid.
Felicia can sit this one out. Let Q-Bee or BB Hood have a turn
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 purple blood incoming.
It seems mostly focused on the MCU and unless I'm mistaken neither of them have been introduced to it yet.
Dark Ninja
Member
Capcom probably don't want to catch more shit for their female characters. Morrigan is borderline unless she gets her other outfits through DLC Skins.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Darkstalkers 3 was also T rated.
Some of these choices just make no fucking sense on the Capcom side. Nemesis instead of Wesker? Really?
There's a difference between seeing it with pixels and seeing it with 3D models.
capcom is lazy and will sell her dlc. dont think or put a lot of thoughts to it.
they cut bunch of umvc3 veterans cause they would have to make a few new moves or new theme songs for them.
lol
Dark Ninja
Member
Which is weird because one of the problems people have with SFV DLC characters is they are changing too much and not re-using old characters or moves. Ibuki SFV is a completely different character than 3s or 4 Ibuki. I like the DLC support for SFV btw haven't had a problem with their output compared to other games they are getting a good amount of content out.
At this point, this game better the deepest and hypest fighting game around in terms of gameplay once it comes out for me to even consider it.
Going off the info released a month ago, it's looking promising but going off the wacky updates done to SFV over the last year, man...
Going off the info released a month ago, it's looking promising but going off the wacky updates done to SFV over the last year, man...