Well duh? You're the one saying it's not the 00s anymore and now you're comparing sales to a game that was out 10 years ago?
Well duh? You're the one saying it's not the 00s anymore and now you're comparing sales to a game that was out 10 years ago?
Sony must be doing something right with all this port begging going on.
No, just get a ps4... Thread sounds like a low-key port begging thread. Mad suspect..
It'd benefit consumers, but not Sony. They wouldn't do it.
That is true. Not that it matters in this case.
I seriously doubt if ps4 exclusives went to pc that it would kill the platform.
So what? I didn't say that piracy on PC didn't exists, i said that's not a problem because it's not hurting sales. People who pirating games never intended to buy this game, but there is a lot people who buying games on PC because Steam and GOG provided good services to their customers.
Etc are far more important than 1 exclusive game or series.
No, just get a ps4... Thread sounds like a low-key port begging thread. Mad suspect..
I'm sorry but I have to disagree, everything you listed is a perk and not something you buy a platform for, price may be the exception, people buy system to play a handful of games they have in mind. They then evaluate which system they want by looking at their exclusive games.I don't think it's that simple anymore.
Multi platform games are enormous.
Networks
Where your friends are.
Media features
Price
Etc are far more important than 1 exclusive game or series.
I think exclusives sell consoles is an school way of thinking.
So what? I didn't say that piracy on PC didn't exists, i said that's not a problem because it's not hurting sales. People who pirating games never intended to buy this game, but there is a lot people who buying games on PC because Steam and GOG provided good services to their customers.
Oh you're right.Port begging is going into a thread about a game that was announced for platform X and asking for it to be released on platform Y. Nothing in this thread is port begging.
Most people on PC buy them when they're dirt cheap.
The common mentality among Steam users is along the lines of "I'll pick it up when it's on sale" rather than "I'm buying it Day 1"
Why would they ever do that? It would dilute the value of PS exclusives.
Not instantly, but slowly in the long term as many already know that PS exclusives will eventually come to PC and they wont buy their games from console unless its 90+ which will also slowly decrease. Many people here in gaf owns PS4 only for exclusives and if they think we can play them in future then will not buy PS4 thinking to play their exclusives. Also everyone will start to doubt their exclusivity which can create confusion and make people think that every game will come to PC sooner or later so they can wait.
What I think Sony could do is have a PC Storefront for third-party games with cross-buy with PS4. Get a foothold on PC, make some money. Publish only the games that make sense (maybe VR games or the rare game they sometimes publish on PC). Maybe add some strategy games to their portfolio.
Sony still had exclusives. Without exclusives and with better multiplats elsewhere, why would it keep selling as well?Multiplatform games performed better on Xbox and Gamecube as well.
When people have nothing to argue so call valid comments anti consumer.Making exclusive is anti customer now?
When does this become a thing?
It sounds good to say.Making exclusive is anti customer now?
When does this become a thing?
You saying this like console owners buying all games Day 1 at full price, your statement is hyperbole. And you forgetting about people who buying retail console games and then trading them back to stores. Should we consider that this mentality somehow hurting sales?Most people on PC buy them when they're dirt cheap.
The common mentality among Steam users is along the lines of "I'll pick it up when it's on sale" rather than "I'm buying it Day 1"
Should Nintendo?
Major flaw with this? Can you play PS3 games on your PS4? Can you play PS2 games on your PS4? Will you be able to play PS4 games on your PS5 (probably not)?
I can see the line-of-reasoning that PS exclusives should stay exclusive during the life of the console - I don't agree with it, but it's fair. But, let's take Demon's Souls. Who here is going to be a new PS3 and new copy of Demon's Souls? So why not release on PC, and get a new audience and extra revenue?
(btw, not port-begging Demon's Souls, just using it as an example. )
Making exclusive is anti customer now?
When does this become a thing?
Why won't people understand that Sony will never ever never ever put their exclusives on anything but a PlayStation ? The PlayStation brand is keeping Sony alive. The PlayStation brand is probably the most important brand in the gaming world, Sony isn't going to jeopardize that.
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You can look up my PSN tag, its the same as my GAF. I've got several PS exclusives. I'm still working towards my platinum in Bloodborne... got side tracked by Downwell. I just know I would repurchase something like Bloodborne on the PC many years after release to bump up the FPS to crazy levels, add in some silly mods and such.
Yes.
Here's a few reasons why:
1) Sony don't have to explicitly say they're doing PC versions of their exclusives when they release. Have, say, 4/5 year gap between PS4 and PC release, and they'll have made most of the revenue that they were ever going to on the PS4. The initial PS4 consumer won't feel bummed, because a 5 year gap is a decent amount of time. Certain games would even be last-generation (I'm looking at you, Demon's Souls!), if the gap was longer.
2) Not every buy the consumer makes has money going to Sony. Buy a second-hand PS4 and second-hand Bloodborne. What money has Sony seen? Oh, sure, I might buy other games in the PS ecosystem, but why wouldn't I just buy second-hand games? PC sales (tied to, say, Steam) are money every-step of the way (excluding bundled-with-graphics-cards codes). No second-hand sales lost - it's extra revenue all the way through.
3) As I said in the XBox exclusivity thread, not every exclusive game is a System-Seller. Some games, the consumer will just not buy, rather spend money buying a console just to play it. As I said in a different thread:
4) At least one game that people thought was a Sony exclusive is already on Steam. Has it hurt anyone?
Port begging is going into a thread about a game that was announced for platform X and asking for it to be released on platform Y. Nothing in this thread is port begging.
Most people on PC buy them when they're dirt cheap.
The common mentality among Steam users is along the lines of "I'll pick it up when it's on sale" rather than "I'm buying it Day 1"
Yes, they should, this whole exclusive thing is ridiculous and anticonsumer. People who didn't bought console on release date of those game will not buy it 3 or 4 years later. Personally i won't buy any console only because of exclusive games, there is no game that can justify console purchase if you are PC gamer. If their games like Uncharted or Bloodborne will be available on PC, i'll probably buy them day one, but Sony don't want to get my money so i don't care about them too.