Gonna guess they wanted to promote Dixie from sidekick to lead like Diddy, which hardly happens if her companion is the character the series is named after. I understand the reasoning but it'd have been perfect, things would have gone full cycle.
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Sequels that left out popular/iconic characters?
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Gonna guess they wanted to promote Dixie from sidekick to lead like Diddy, which hardly happens if her companion is the character the series is named after. I understand the reasoning but it'd have been perfect, things would have gone full cycle.
These guys get it. SFV already has most of the worthwhile SFII characters (soon to be almost all of them once Sagat shows up in Season 3). The first two Alpha games got by just fine without E. Honda/Blanka/Dee Jay/T. Hawk/etc., so why not SFV? Concerning how good the SFV roster is right now, its great, but USFIV still holds the crown (but that could easily change after a few more seasons of DLC).
As for me, Ill add a vote for the X-Men in MvCI, Lego Marvel 2, & most of the recent Marvel games. I obviously know the reason (most of us do), but it still sucks. Also, no Lei in Tekken 7 is up there.
ClearMetal
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Not exactly sequels, but every Persona 3 spin-off that includes the main character leaves out the female main character. It's probably because too much has to be altered to the dialogue to justify her inclusion, but goddammit, she was way better than the male protagonist and I miss her.
Speaking about female protagonists: for some reason GameFreak decided to ignore Leaf's existence after FireRed and LeafGreen. Was it really that hard to include her in Sun/Moon?
Last but not least, Sandal ("Enchantment!") was pretty well liked in DA:O and DA2, but was nowhere to be found in DAI. Maybe the writers thought it would be too contrived to have him travel with the Warden, Hawke and the Inquisitor.
Speaking about female protagonists: for some reason GameFreak decided to ignore Leaf's existence after FireRed and LeafGreen. Was it really that hard to include her in Sun/Moon?
Last but not least, Sandal ("Enchantment!") was pretty well liked in DA:O and DA2, but was nowhere to be found in DAI. Maybe the writers thought it would be too contrived to have him travel with the Warden, Hawke and the Inquisitor.
Wasnt P3s FeMC established as non-canon from the start?
Beta Stage
Neo Member
IIRC, didn't Revan just pop up as some kind of hologram/apparition thing in KotOR 2 and not actually in person?
Yep. You got shafted hard in The Witcher 3 if you preferred Iorveth's path over Vernon.
ClearMetal
Member
She was when you consider the events of The Answer, which is a direct sequel to FES. Of course, one might argue that this doesn't count since The Answer was made before P3P and thus it couldn't include the FeMC in the first place.
I don't know if it was ever officially confirmed by Atlus, though.
Jaded Alyx
Member
No you wouldn't.
Prof. Bathtub
Member
Ridley in Metroid 2! (Ok, he's "iconic" because the series doesn't have any other returning characters for SSB representation, not that he's instrumental to most of the proceedings)
Let's see... Kapp'n was in Wild World, but his shanties did not return until New Leaf.
Let's see... Kapp'n was in Wild World, but his shanties did not return until New Leaf.
Technically Miyu and Fay "never existed" by the time Star Fox 64 came out because the game they were going to be part of was cancelled, and either way Star Fox 64 was a reboot of sorts.
roflwaffles
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No Magneto or Wolverine in Marvel Infinite is a travesty.
One is the 2nd or 3rd most popular Marvel character ever created and the other one was the face of the competitive scene for decades - to the point where there's a tournament series named after his meme.
One is the 2nd or 3rd most popular Marvel character ever created and the other one was the face of the competitive scene for decades - to the point where there's a tournament series named after his meme.
HyperCroutons
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Metroid Prime 2 left out Ridley, which is rare for a Metroid game.
Edit: Somebody just mentioned it lol
Edit: Somebody just mentioned it lol
Yeah, and that was - as I recall - technically optional, and based on how your relationship with T3 develops. KotOR 2 left out a whole bunch of major characters from the original.
And was all the better for it... (For real, I much prefer the Jedi Exile to Revan, and KotOR II has the stronger supporting cast, as well. Kreia alone... Ugh, holy shit, that game is SO GOOD.)
These two hurt, not seeing them in the game. I never understood why Roche was in but not Iorveth. I searched almost every corner for him.
Terrorblot
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GodfatherX
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Halo 5
Masterchief
Masterchief
Real answer is the Halo series' story and and lore I have loved for 15 years
Revolution wasn't really a main production kind of game. It was a one-console F2P experiment built from Tag 2's assets. I mean hell, Revolution didn't even have Yoshimitsu.
I'll say that Tekken 7 was the first game he missed since his introduction that had a full arcade > console release cycle, so including the main series and the tag games, but not stuff like Revolution or Tekken Advance.
Soul Calibur 5 is the biggest offense. Killed off or simply disappeared most of the most popular characters for low rent versions of the same characters that were not anywhere near as iconic or fondly remembered. And the story reasoning sucked too.
Atleast Li Long's story disappearance from Soul Blade made sense.
I also didn't like Hwangs random disappearance in SC2 onward, replacing him with some lesser cool, more annoying Korean warrior guy
Atleast Li Long's story disappearance from Soul Blade made sense.
