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[MannyToons]

Damn it, I was rushing to post Camilla too.

But yeah, Fire Emblem Fates has lots of dumb shit for women, most, if not all, on the Nohrian side too.

I meam this:

is the standard model for female cavaliers and it sticks with them through promotion to Paladin. Hell it happens with female Knights -> Generals and Dark Knights too.

Good God, thanks for reminding me how much I despised some of the clothing for females in Fates. The female Nohr Noble class for Corrin is just as abysmal. Wish it was't so common. T_T

 

[The One and Done™]

But why tho...

 

[Antiwhippy]

But why tho...

Read up on Artemis of ephesus.

 

[Ragnorok64]

Quoting this again so the maybe a top page post will finally get people to realize that this is actually a good design with full justification.

Because the designer knew their mythology and art history.
Diana/Artemis of Ephesus (1st century AD):

Villa d'Este Diana Fountain (16th century):

Peter Paul Rubens (early 17th century):

Diana wasn't just the goddess of the hunt but also of nature and fertility.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Which XV character is this- oh.

For an off-shoot of the thread idea, Maverick Hunter X

And Star Ocean 2 PSP

Had some of the worst re-designs/changes in art style I've ever seen.

 

[impirius]

Already posted, but:

I'm scared that this will be the very last picture that floats through my mind as I take my final breath

 

[captain_skyhawk]

Already posted, but:



I'm scared that this will be the very last picture that floats through my mind as I take my final breath

To be fair the in game models looked a lot better than the cruddy promo art.

 

[Rickenslacker]

Not even channeling mythology can justify boob knees.

 

[InfiniteCombo]

A lot of stuff in the first page is great, and I agree with it all. The OP is fantastic... I thought that character design is just terrible.

But...

... what's wrong with this? I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

[Cirerus]

A lot of stuff in the first page is great, and I agree with it all. The OP is fantastic... I thought that character design is just terrible.

But...



... what's wrong with this? I don't see anything wrong with it.

She used to be that fearless femme fatale woman and that was cool. Now she is just an generic pretty white woman who gets hurt a lot.

 

[Orochinagis]

RIP her ribs, also heels.

 

[elkniwcire]

Seriously.. WTF?

 

[Prof. Bathtub]

RIP her ribs, also heels.

I do like the contrasting yellow on her wrists and feet. I notice its absence when I see other ZSS designs. But of course, could be way better implemented.

 

[Dreadnought]

Tracer, from Overwatch. A character so utterly by the numbers that the only things memorable about her are the controversy over her ass, and the catchphrase that you couldn't avoid if you saw their marketing at all.

Those are fightin' words

 

[Isaac Otherworld]

Going to hazard a guess that you're a straight guy? Because it's been pointed out numerous times that as an objective piece of character design, the Dante we got in the final game was hot as hell. Now, he might not be your type (he is very college twink looking which isn't to everyone's taste), but there's no denying he's a sexy guy.

I'm guessing, filthy, greasy teenagers is your fetish or something? You just keep going on and on about it and calling people who don't share your fetish sexist homophobes.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Looks like Fred Durst in a babies body with extra big head. Hated it at first sight. It took gaming down a the ugly path of cel shading. Gross.

I'm sorry, but this seems like a case of your strange taste than a bad design. Joe looks awesome

 

[jettpack]

Vexx

Nice 👌

 

[Speely]

Blinx

 

[neurosisxeno]

She used to be that fearless femme fatale woman and that was cool. Now she is just an generic pretty white woman who gets hurt a lot.

So she is a believable adequately proportioned and non-sexualized female lead and that's a bad thing?

 

[Psychoward]

She used to be that fearless femme fatale woman and that was cool. Now she is just an generic pretty white woman who gets hurt a lot.

That has nothing to do with her visual design though (which does have a different problem - she never makes a fur or leather coat despite killing and skinning animals and constantly complaining about how cold it is)

 

[Alpha Centauri]

some of these designs...

 

[Cirerus]

So she is a believable adequately proportioned and non-sexualized female lead and that's a bad thing?

