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Satya Nadella is Microsoft's new CEO

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Nightengale

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BocoDragon said:
I hate to make light of the ethnicity, but it's yet another benchmark of our increasingly smaller, globalized world. Sign of the times.
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There's many capable Indians holding top post in many industries. It's particularly notable in Google too.

Amit Singhal, Sundar Pichai,Vivek Gundotra. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of them be CEOs in any of the leading technology companies in the next 5 years.
 
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infinityBCRT

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Tekkie said:
I haven't missed that part, but I don't agree with your premise of Gates being entirely against cutting it off. Times change and if the numbers aren't there to support a vision of a viable enough future for their console business, I can't really see him standing in the way.

Having said that, I don't think it'll be likely that the Xbone will do THAT bad.
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The Xbox One is literally everything Gates wanted when they bought Web TV and when they launched the original Xbox.
 
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Dabanton

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Stumpokapow said:
"Ruthlessly remove obstacles... focus on things Microsoft can uniquely do."

Want to bump shares up? Sell or shut down Bing. It's a money pit. It's losing massive amounts of money. It hasn't broke through strategically. What market share it has is bought, paid for, and not loyal. And no one outside Microsoft seems to understand any kind of synergy or whatever that it's supposedly offering.
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On the other hand it's the best browser for porn. MS should try and capitalize on that more. :p
 
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Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
Stumpokapow said:
"Ruthlessly remove obstacles... focus on things Microsoft can uniquely do."

Want to bump shares up? Sell or shut down Bing. It's a money pit. It's losing massive amounts of money. It hasn't broke through strategically. What market share it has is bought, paid for, and not loyal. And no one outside Microsoft seems to understand any kind of synergy or whatever that it's supposedly offering.
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I really hope they don't shut down Bing, without Bing who would compete with Google? We need more search engines not less.
 
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justsomeguy

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Stumpokapow said:
"Ruthlessly remove obstacles... focus on things Microsoft can uniquely do."

Want to bump shares up? Sell or shut down Bing. It's a money pit. It's losing massive amounts of money. It hasn't broke through strategically. What market share it has is bought, paid for, and not loyal. And no one outside Microsoft seems to understand any kind of synergy or whatever that it's supposedly offering.
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Who would buy it, though? Yahoo!? That would be ironic.
 
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Nightengale

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watership said:
And although many thought they should have made android phone... look at the #2 Android phone manufacturer, HTC. Profits shrinking, in the red, and they make better quality phone hardware than Samsung. It was no guarantee of success.
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#2 is Sony now, and they've been growing & doing well in their mobile division in the past few years after they cut off Ericsson from the mix.

HTC has a lot of drama, and internal problems that contributed to its fall-from-grace. It's not as simple as it looks.
 
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tickling

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Really worried about the Xbox now that elop is the masterchief (sorry). Elop at Nokia was brought in to basically sell it he wanted to kill Xbox and now he's charge. The warning signs are there
 
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10k

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Elop selling Xbox? Nintendo wanting to merge with companies? The Nintendo Xbox featuring Halo with Mario underneath the spartan armour? :p

I don't think Xbox is going anywhere while Gates is around.
 
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Stumpokapow said:
"Ruthlessly remove obstacles... focus on things Microsoft can uniquely do."

Want to bump shares up? Sell or shut down Bing. It's a money pit. It's losing massive amounts of money. It hasn't broke through strategically. What market share it has is bought, paid for, and not loyal. And no one outside Microsoft seems to understand any kind of synergy or whatever that it's supposedly offering.
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Nooo I like my free bing money
 
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Sydle

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tickling said:
Really worried about the Xbox now that elop is the masterchief (sorry). Elop at Nokia was brought in to basically sell it he wanted to kill Xbox and now he's charge. The warning signs are there
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Except his boss and Gates (now more involved) see the way forward as having an impact on people "getting stuff done" and "having fun" as important to the devices, services, and software future of the company. Given Nadella's focus on mobile and cloud it's not hard to imagine the Xbox ecosystem going device agnostic over the next decade. If Elop can't make it work then Nadella will get rid of him and find someone else who is capable to make Microsoft meaningful in the entertainment industry.

Nokia made some amazing devices under Elop, so now that there is no chance of him being able to sell it he'll just have to make it work. Curious to see what happens with Windows Phone, Surface, Lumia, and Xbox going forward.
 
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JaggedSac

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Stumpokapow said:
"Ruthlessly remove obstacles... focus on things Microsoft can uniquely do."

