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Sandy Hook 'Truther' Tells Victim's Mother Her Daughter Never Existed
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I think it's more a matter of echo chambers and positive reinforcement. These people are so conditioned to their view of the world that if something comes along as a threat to it (school shootings caused by access to guns in this case) they attack it like an antibody and come up with any way to justify it (it didn't happen!) Then you get a bunch of these people talking to each other and they form a nucleus of "we all believe this so we're validated in our belief!" protectionism.
I think it's a bit different than some other conspiracy theorists, where psychologists say the disbelief in the official story has to do with being unable to comprehend that things can "just happen"—that a single person could kill JFK, that a few terrorists could kill thousands, etc. Plenty of overlap though. Many of the 9/11 conspiracies pretty much treat the people on the planes as never existing, because they're so focused on cruise missiles or controlled demolitions.
People are lazy, even the irrationally paranoid.
sixteen-bit
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what a shit lord
How did you get any of that from my post? "Truther," in this case, refers to the people who believe Sandy Hook was made-up by the government. None of this has to do with 9/11.
OverlordSteph
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Theres a special place in hell people who do such things.
Off-Kilter
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This legitimately ruined my day.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
Cloud Strife
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Where is the benefit to believing it was an inside job? If that were possible, what the fuck you be able to do about it?
Idiots. Condolences to the family, stupidity and general assholeishness about people's grievances can know no bounds it seems.
Idiots. Condolences to the family, stupidity and general assholeishness about people's grievances can know no bounds it seems.
PepsimanVsJoe
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No words.
I wouldn't be able to keep my composure around shitfucks like them. At the very least I'd be calling them out every second.
I wouldn't be able to keep my composure around shitfucks like them. At the very least I'd be calling them out every second.
UtterlyPerplexed
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Why do we dignify these people by referring to them as "truthers"? More like dipshit fucks who are a pestilence in society.
Is this what happens when you go even further than Alex Jones in the retarded everything-is-a-conspiracy schtick? At least with Jones, he's kind of hilarious with his New World Order crap, but these people are loathsome beyond description.
If I were a parent of one of the murdered children and someone said this to me - especially in person, in my face, rather than on the phone - I don't know how I would be able to keep myself composed. I would probably deck them without hesitation, damn the consequences.
Is this what happens when you go even further than Alex Jones in the retarded everything-is-a-conspiracy schtick? At least with Jones, he's kind of hilarious with his New World Order crap, but these people are loathsome beyond description.
If I were a parent of one of the murdered children and someone said this to me - especially in person, in my face, rather than on the phone - I don't know how I would be able to keep myself composed. I would probably deck them without hesitation, damn the consequences.
Omegasquash
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Fucking...false flag folks are just disgusting. I knew one of those (same person I've mentioned before). He claimed that the Aurora shootings were a false flag because the shooter looked like he was on drugs, and that he was a government plant.
And he wasn't kidding. He actually believed it.
People like this are vile, and they deserve to be ridiculed and shamed for their selfish beliefs.
And he wasn't kidding. He actually believed it.
People like this are vile, and they deserve to be ridiculed and shamed for their selfish beliefs.
I associate Alex Jones with insane libertarianism, not with the conventional right-wing ala the Republican party or mainstream conservative press, eg:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/15/a-conspiracy-culture/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/15/a-conspiracy-culture/
brotherbean
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Hey, believe what you want about whatever you want, but keep it under your fucking hat. No one, especially those personally involved with this tragedy, cares about your stupid opinion on things.
styl3s
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I had a friend who had this whole ridiculous theory about how him and the theater shooting were both carried out by government plants. He always had these insane theories and always put infowars pamphlets and shit everywhere and when loose change came out he burnt about 150 copies of it and placed them all over town so people could open their eyes.
I never truly saw the madness in him until he started going on about how they were plants and the whole school shooting was a government sanctioned event to further push along anti-gun agendas and shit.
It wouldn't change their minds. They already believe the entire thing was a hoax, the people were either actors or don't exist at all. Any photos would be dismissed as "fake."
Omegasquash
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Ah yes..."open your eyes". The hypocrisy is so strong that you could hit them upside the head with it.
Blargonaut
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That idiot needs pain.
Omegasquash
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While resorting to violence isn't something I'm a fan of, I gotta say I'm with Buzz on this one. Not saying it's what he deserved, but he had it coming. I'd say the same of the Sandy Hook "truthers".
Nintendoga
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What a fucking idiot.
TheJollyCorner
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I get angry just thinking about it.
BruiserBear
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What a gross story.
