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[RUMOUR] GTA Single player DLC has been replaced with online map expansions model.
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ScientificPizza
Banned
This all very much sounds like wishful thinking. I'm not going to believe this until an official announcement.
Also no one should have expected SP DLC. Rockstar said it wasn't happening
Also no one should have expected SP DLC. Rockstar said it wasn't happening
I love these "There is no alternative" points some are trying to make to explain that everything is natural and couldn't be something else because "it's the way it is for a business yu kno"
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
boooooo
Noisepurge
Member
Online only!
GTAO needs a serious overhaul if this is true, everything takes way too long, it's fiddly to do things, in my opinion it just doesn't work as well as it should in its current state for something they want to support for another 3 years.
I would happily buy an full priced expansion, but only if it came with a single player part. Making liberty city and these other ones from previous games feels pointless to me without a single player part. They have three great characters, bring the voice actors back and throw some missions together.
I would happily buy an full priced expansion, but only if it came with a single player part. Making liberty city and these other ones from previous games feels pointless to me without a single player part. They have three great characters, bring the voice actors back and throw some missions together.
I sometimes find that a more vocal base of people on Gaf don't really go in for MP games like this. They require some imagination and a willingness to socialise
You may be onto something
IgotElbows
Member
If this is true. I don't understand.
1. WHY make the "Expansion"/dlc so late? Like last year woulda made sense, even this year would make sense. But next year? Seems just so odd and so late.
2. WHYYY would there be an expansion/dlc in 2018, after RDR2 is out? I guess PC users will like it, but console players might be on RDR2 only at that point.
It just seems like such a weird move.
1. WHY make the "Expansion"/dlc so late? Like last year woulda made sense, even this year would make sense. But next year? Seems just so odd and so late.
2. WHYYY would there be an expansion/dlc in 2018, after RDR2 is out? I guess PC users will like it, but console players might be on RDR2 only at that point.
It just seems like such a weird move.
keltickennedy
Member
It's not like this is out of the blue. People are playing GTA Online. A lot of people. Rockstar continues to support it because of that. Why does Blizzard continue to support their old games? Is that strange?
It would be weird if they announced Max Payne 3 multiplayer DLC or something. lol.
And I am not worried about RDR 2 at all. With the money Rockstar is making, both the Single Player and Online portions will be amazing. GTA Online's success probably gave them even more time to work on it.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Indie games will of course always offer single player experiences, but just don't expect it to be a AAA big budget experience.
LordBaztion
Member
file it in the S of Shocking and Shit
Its a smart move financially. If GTA Online still brings in so much money, and there is lots of people who spent more than $500... Why alienate it with a new GTA? All those who already own it can be tried to "suckered" back into it with new gameplay and modes for the online in the new locations. Plus the many who still play it. Plus more ps3/360 converts who will make the move to ps4/x1. And rock star always said GTA Online is an ongoing thing. They always said they will bring more cities and connect them.
All their devs were working on something the last years and it was more cities. It all makes perfect sense. Maybe they thought of a GTA 6 but it could never break the GTA 5 records anyways since the install base isn't there yet.
I was already surprised at the last online additions. They were quite huge. Like those stunt races. It was already hinting at them not being done yet.
And I say all that not even being a huge GTA Online fan as I don't find it too fun getting randomly shot in open lobbies and I have no interest right now to play with a mic and make online friends. And playing a heist with randoms can get tiresome with too many loading timed, menus and aborts. But I can fully understand it business wise and I sure will check out the new locations, especially if they are also available offline.
All their devs were working on something the last years and it was more cities. It all makes perfect sense. Maybe they thought of a GTA 6 but it could never break the GTA 5 records anyways since the install base isn't there yet.
I was already surprised at the last online additions. They were quite huge. Like those stunt races. It was already hinting at them not being done yet.
And I say all that not even being a huge GTA Online fan as I don't find it too fun getting randomly shot in open lobbies and I have no interest right now to play with a mic and make online friends. And playing a heist with randoms can get tiresome with too many loading timed, menus and aborts. But I can fully understand it business wise and I sure will check out the new locations, especially if they are also available offline.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
This is old and with the announcement of Redemption 2 coming in the Fall there's no way in hell they're releasing such a major update at around the same time for GTA Online.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Nah. Gtav is still selling really well. To the point that last i looked it was still 40$ used, 2 years after release(next gen).
RdR sold, and reveiwed well, but no where near the levels of Gtav. Besides gamers can buy mutiple games, and R* can support mutiple games. Plus Rdr2 might get delayed.
Rockstar has always said they envisioned growing GTA:Online. They have always said it didn't have to be one city. The only official wrinkle is a Rockstar boss saying GTAO support would end to rest the franchise.
https://gamerant.com/grand-theft-auto-online-franchise-rest/
That said, how many months THIS YEAR was GTAV the top selling game of the month? On PS4/XBO alone there are likely tens of millions of copies in the wild. People continue to play. It only makes sense to support that.