Want to bump shares up? Sell or shut down Bing. It's a money pit. It's losing massive amounts of money. It hasn't broke through strategically. What market share it has is bought, paid for, and not loyal. And no one outside Microsoft seems to understand any kind of synergy or whatever that it's supposedly offering.
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Might be hard to do, Bing is part of their underlying infrastructure now in voice recognition, mapping, etc.
 
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twobear

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Nightengale said:
I'd rather Nokia died through Meego than they did with Lumia.

N9 is an unmatched beauty.
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Disagree

lumia920stock1_640_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg


all look better
 
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amardilo

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SPDIF said:
Satya Nadella: His first interview as CEO of Microsoft (Video)

The guy seems pretty excited about devices (i.e. Xbox), so I don't think people have much to worry about with regards to Microsoft potentially scrapping the business.
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In that video he mentions wanting to remove obstacles to innovation, then says they are the company that allows people to do more and he mentions words like create, play and fun.

That all sounds good if it can relate to the Xbox division. Realising games on the Xbox platform has in the past been reported as difficult and time consuming, so if he makes the entire company more focused on getting stuff done and less red tape then that could trickle down to the Xbox division. Also he mentioned play and fun and that is exactly what the Xbox can do.

Hopefully that means he doesn't want to shut down/sell/reduce the Xbox division and even better if he wants to put more focus and resources on it.

He also mentioned moving more to cloud and mobile. Guess that could also relate heavily with the Xbox division. Maybe more internal studios will make mobile games and they will focus on using more cloud resources and infrastructure for games.
 
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Nightengale

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Maximilian Kolbe said:
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=711700

Btw Elop already become devices division lead almost half year ago
Why this become news again anyway
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668269
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MS PR =/= someone from the Elop faction.

Whether or not the Bloomberg story is true or false is only known by the internal folks of MS that matter. They have the ability to verify whether or not Bloomberg's leak was fiction, or was it something that was actually leaked out from the Elop camp.

A rebuttal from PR means nothing in the context of 'candidate race to become CEO.' A ton of dirty politicking goes on the background to garner support.

And while Elop became devices lead, that was before Ballmer announced his retirement.

That means an opportunity for Elop to both return, and gain the top spot. If he fails, all that means that he only gets to be lead of devices instead of CEO.
 
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Mael

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Maximilian Kolbe said:
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=711700

Btw Elop already become devices division lead almost half year ago
Why this become news again anyway
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668269
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You can't make the difference between MS PR and Elop PR?
And regarding Elop's business at Nokia I'll quote someone else on Gaf :
bobbytkc said:
If Elop is the one who chose to exclusively make Windows phones, then yea, he is to blame. If not, well, then you have a point.
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Relaxed Muscle

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watership said:
Shhh it's all Elops fault. :)

Take a look at Nokia phones before and after Elop took over. Some of the best made phone in the industry, regardless about the OS they ran. And although many thought they should have made android phone... look at the #2 Android phone manufacturer, HTC. Profits shrinking, in the red, and they make better quality phone hardware than Samsung. It was no guarantee of success.
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Not since a while....
 
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Maximilian Kolbe

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Nightengale said:
MS PR =/= someone from the Elop faction.

Whether or not the Bloomberg story is true or false is only known by the internal folks of MS that matter. They have the ability to verify whether or not Bloomberg's leak was fiction, or was it something that was actually leaked out from the Elop camp.

A rebuttal from PR means nothing in the context of 'candidate race to become CEO.' A ton of dirty politicking goes on the background to garner support.

And while Elop became devices lead, that was before Ballmer announced his retirement.

That means an opportunity for Elop to both return, and gain the top spot. If he fails, all that means that he only gets to be lead of devices instead of CEO.
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Mael said:
You can't make the difference between MS PR and Elop PR?
And regarding Elop's business at Nokia I'll quote someone else on Gaf :


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So where is Elop PR?actual one
 
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NolbertoS

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I see this as the beginning of the end for Xbox. Elop may have experience, but its never good to have Nokia's failed CEO, trying to make the Xbox brand profitable. I foresee him putting little effort into his job and once xbox doesn't perform well in a financial quarter or two, try to tell shareholders he tried, but Sony is just beating them left and right in marketshare or something and have an excuse to finally close the Xbox.
 
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Ghost

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BoboBrazil

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Seems like a good choice for CEO, although it will be interesting to see what he brings to the table as CEO. He has been ingrained in the MS corporate culture for a long time, so he might not be able to see things from an outside perspective. Elop was handed the keys to a sinking ship in the moneypit aka hardware division. It will also see what Gates brings to the table as his heart didn't seem to be in technology anymore and more about philanthropy.
 
