sixteen-bit
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Completed my Espgaluda collection today.
Also got this sweet Espgaluda II keychain.
Awesome!
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Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread
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Awesome!
gunstarhero
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Here's my initial list - but there's a lot more great 16bit shooters, especially on the Genesis.
Thunderforce 3 (Genesis)
Lightening Force (Genesis)
MUSHA (Genesis)
Elemental Master (Genesis)
Gates of Thunder (T16)
Lords of Thunder (T16)
Blazing Lazers (T16)
Looks like it's popping off tomorrow. I'm kind of excited to get a look at this.
Edit: Whoops popping off in 4 more days lol.
Devilgunman
Member
My man. Lord of Thunder is my GOAT shmup. The music is league ahead of any other 16 bit game.
sixteen-bit
Member
would you say it's better on Turbo CD than on Sega CD?
The music or the game?
The game's better on TGCD (better weapon balance, exclusive difficulty mode) but don't hesitate to get the Sega version if that's all you have access to.
As for the music, the compositions are the same across both games but the recordings are different: the TGCD version uses standard heavy metal arrangements whereas the Sega version is full of constant Malmsteen-esque guitar noodling.
shaowebb
Member
TROUBLE WITCHES ORIGIN GETTING COTTON DLC!
This is outta nowhere. I think it may go up either today or tomorrow too!
Hope this is a sign of Cotton coming back soon in general.
This is outta nowhere. I think it may go up either today or tomorrow too!
Hope this is a sign of Cotton coming back soon in general.
cj_iwakura
Member
Fumiko when?
sixteen-bit
Member
TROUBLE WITCHES ORIGIN GETTING COTTON DLC!
This is outta nowhere. I think it may go up either today or tomorrow too!
Hope this is a sign of Cotton coming back soon in general.
cool crossover
UnholySpectacle
Member
The black label mode for Pink Sweets is not in the 360 release, correct? Also, did they ever offer that mode as DLC? Having played the PCB of the black label, Pink Sweets is so much better in this mode.
There are a couple more Cotton announcements due this year but I don't expect a brand new game (unless it's a mobile game...)
sixteen-bit
Member
Will the Saturn games get ported to any modern systems? They're pretty expensive now (than again, a mojority of Cotton games are expensive now).
We got the third one at least
(sorry guys Gekkirindan is Tatsujin 3 in all but name, down right to the bombs)Edit : I know I'll get crucified for this but man I've been trying to get into Dariusbust and it's just not working. Everything about the game is so off putting. It's soooo bland compared to Gaiden or even G
StarCreator
Member
Uh, what? There's no such thing as Pink Sweets Black Label...
shaowebb
Member
Guilty truth. I loved playing Pink Sweets more than Muchi Pork. I know Pink Sweets is far more obtuse with it's odd power up and rose systems but I loved it. They're was a great rhythm behind nullifying shots and blasting stuff I got hooked on much like how I felt mode swapping in Akai Katana. I got a thing for mode flipping.
It's also fun to yell like Bustah Rhymes as I change shots by yelling "Flip mode!"
It's also fun to yell like Bustah Rhymes as I change shots by yelling "Flip mode!"
SOME-MIST
Member
I doubt it but maybe he thinks matsuri mode? or.... arrange? which both weren't made available on PCB.
even longer shot but maybe even ibara kuro
once you figure out the rhythm in muchi muchi pork and the game finally clicks, it's such an insanely fun system that's hard to put down.
I brought my board to the chicago meet last month, and people were mind blown / got hooked after they saw how it was supposed to be played.
the rhythm basically being: regular bullets to produce piggies for lard > lard shot to produce medals for scoring > regular bullets to collect medals and produce more piggies. And obviously chaining till you max out your medals at 10k asap and finding the best medal producing spots (like the end of stage 2 and the satellites on stage 5) until you win the game
I obviously love pink sweets too, but I mainly stuck with it until I got a few arrange 1CCs and moved back to MMP.
The website is up for RXN.
https://www.rxn.jp/
https://www.rxn.jp/
ACESmkII
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Raptomex
Member
If Genesis is a must then this list should suffice. However, if you own a Saturn, I would really encourage anybody to play TF3 and 4 (Lightening Force) on Saturn if they can find the Gold Packs. Specifically 4.
sixteen-bit
Member
Is it better on Saturn in some way?
davidwhangchoi
Member
i want to know too!
tomwhite2004
Member
no, the sound emulation isn't quite perfect on the saturn version (much better than gold pack 1 however), damn close though.
Wesley-Sigma
Member
Is this thread appropriate for twin-stick shooters as well?
Raptomex
Member
In 4's case, there's no frame rate dips, although, I've heard some say those benefit the game. I disagree. When you beat the game you unlock the TF3 ship. I'm not sure if that's the case in the Genesis version. If you're in love with TF3, Gold Pack 2 is the only way to play Thunder Force AC at home as well. Straight arcade port. I paid quite a bit for both Gold Packs several months ago and as a collector, I'm glad I did. They're in excellent shape, too. However, if you're not a collector, I would say just stick with Gold Pack 2 and forget 1. I think Gold Pack 1 includes straight ports of Genesis TF2 and 3 with minor audio issues. However, Gold Pack 2 includes the only version of AC for home consoles and in my opinion, the superior version of 4.
Is it appropriate to post a review here? I reviewed 3, AC, and Spirits a while back in one video.
