Diddy Kong
Banned
I'd like to know what's going on with the DKC trilogy. I already have them, but I'm still curious
Now watch as Brawl never gets a future digital-release because of the Dr. Wright assist trophy being caught up in some legal clusterfuck no one will do anything about.
(The horror! The horror!!)
You know, I completely forgot you can back this stuff up on to an SD card. Definitely going to do that first chance I get.Oh certainly... there will be a point in time where it will be up to you to backup your games to SD card. I don't trust "redownload rights" long term.
Actually, if they couldn't release it due to the Expansion Pak, Majora's Mask would not have been rereleased. In any case, it is interesting that SimCity and the Donkey Kong Country trilogy were removed specifically. The only times previously when a game was removed from the Virtual Console were due to rights issues. Irem imploded in on itself when led to their games being removed, and Konami and Ubisoft lost the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles license to, err, THQ though given THQ's current financial state, that may not be for long.
Donkey Kong Country and SimCity do have potential rights issues though, namely trademark issues. Nintendo does have to license out Rare's trademark from Microsoft to use Rare's logo for the DKC games, and Nintendo does have to license out EA's trademark on SimCity to use its name. Naturally, Microsoft wouldn't help a competitor and the rumors seems to have EA being angry at Nintendo for not using Origin for the Wii U.
Basically, there is every reason to believe that Microsoft and EA are just not playing ball with Nintendo anymore.
You know, I completely forgot you can back this stuff up on to an SD card. Definitely going to do that first chance I get.
You know, I completely forgot you can back this stuff up on to an SD card. Definitely going to do that first chance I get.
The police stations never worked for me in the VC version. Did that ever fixed or was it just me. I tried re-downloading it multiple times, maybe I just got lazy cops. Its been years so maybe I should try again.
I never could play the other simcity games. They never made sense to me. All the stuff they added made it to confusing.I'll tell you what never worked for me - how SLOW the game is. Bought it because of the GAF hype, and I loved Sim City, 2000, and 3000. But couldn't stand that even on Cheetah speed, the game crawled. One of the games that illustrates that perfect emulation isn't always best emulation.
Good point.
(I bet they didn't want to emulate the Ram pack? No Super FX chip games either. Or it could be some bizzare Nintendo logic where they want to hold back the games with teh special chipz for future download services).
EA probably asked Nintendo to take it down in an effort to starve the fanbase of all SimCity experiences in an effort to force them to buy the upcoming new SimCity.
Probably because DK64 is embarrassingly bad.And has a curse word in its opening theme song.
Of course its an issue with EA releasing a new SimCity.
The real problems are the rights law that is all over the place. Since that game was permitted at the time for Nintendo to publish it in this exact form, Nintendo should still have, regardless of whatever, the right to publish it again. Seriously.
I don't think this has anything to do with EA releasing a new Sim City game. Sim City 4 Deluxe is on sale on Steam and I think Sim City 2000 is on sale on GOG. If they aren't pulling those down then I doubt an SNES port of the first game is worth EA taking down.
Reasons are probably similar to the reasons the DKC games were taken down.
And what are those reasons? I can't figure out anything that makes sense.
In Europe they did. There was no warning about it in NA, and the games were taken down a week before they were in Europe.Nintendo warned everyone weeks in advance about the DKC trilogy's impending removal from the eShop didn't they?
Yeah, glad it was one of my first SNES VC purchases. Couldn't really get into it again though, and I'll probably just play 2000 or 4 instead at this point. Still sucks to get it pulled though. :/Wow. Glad I already bought it then. That's sad, I love that game.
Me too. Had only gotten around to snagging the first one.I was pissed. I still needed to get DKC2 and 3.
Me too. Had only gotten around to snagging the first one.
But I'll go online and buy the SNES carts. Fuck 'em. Now they'll see none of my money.
I just don't see why they can't simply put Virtual Console games on the eshop. Now they have to relaunch the whole thing again on Wii U and we painfully have to wait every week while at the most we get one game or at the least nothing for a game we may be anticipating.
Uurrrrghh. As said before it drives me nuts that they don't at least warn people a week or two before pulling games, it would at least net them some extra sales. Sega warned people about a full month in advance IIRC before they pulled the Master System version of R-TYPE (which prompted me to get it in that case).
As said before this obviously must have something to do with the VC license expiring across consoles with EA and Will Wright somehow but DKC games make no sense at all, they own those games, characters (obviously) and scenarios lock stock and barrel (ahem). Glad I got my VC copy of DKC1 safe and sound.
Edit: This makes me paranoid now wondering what other titles we should be worried about and possibly thinking about pre-emptively downloading. And as speculated in a previous post, this could be very worrisome for VC's future, especially if this is an indicator they don't have a long term plan for it.
Edit: NOE actually had the courtesy to warn people about DKC series being pulled? GG as always, NOA.
I think Sega also gave like a year heads up on losing the Ferrari license and removing Outrun from xbla. Nintendo knows when their licenses expire, they just don't care to let anyone know apparently.