I also didn't like Hwangs random disappearance in SC2 onward, replacing him with some lesser cool, more annoying Korean warrior guy
TwiztidElf
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Dead Rising 4
Star Orpheus
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Didn't Tekken do something similar. I remember looking up the series up, seeing it had a time skip ,and it bugged me when I noticed they either got rid off or most of the female cast and the ones they kept were given some excuse to stay young.
The lack of Daniel in Parasite Eve 2 and that abomination The Third Birthday was a joke, they replaced a cool partner/father-figure for Aya with a generic love interest guy. Although I guess it's good he wasn't in the latter game, as neat characters like Maeda got roped into that mess.
there was just no point not to have donkey in it. I know it puts me off the 3rd one. Dixie is fine, but why would I want to play as a giant baby over donkey kong?
Yeah, that was pretty lame in retrospect. Michelle was replaced by her daughter, Jun and Kunimitsu were dropped completely (the former ultimately being replaced in Tekken 5 by her teenage niece), Anna and Nina went through some contrived cryosleep nonsense to maintain their youth.
Tekken 3 was a really good game though, so it had that going for it.
T3 did a timeskip yes, but the game was so flipping awesome and the previous games so flipping work in progress that nobody cared(despite how awesome t2 was). With Soul Calibur the formula was already perfected with the first entree and it was downhill from there until 5, where the game was arguably worse than SC4 gameplay wise, introduced a lot of controversial gimmick elements like super meters, and the game is officially stated as only being released half complete due to low budget and not having enough time to complete it before the deadline
Tizoc
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I just now noticed the 'Southtown Secondus'
Iorveth was supposed to be in the quest line where you help Triss leave Novigrad (Oxenfurt?).
Saskia I could understand cutting but Iorveth? Man that blows...
Edit: I think Iorveth was cut pretty late in development. I would love to see what remains of him in the data files.
SpiceMastah
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Still waiting for Capcom to put Juri in SFV. One of the most interesting newcomers with one of the most interesting mechanics to come out of 4. Cant wait for her to come out. Really fiending for those sick feng-shui engine combos!
Spyder_Monkey
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The first and second versions of Street Fighter III don't count.
In the Gen V Pokemon games, Black/White and Black/White 2, there is no way to get Pikachu unless you transfer it from a Gen IV game. THEY TOOK OUT PIKACHU. Though ironically, Pikachu is fairly rare in most games. It typically only appears in one or two routes at a low percentage. It was even exclusive to the Safari Zone in Gen III. It wasn't really until Gen VI when they started to shove Pikachu right in your face to ensure you got one early on.
unknownstranger
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Donkey Kong and Diddy both appear when you beat the final boss without much reasoning.
New Dissidia and no Tifa
We dont have the full roster yet.
CaviarMeths
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Some characters were lucky to be replaced with low rent versions of the same characters. I'm still salty that they done my girl Talim so dirty.
Not sure if I'm missing a joke here like the Ken guy earlier in the thread, but Juri is in the game already. She was part of the first season of DLC.
Sebastiano
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Still waiting for Capcom to put Juri in SFV. One of the most interesting newcomers with one of the most interesting mechanics to come out of 4. Cant wait for her to come out. Really fiending for those sick feng-shui engine combos!
You can stop waiting:
what the fuck how didn't I notice
Somewhat Damaged
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You don't know me then. Nothing better than helping Jimmy see his Mama.
papertoonz
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if i remember correctly there is a pikachu in the overworld in Black/White doesn't really mean much but he does show up
the game doesn't even have a arcade mode yet so even if he was there how would you?
Waluigilicious
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He's been in pretty much every other Party Golf Tennis Kart Strikers etc. Was quite a big deal back then. Made people question if MK7 was rushed in any way.
And yes, it did have Waluigi Pinball.
Stead Fast
Banned
Technically speaking MGSV.
Also, does Zelda not appear in either Link's Awakening or Majora's Mask?
Also, does Zelda not appear in either Link's Awakening or Majora's Mask?
Pokemon Black 2 & White 2. In the first gen to allow syncing game stats online, they really had every character from BW return and do something interesting during the timeskip EXCEPT THE PROTAGONIST ;___;
I was expecting this to be a Soul Calibur V thread when I read the title btw
I was expecting this to be a Soul Calibur V thread when I read the title btw
Skyward Sheep
Banned
Mass Effect: Andromeda's shift in location and subsequent lack of fan favorite characters probably hurt it in the eyes of lots of fans. Especially given that the squadmates in Andromeda were pretty lackluster.
You dont play as Donkey Kong in the first one either. Cranky Kong is Donkey Kong, hes in all 3 games.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Donkey Kong is also Donkey Kong though. That's his name even though he's a descendant of Cranky. That's pretty much why the old one gets called Cranky instead.
Call me crazy, but I thought Andromeda crew are great. Not as great as ME2 crew, but definitely better than ME1 crew pre-ME2/3. If there is one thing I really like about Andromeda is how the party members actually interact with each other in the Tempest (either via comm or via email exchange).
Vetra, Jaal, and Drack are great. Liam is garbage tier though.
Yuup, this was a real bummer.