I agree when talking about 3. But I don't remember any issues with 4. I need to play it again. I know for a fact it's a smoother experience.
cj_iwakura
Member
Caladrius Blaze is $29.99 on play-asia now, not sure if that's a good price or not.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
If I'm not mistaken, that's the price it released at (physical on PS4). I bought it about a month ago and it was around $35 before shipping. So yeah, I would say that $29.99 is a good price...
...if you want the physical version.
KaidoRacer7
Member
I bought for 7.49 in PS+ US
sixteen-bit
Member
I think I got the PS3 LE for like $14.99 on play-asia
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Are we bragging about the inexpensive acquisition of rare discs here, or are we talking about a good current price for a physical version?
How random. I finally ordered this one about a week ago and it was $36!
shaowebb
Member
I got one of those pandoras box 4s arcades. 680 games. Now their is a new 4s+ arcade not 5 months later with over 800 games including some sweet beatemups that were rare. I need to run some comparisons to check for shmup additions.
Definitely get in on this stuff folks. Been playing Cotton, Esp.Ra.De, Espgaluda, Truxton 2, and tons upon tons of other titles like all them good ass R Type games.
Im beginning to believe that no shmup fan should be without these things. Just so many titles like Progear remain lost otherwise.
Definitely get in on this stuff folks. Been playing Cotton, Esp.Ra.De, Espgaluda, Truxton 2, and tons upon tons of other titles like all them good ass R Type games.
Im beginning to believe that no shmup fan should be without these things. Just so many titles like Progear remain lost otherwise.
The Pandora's hardware is ancient and has issues with many games but depending on which one you got (L shaped board? HDMI out one?) you can just reflash the microsd card and get the 815 games on it.
There's a site detailing which ones can be hacked
shaowebb
Member
Neat. Thing is if you got a jamma harness its not hard to build up from the board into either a full arcade plug n play stick or a full arcade cab. Since I got so many sticks laying around I've considered just getting the new board and swapping it into my current plug n play and using the old 4s to convert one of my other sticks for a gift. It'd make the most outta old hardware I got that takes up space. After all, why do I need the old ps2 all wood giganto stick now that all the fighters I had for that are on my 4s anyway? Plus I got a zero delay converter that lets me run the better sanwa gear for that console with my main stick anyhow that was modded for all kinds of console usage.
Only thing I wish I'd see added to the Pandoras box stuff is the MVC2 board and a few more beat em ups that were arcade only like Gaiaopolis. They've almost got my entire arcade hitlist now on the Pandora's box series though and Its quality is pretty high compared to alternatives like "games family" boards that have notorious sound issues. Retropie is covering me for the rest I suppose. Still that MVC2 absence hurts. Its probably because the Arcade MVC2 was Dreamcast VMU compatible and had some sorta hardware that let you swap arcade playtime for experience to unlock things on the home version. That gear might be why the arcade board isn't a part of the Pandoras Box vs series lineup...probably causes some issues or something in dumping the rom. Just a guess though...I dont really have a clue.
I wish any of these pandoras box boards had the Castle Shikigami games on them. Could also use more psikyo and ps1 era stuff, but a lot of those weren't really arcade things to begin with.
shaowebb
Member
Good to know. I was never really certain on the specifics why. I just knew MVC2 was a later one and it wasn't showing up on their stuff. Still the quality of whats on there has definitely made up for the "onesy twosy" titles that are missing to have a perfect collection all on one arcade. It beats buying up the rigs that folks have been selling that have those but only with overall poor quality. My god the sound issues on things with those Games Family 2100+ arcades.
If you ever wanted to play the audio for a shmup through a bad chiptune soundbank thats your setup. Some of those games were just unplayable due to all the audio screeches. All my stuff on the Pandoras Box 4s looks, plays and sounds good at least. I leave the "perfect collecting" to those hyperspin folks.
It only happens with HDMI though, In CGA mode (with a real arcade monitor) it's handling most games prety well.
But you're better off just going with a retropie setup and the necessary stuff to hook it up to an Arcade unit.
That wouldn't work for me, since the reason I have a Pandora in the first place is to give me something to use with my Pana Custom supergun (since buying arcade PCBs on my income is LOL).
Edit: It'd be great if I could though, playing some of those Saturn shmups with that sweet double-Sanwa setup would be bae.
Are you sure it was a Pandora 4? I use mine with a big heavy PC CRT monitor, and I've never had tearing issues. I dunno if it could be called a proper 15hz arcade monitor, though.
shaowebb
Member
You can go and configure for each game individually too on a pandoras box. Theres a button on the board you hit that lets you enter this settings mode to config all kinds of things (difficulty, credits, screen options, etc). I forget the setting but there is stuff to clear up the screen tearing built in. You just need to turn it on when you find a title that suffers from it.
Tetsuo9999
Member
How is Graze Counter? I was thinking of picking it up. The characters are a turnoff for me, but grazing is one of my favorite shmup mechanics.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Anybody knows if Gunbarich was originally played in the arcades with a knob/spinner (Arkanoid style) controller?
Or a normal joystick? That's my make it or break it about buying the Switch port since I'm already disappointed there's no online leaderboards.
Dunno but looking at videos I get a feeling the gameplay was built around spinning controls and a joystick wouldn't be true to the proper experience, hopefully I'm wrong.
Or a normal joystick? That's my make it or break it about buying the Switch port since I'm already disappointed there's no online leaderboards.
Dunno but looking at videos I get a feeling the gameplay was built around spinning controls and a joystick wouldn't be true to the proper experience, hopefully I'm wrong.
Something like that, pre-made, in a case would be ideal.
Do you like Cho-Ren-Sha 68K? GC is a love letter to that with knobs on, same power-up structure and all.