And that is not necessarily good things either. Having a cartoon-like body or sexual connotation are only bad when this is the only way which females characters are represented.

My problem is to pick a beloved character and change everything appealing about it. Why not create a new one?

 

[kami_sama]

That has nothing to do with her visual design though (which does have a different problem - she never makes a fur or leather coat despite killing and skinning animals and constantly complaining about how cold it is)

It's not like you ca use the animal's skin just after skinning it. You need to prepare it before you can wear it. If you didn't, she'd wear bloody skin over her clothes.

 

[Monticello]

The biggest thing I learned in this thread is there's a good reason most here don't design characters for a living.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Damn it, I was rushing to post Camilla too.

But yeah, Fire Emblem Fates has lots of dumb shit for women, most, if not all, on the Nohrian side too.

Eh, there are some decent ones:

Well, er, one, at least. Given Beruka always comes in tow with Camilla and has nearly identical stats, I wonder if she's there specifically for people who don't like Camilla's design.

As a side note, most of the generic portraits are pretty good. I wish the actual character portraits were more in line with those:

At least you can capture and brainwash convince them to join your team.

 

[JurassicUtility]

conan obrien?

Looks surprisingly close to this horrifying Conan mask I found on google image search:

Coincidentally, I took almost the exact same screenshot as the OP because I was fascinated by how awful this character looked.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Looks surprisingly close to this horrifying Conan mask I found on google image search:

Coincidentally, I took almost the exact same screenshot as the OP because I was fascinated by how awful this character looked.

Revelations had some mind-boggingly awful designs.

 

[Giftofgab24]

That has nothing to do with her visual design though (which does have a different problem - she never makes a fur or leather coat despite killing and skinning animals and constantly complaining about how cold it is)

Wrong. Here's one of many examples.

 

[Raiden]

God i hate this one so much.

 

[TacticalHotdog]

Norton Mapes from F.E.A.R.
Fuck everything about this guy

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Norton Mapes from F.E.A.R.
Fuck everything about this guy

They let you shoot him in one of the expansion packs. It's amazing.

Props to Monolith for creating the most hateable character in gaming.

 

[Archtreyz]

New Lara is aces. Super believable design and her character arc is decent. Old Laura was bland. The only personality she had was being british.

 

[Freddo]

Japanese female character design: the thread. If most Japanese devs would try designing their females as actual people instead of fuck toys to be stared at by pervs their designs would be more likeable and relatable. Ironically I think Terra from FFVI is probably my most beloved female character design of all time, tasteful and beautiful with an underlying sense of tragedy and sadness chased with divine power to her, but it just seems like Japanese female character design has regressed heavily since the 90's.

Yeah, I agree. It would be a nice surprise to see some mature designs for females in Japanese games.

 

[Spman2099]

The biggest thing I learned in this thread is there's a good reason most here don't design characters for a living.

There are a few posters who chose solid designs that they just had a bone to pick with. Also, a few other posters picked characters that aren't necessarily poorly designed, but have clearly contentious elements (or are just super far out there). However, the majority of the designs that have been posted here are just super bad.

 

[anaron]

Shion Xenosaga 3

 

[Octavianus]

The fuck?

He's a power top.

He looks like Lurch from the Adams Family, except younger and more annoying.

 

[InfiniDragon]

I really hate PS360Wii era JRPG character designs.

These are all from different games. They look like FFX NPCs. Everyone is completely overdesigned, and it lacks any sense of artistic or thematic cohesion. I can't tell anything about the characters or the world they inhabit. Compare this to something like Final Fantasy VII, a game where you instantly get a sense of the character's personality and the atmosphere of the world simply from their designs. Even something like FFXV, a game often criticized for its artistic direction, still manages to convey a sense of the game's setting and atmosphere. These pictures are just visual gibberish. The faded color palette does it no favors either.

What in the hell, Dunban (Xenoblade) is a fantastic design and not overdone at all.

Can't agree with your blanket statement because you lumped him in with it; his default outfit fits very well with the character (the sword cape being used to cover his damaged former sword arm in particular is a nice touch) and the world it takes place in, unlike the other equippable gear sets you get later on which do get silly.