GTA:Online is a great online experience that for years has received many free dlc that completely transform the game experience. After the Finance and Felony/Biker updates you don't even need to leave freeroam to make tons of money. There is always something you could be doing in freemode to make a little scratch. And if you enjoy playing the game you will make tons of money and not need to worry about buying a shark card
https://gamerant.com/grand-theft-auto-online-franchise-rest/
That said, how many months THIS YEAR was GTAV the top selling game of the month? On PS4/XBO alone there are likely tens of millions of copies in the wild. People continue to play. It only makes sense to support that.
GTA:Online is a great online experience that for years has received many free dlc that completely transform the game experience. After the Finance and Felony/Biker updates you don't even need to leave freeroam to make tons of money. There is always something you could be doing in freemode to make a little scratch. And if you enjoy playing the game you will make tons of money and not need to worry about buying a shark card
SoulUnison
Banned
I wouldn't really have a problem with GTAOnline if the game wasn't 40% loading screens and lobbies that disband before/halfway through a mission.
They've split their audience across a million different activities, so there's never enough people playing any specific one, unless it's one of the handful of missions that the community grinds over and over and over again because there's simply no better way to make money.
I still can't believe that after all the promotion and delaying of Heists they just threw 4 of them in the game and basically walked away going: "Ok, that's good forever."
They've split their audience across a million different activities, so there's never enough people playing any specific one, unless it's one of the handful of missions that the community grinds over and over and over again because there's simply no better way to make money.
I still can't believe that after all the promotion and delaying of Heists they just threw 4 of them in the game and basically walked away going: "Ok, that's good forever."
OdysseusVA
Banned
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ComputerBlue
Member
At this point. I'm over the idea of getting a SP expansion for GTA5. If they do bring LC to GTAO, then I hope they bring music from GTA4 over. Jazz Nation Radio and The Journey.
EstoyBlackWaldo
Member
I totally agree with you here. I'd be fine with this if true, but features need to be more open, if they want GTAO to prosper they need a much more interactive world not just missions and cars and mansions and cars and missions and adversary modes and Simeon.
We need features, the little things, more stores, more things to buy, home burglaries, pawn shops, more sports, being able to sit down on a beach bench, seasons, maybe talk to NPC's, legal occupations as a front/launder.
There is so much they could do, to make GTAO an entire on going metropolis. I know this is all wishful thinking though. The best part about online worlds, are the little things, the little features.
Basically the sims but GTA.
notjackbauer
Member
I absolutely do not believe this. The idea that they designed San Fierro and Las Venturas alongside Los Santos is just ludicrous to me. No way.
Serious Sam
Member
As someone who played almost every popular MMO and every popular online game in the last 15 years and completely burned out from it all - NO, I will not leave my cozy story driven single player anti-social bubble.
keltickennedy
Member
I'm still not understanding this comparison. Rockstar is going to create their own digital service? Rockstar is going to go into VR? People are just pissed there still isn't a HL3?
Rockstar just announced RDR2. It seems like they are still specifically making games. I can guarantee you there will be another GTA game down the line as well.
Raptomex
Member
This post seems very ignorant if I'm reading it correctly. As someone who never plays a game for its multiplayer content, how is this good news? Why should I have to rely on other people for my enjoyment? What happens to an always online game in 20 years when the servers die/retire/whatever and I want to play it then? Looking at you, Diablo 3.
QuantumSquid
Member
I love GTA Online so I'm excited to see what these new areas will look like. It's gotten kinda boring exploring the same city for the past 3 years.
I believe the single player dlc especially for RDR never sold that much in the first place. And I loved the GTA4 and RDR DLCs.
eso76
Member
More like nightmare scenario.
Agree with this.
It's still the same with the depositing money but people don't give a shit about free roam players dropping cash on death. You can earn that with less struggle and time in these missions.
The drop in drop out nature of free roam/missions is great. Especially now it's more missions. The racing stuff alone is worth it.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Super disappointing but not unsurprising considering how much money they have made from the Online portion.
As Nirolak speculated in a previous thread that I cannot find right now, the project management might have something to do with the lack of singleplayer DLC, i.e. that Rockstar North lacks The Benz's talent (along with other key people who left after GTAV).
Rhazer Fusion
Member
That sucks.
I would love the idea of Michael, Trevor and Franklin, doing a heist as a zombie outbreak kicks off. And them having to escape the city.
Seriously. Tied with Minerva's Den for me.
Those two lead my expectations on Single Player DLC.
TheStruggler
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PhantomVash808
Member
Noooooooooooo
brokenbeans
Banned
You guys are still giving this fuel?
EchoChamber
Member
I enjoyed a lot gta iv multiplayer but I hated the Shit out of gta online is fucking impossible to enjoy the game alone.
Damn, that would be the best heist ever.