I just don't see why they can't simply put Virtual Console games on the eshop
either Nintendo is being slow in setting up a new VC shop, being slow/unable to figure out a way to store purchases, are unwanting to even ALLOW people to make dual purchases, or they were stupid and didn't license the VC games for future consoles in the 1st place.
A rep from Rare once said that Nintendo has every right to put DK64 on the Virtual Console, not understanding why they haven't. So I don't think Rare is the issue with DKC.
Nintendo is literally worse than every other company in the industry in every single possible area when it comes to online services
what's this?
By the format of the date, it looks like NoE warned people.
Because Nintendo is literally worse than every other company in the industry in every single possible area when it comes to online services, presumably.
^what about shop music?
I don't think this has anything to do with EA releasing a new Sim City game. Sim City 4 Deluxe is on sale on Steam and I think Sim City 2000 is on sale on GOG. If they aren't pulling those down then I doubt an SNES port of the first game is worth EA taking down.
Reasons are probably similar to the reasons the DKC games were taken down.
I need a list of games that have been removed from the VC. Does one exist?
WiiVC Bloody Wolf 2007-06-18 0 0 0 0 600 y Removed around 2012-03-01 G-Mode TG16
WiiVC Donkey Kong Country 2007-02-19 0 0 0 0 800 y Removed 11-16-2012 Nintendo SNES
WiiVC Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest 2007-05-21 0 0 0 0 800 y Removed 11-16-2012 Nintendo SNES
WiiVC Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! 2007-12-24 0 0 0 0 800 y Removed 11-16-2012 Nintendo SNES
WiiVC Drop Off 2007-07-30 0 0 0 0 600 y Removed around 2012-03-01 Hudson Soft TG16
WiiVC Legend of Hero Tonma 2007-09-24 0 0 0 0 600 y Removed 2012-03-31 IREM TG16
WiiVC Ninja Spirit 2007-05-14 0 0 0 0 600 y Removed 2012-03-31 IREM TG16
WiiVC R-Type 2006-12-25 0 0 0 0 800 y Removed 2012-03-31 Hudson Soft TG16
WiiVC R-Type 2009-11-02 0 10 0 0 500 y Removed 2011-09-30 Sega SMS
WiiVC Silent Debuggers 2007-07-16 0 0 0 0 600 y Removed around 2012-03-01 G-Mode TG16
WiiVC Super R-Type 2008-03-17 0 0 0 0 800 y Removed 2012-03-31 IREM SNES
WiiVC Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2007-04-02 0 0 0 0 600 y Removed around 2012-02-02 Konami NES
WiiVC Vigilante 2007-02-05 0 0 0 0 600 y Removed 2012-03-31 Hudson Soft TG16
WiiWare Bruiser and Scratch 2008-12-08 0 10 0 0 1000 y Steel Penny Games, Inc.
WiiWare Diner Dash 2010-03-29 0 10 0 0 1000 y Hudson Soft
WiiWare Doc Louis's Punch-Out!! 2009-10-27 0 0 0 0 0 y Club Nintendo Reward Nintendo
WiiWare Evasive Space 2009-02-16 0 10 0 0 1000 y Akinai Games
WiiWare Horizon Riders Demo 2011-10-06 0 0 0 0 0 y Removed before 11/16/2012 DEMO Sabarasa
WiiWare Jungle Speed 2009-01-12 0 10 0 0 1000 y Playful Entertainment
WiiWare Lonpos 2009-02-02 0 10 0 0 800 y Nintendo
WiiWare Metroid Prime 3 Preview 2007-08-10 0 0 0 0 0 y CN registered on 9/13/2007. Nintendo
WiiWare Military Madness: Nectaris 2010-04-12 0 10 0 0 1000 y Removed before 2012-11-16 Hudson Soft
WiiWare Neves Plus 2009-06-22 0 10 0 0 600 y YUKE'S Company of America
WiiWare Penguins & Friends: Hey! That's My Fish! 2009-05-04 0 10 0 0 800 y Removed before 2012-04-01 Gammick Entertainment
WiiWare Pit Crew Panic! 2008-12-01 0 10 0 0 800 y Hudson Soft
WiiWare Planet Fish 2011-04-04 0 10 0 0 500 y Removed before 11/16/2012 Ludia
WiiWare Planet Pachinko 2009-01-12 0 10 0 0 500 y Allied Kingdoms Inc.
WiiWare Shootanto: Evolutionary Mayhem 2009-10-19 0 10 0 0 500 y Hudson Soft
WiiWare The Magic Obelisk 2009-12-28 0 10 0 0 500 y
It has emulation issues, anyone who has played on project64 knows this. Thats why its not there
Also Jetpac (maybe)
It really looks like Nintendo is killing the Virtual Console. Hope they announce the Wii U VC soon, but looking at the state of the VC those last years, and the speed which they launch 3DS VC games...
The Club Nintendo spreadsheet (http://clubnintendo.potchgult.com/) we've been compiling over in the CN thread lists pulled titles. I have to add SimCity tonight, but otherwise the Wii lists looks like this:
I wonder if the other Maxis ports will have issues -- SimPlanet on the VC for TG-16, for example.