The folks who posted stuff like Drake and the 99 Dragons, Nooj in X-2, Aero the Acrobat and that Streetwise Cody skin on the other hand, are dead on. Those are really nonsense designs because they either don't fit or are just so unappealing that even if they do, you don't want to look at them.

 

[Gunblade47]

Spyro going from

to

And Vaan:

But thankfully they're gonna change those brick abs soon.

Let's also not forget that wonderful moment when they decided to take this adorable little bird from FF13:

And turn it into:

Spoiler

In the later games because of reasons that to this day still elude me.

 

[wondergorls]

I feel this one has been posted already?

Also Vaans character design isn't that bad, his model is which is a different concept in my brain.

 

[Akai__]

343i has some terrible redesigns (1st row: Grunt, Jackal and Elite) and some horrible new ones (2nd row: Watcher, Crawler and Knight):

Absolutely hate what they have done to the Bungie designs.

The 2nd row is also exactly what it looks. Not fun to fight against.

 

[Antiwhippy]

I feel this one has been posted already?

Also Vaans character design isn't that bad, his model is which is a different concept in my brain.

Look, sometimes you're rushing to work and forget which one goes first.

 

[Nikodemos]

I feel this one has been posted already?

See, this. This isn't even pandering (which I don't actually consider bad design) it's just plain stupid.

 

[Ludger Kresnik]

And Star Ocean 2 PSP



Had some of the worst re-designs/changes in art style I've ever seen.

Any other examples? The SO2 guy just looks like a cleaner and more modern art style with the same design.

 

[SomTervo]

Nooj from FFX-2.

Here you go. What do I win?

The more one looks at this... the more... just... ugh

I'm outraged at the lack of Quiet.

I guess I don't consider her design itself terrible; it's the context, animation and "lens" that makes her really problematic.

This is brilliant

They let you shoot him in one of the expansion packs. It's amazing.

Props to Monolith for creating the most hateable character in gaming.

...

*reinstalls FEAR*

*installs expansions for the first time*

 

[RRockman]

Any other examples? The SO2 guy just looks like a cleaner and more modern art style with the same design.

That's pretty much it.

A poster with both styles. The unseen characters in the bottom are still in the game but the the guy who made the poster didn't put them on.

Some fans prefer the old look and think the new one is to "generic". My only falt with the new artstyle is that Rena, the girl (with the moon symbol in her hair) got deaged with the new style. I think everyone else ESPECIALLY Claude is serviceable.

 

[Masked Devil]

Ya'll harping on Nooj, but have you seen literally any other PS2-era Nomura design? They're all terrible. Look at this shit:



From The Bouncer. Yes, this character is supposed to be a bouncer like you would see in a bar. He has a 10lb weight chained to his neck.

On top of the fact that it looks like grown-up "edgy" Sora...

 

[Aurongel]

She used to be that fearless femme fatale woman and that was cool. Now she is just an generic pretty white woman who gets hurt a lot.

She was always the latter. At least now she's the least exploitative she's ever looked. Lara Croft's design has been a slow curve upwards.

 

[Forkball]

What in the hell, Dunban (Xenoblade) is a fantastic design and not overdone at all.

I'll give you Dunban, I do think he's the best design out of everyone I posted.

On top of the fact that it looks like grown-up "edgy" Sora...

Bouncer guy came first. In fact, if I'm remembering correctly, Sora is supposed to be an amalgamation of several Nomura-designed characters including Mr. Bouncer (that's his name, right?). There are also some blatant references to The Bouncer in KH1 I believe.

 

[Quonny]

Yes, she IS as young as she looks...

Seriously, whoever designed that character needs to have their computer checked by the police.

Also, her voice. Good gravy she's awful.

 

[PillarEN]

Norton Mapes from F.E.A.R.
Fuck everything about this guy

But he's perfect for what he is. Incredibly hate-able which is the whole purpose.

I feel this one has been posted already?

Also Vaans character design isn't that bad, his model is which is a different concept in my brain.

Oh my lol. this really is bad. If you want to go trashy, go trashy. But this makes it look like she has no brain and forgot how to put on her clothes.