To the OP: Right wing media? Really? I think you're confusing different groups here. There are lots of idiots that create lots of dumb theories about all sorts of big news events. Just because this story involves guns, which led to talk of gun legislation, doesn't mean the conspiracies are born out of right wing media discussing that story.
What an absolute shit post. People had conspiracy theories about this shooting the day after it happened. "How could one guy kill that many kids by himself?" I remember seeing that shit almost immediately. It had nothing to do with right wing media. People cook up these kinds of ridiculous bullshit theories anytime a huge awful event occurs, because they've got nothing better to do, and their brains can't process one person could be so awful to do all of that on their own. Similar to the 9/11 theories, which played on the idea that "18 guys couldn't have done all that by themselves". When people can't make sense of something, they try and make it into something bigger, something grander.
To the OP: Right wing media? Really? I think you're confusing different groups here. There are lots of idiots that create lots of dumb theories about all sorts of big news events. Just because this story involves guns, which led to talk of gun legislation, doesn't mean the conspiracies are born out of right wing media discussing that story.
What an absolute shit post. People had conspiracy theories about this shooting the day after it happened. "How could one guy kill that many kids by himself?" I remember seeing that shit almost immediately. It had nothing to do with right wing media. People cook up these kinds of ridiculous bullshit theories anytime a huge awful event occurs, because they've got nothing better to do, and their brains can't process one person could be so awful to do all of that on their own. Similar to the 9/11 theories, which played on the idea that "18 guys couldn't have done all that by themselves". When people can't make sense of something, they try and make it into something bigger, something grander.
BinaryPork2737
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That's some of the stupidest bullshit I've ever heard. It's bad enough the sign was stolen, but to tell that to the woman? What an asshole.
If I were that girl's parent I'd do the world a favor and beat the shit out of that guy.
Its a false flag operation by Obungler to take guns from patriots and give them to jihadists.
Omegasquash
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Because you have nothing better to do with your life than agitate and irritate those that are hurt and grieving. Which you can also read as "scum."
Gun control conspiracies. While I doubt any serious right wing media scumbag would be dumb enough to promote this particular garbage on their Fox News show, gun control conspiracy nonsense is a major feature with their base, and other conspiracy bullshit is actively promoted by the mainstream right wing.
While resorting to violence isn't something I'm a fan of, I gotta say I'm with Buzz on this one. Not saying it's what he deserved, but he had it coming. I'd say the same of the Sandy Hook "truthers".
To this day, that video of Aldrin cold-cocking that moron in the jaw is one of my favorite videos on the internet. It's like he was releasing the collective frustration of everyone who worked on the Apollo missions in one geriatric sucker punch.
No one tell you to read GAF
I see there are also some nuts in this thread that have issues with seeing things that aren't there. I never said that the media are the ones who created the conspiracy, I was saying that the anti gun control agenda that they were pushing is exactly what the truthers were feeding on, since it fit there own agenda.
RoyaleDuke
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Unfuckingbelievable, I can't believe that there are people that actually believe that shit was a hoax or a government job or whatever those crackpot crazies come up with.
This shit makes my blood boil and sometimes makes me ashamed to be a gun owner.
This shit makes my blood boil and sometimes makes me ashamed to be a gun owner.
Note to OP: I know hating on right-wingers is accepted on this forum, but the vast majority of them don't think that Sandy Hook was an inside job and the vast majority of right wing news organizations don't suggest this either.
There are going to be fringe groups who will believe crazy things; let's not pin this on the right.
There are going to be fringe groups who will believe crazy things; let's not pin this on the right.
Dr. Giggles
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People can be so cruel. What a jerk.
ElRenoRaven
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Yea. There are enough reasons to dislike the right. This isn't one of them. Truthers are a deeply insane breed. There are truthers for everything anymore. It's kind of sad really.
Right. The right wing has pushed a number of conspiracy theories around Obama: the birth certificate, Benghazi, etc. But I don't think they've really touched this one. I think Glenn Beck actually had an episode debunking the conspiracy theories around Sandy Hook.
Mr.Awesome
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No, blaming rightwing media for what nut jobs think here is flat out hilarious. As terrible as American media is, none of the cable channels or major news sources are promoting the fake Sandy Hook story. That's nut jobs coming up with it themselves.
BruiserBear
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If the conspiracy theorists decided to latch onto that right wing media talking about gun control that doesn't make the right wing media an accessory to the theories. It's just the idiots finding anything to latch onto for their theory, which is what they always do.
Mammoth Jones
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My wife's little cousin was at the school when it happened. Considering how frantic her parents were I can assure these nut jobs it happened.
figadapaura
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Disgusting. Why would anyone say this?
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