RoyalLaFlame

RoyalLaFlame

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NolbertoS said:
I see this as the beginning of the end for Xbox. Elop may have experience, but its never good to have Nokia's failed CEO, trying to make the Xbox brand profitable. I foresee him putting little effort into his job and once xbox doesn't perform well in a financial quarter or two, try to tell shareholders he tried, but Sony is just beating them left and right in marketshare or something and have an excuse to finally close the Xbox.
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What? The better Elop performs the better for him. Xbox is not Nokia people, Satya is in charge of MS not Elop.
 
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Nightengale

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Maximilian Kolbe said:
So where is Elop PR?actual one
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Did you bother to read my write-up? We don't know if it's true or not. However, it's futile to take MS PR's rebutall at face value.

Elop will never be caught openly stating that he plans to kill certain products/business units because there are negative repercussions internally. Let's not forget it'll probably destroy the jobs of more than several people.

This is political play, and the only source we've got is Bloomberg. Maybe it's true, maybe it's false, but this isn't some 3rd-rate news source reporting this... it's Bloomberg. It has value to be treated with more than a grain of salt.
 
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Mael

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Maximilian Kolbe said:
Already knew these "report"
That's why i need actual one,not "report" from Bloomberg
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You expect inside sources to go forward?
That's exactly why this was leaked that way.
Plausible denial although anyone with half a brain can see it for what it is : a hail marry to try to come back into the race of who's going to be CEO.
 
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daveo42

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This Elop news just means it'll be possible for Sega to get back into the console market if they wanted too.

Believe
 
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Maximilian Kolbe

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Mael said:
You expect inside sources to go forward?
That's exactly why this was leaked that way.
Plausible denial although anyone with half a brain can see it for what it is : a hail marry to try to come back into the race of who's going to be CEO.
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From what i see it's more like someone in MS don't want Elop become CEO so make this "PR"-it's not a bad thing actually

But still,where is Elop actual said he will/want/may kill Bing and Xbox?
 
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pukko

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Nightengale said:
Did you bother to read my write-up? We don't know if it's true or not. However, it's futile to take MS PR's rebutall at face value.

Elop will never be caught openly stating that he plans to kill certain products/business units because there are negative repercussions internally. Let's not forget it'll probably destroy the jobs of more than several people.

This is political play, and the only source we've got is Bloomberg. Maybe it's true, maybe it's false, but this isn't some 3rd-rate news source reporting this... it's Bloomberg. It has value to be treated with more than a grain of salt.
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Well, wasn't that more or less what Elop did when joining Nokia? Killing of all current mobile platforms, in public, before development even had started on any replacements.

Though, it was a different scenario then, as Xbox belongs to Microsoft, there is really no point in driving the division down to its knees. It is more likely that he'll polish it up to increase the value before selling it
to Nintendo
 
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Thrakier

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Nadella said:
I buy more books than I can finish. I sign up for more online courses than I can complete.
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So he has ADHD? That fits the XB1 story so far very well.

Just kidding, BUT...

...I'd like to see his steam backlog.
 
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Tripon

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Its good choice for a new CEO.

Elop taking over Hardware isn't that big of a deal in my mind. He's there to steer the Nokia purchase, he won't have time to really fuck up Xbox unless that's his singular goal. Phil Spector will be the point man on Xbox most likely.
 
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Ol No Bones

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Guy seems interesting. He has a great look for presentation purposes. He is everything balmer isn't. I think if Microsoft can truly focus on innovation again instead of just reacting to the market they can be a leader in tech. I really do like Microsoft's products. I'm sitting here on my Lumia 1520 typing this out before I go get my work done on my surface pro 2. I'm excited to see the future of a unified Microsoft vision.
 
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Mael

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Maximilian Kolbe said:
From what i see it's more like someone in MS don't want Elop become CEO so make this "PR"-it's not a bad thing actually

But still,where is Elop actual said he will/want/may kill Bing and Xbox?
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There's plenty of reasons why Elop wasn't the top candidate already if anything this PR would put him on the good grace of various shareholders wondering where their money went with Bing and Xbox.
Really it's more likely this was made to help him more than harm him.
And this is Elop we're talking about the guy who said all Non WP phones from Nokia are crap something like 7 to 8 months before Nokia would release a WP phone, him leaking that xbox is expandable harming his company's business wouldn't be a 1rst.
 
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