sixteen-bit
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I've decided to wait around for the North American release... can't really justify the import right now.
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Sin & MOTHER F**KING Punishment 2 is only 30 MOTHER F**KING DAYS AWAY
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GhostSeed said:Translation plz
Well, from the looks of this particular comment made by so-and-so,
...it appears that Nintendo 64 is mentioned.
Now, from that, using my reading skills, I deduced that Nintendo 64 is discussed in that particular comment.
Thusly, Nintendo 64 is the next Nintendo system.
SOMEONE PLEASE TRANSLATE
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Let us know as soon as the demo leaks please
AceBandage
Banned
semiregular said:
I'm kind of surprised they're doing an Iwata Asks for S&P2, actually.
Blackbird|
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60 FPS
2 years of development
Hitoshi Yamagami was involved
2 years of development
Hitoshi Yamagami was involved
Cow Mengde
Banned
semiregular said:
I have chortles.
semiregular
Neo Member
First three pages were mainly talking about the development hell they got stuck in when developing for the Nintendo 64 (and apparently it was the same over Hal Laboratory, said Iwata), how did the project start and how did they decide the title. Interesting but I have no idea how to translate those (laughs).
Some quick translations related to S&P2 (could be wrong, feel free to correct me)
The game is 60 fps. When S&P2 team heard that Super Mario Galaxy runs at 60 fps, they said to themselves 'well, we'll do that too!'. And that's the reason why there are demo stations - because you can't experience the smoothness of the game without actually seeing it running.
Suzuki Yasushi, the person who did the art for the original S&P, has left Treasure and stopped doing videogame arts at the time development started. They ask him to come back because they felt if the designer is changed, the whole taste of the game would change and it would become a whole different game.
Treasure started developing the game with the gamecube controller in mind, and they made it really really difficult. Nakagawa expected Nintendo will tell them to fix that and make the game easier, but turned out feedback from Nintendo was that it was way too easy. That's because the wii-mote pointer made aiming so much easier. Treasure had to balance the difficulty for both the gamecube controller and the wii-mote afterwards. So now different controllers will have advantage in different parts of the game.
Some quick translations related to S&P2 (could be wrong, feel free to correct me)
The game is 60 fps. When S&P2 team heard that Super Mario Galaxy runs at 60 fps, they said to themselves 'well, we'll do that too!'. And that's the reason why there are demo stations - because you can't experience the smoothness of the game without actually seeing it running.
Suzuki Yasushi, the person who did the art for the original S&P, has left Treasure and stopped doing videogame arts at the time development started. They ask him to come back because they felt if the designer is changed, the whole taste of the game would change and it would become a whole different game.
Treasure started developing the game with the gamecube controller in mind, and they made it really really difficult. Nakagawa expected Nintendo will tell them to fix that and make the game easier, but turned out feedback from Nintendo was that it was way too easy. That's because the wii-mote pointer made aiming so much easier. Treasure had to balance the difficulty for both the gamecube controller and the wii-mote afterwards. So now different controllers will have advantage in different parts of the game.
Regulus Tera
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semiregular said:
oh gawdoh gawdoh gawdoh gawdoh gawd
semiregular said:
That's interesting. I would have thought they would have changed the enemy patterns instead.
ace harding: private eye
Member
That surprises me, as pointing to aim while maneuvering with the nunchuck seems like common sense, and the whole reason to make this game for Wii.semiregular said:
adversesolutions
Member
Some more notes on that S&P2 interview (copied and pasted from shmups):
You can see Nakagawa, second to left (co-director of Ikaruga), and I believe Suzuki Eishi on the right who did Character/Object design for Ikaruga, Treasure head honcho Maekawa in the middle with the glasses.
It's a pretty big deal that Iwata did this interview with their team I would think. Will be curious to see how the game sells given Nintendo's backing.
Nakagawa is pretty hilarious though, they must have put that dude through development hell with this game because there's a lot of points where he complains about how hard both the original and this one were to program, and then gets quiet and just nods until Iwata prods him on lol. Trauma.
This exchange was pretty funny. Yamagami, who is the producer for this game and was brought on specifically for it, talks about playing the original S&P in prep for building the new one.
Yamagami
So I told them "look, this game is too hard, I can't get anywhere in it"
and their response was "you're not the right guy for this job then"
When I told them "normal people wouldn't be able to play this" they said
"there's nobody in this company who can't play this game"
"if you can't play it, you shouldn't be a team member" ....
lol
Ironically, Nakagawa later goes on to describe how when they submitted S&P2 to Nintendo for approval, Nintendo came back and told them the game was too easy. They had apparently produced a deliciously difficult game using the gamecub controller, but with the nunchuk the game was apparently way too easy. So they had to adjust a lot of stuff to make it harder. Treasure!
You can see Nakagawa, second to left (co-director of Ikaruga), and I believe Suzuki Eishi on the right who did Character/Object design for Ikaruga, Treasure head honcho Maekawa in the middle with the glasses.
It's a pretty big deal that Iwata did this interview with their team I would think. Will be curious to see how the game sells given Nintendo's backing.
Nakagawa is pretty hilarious though, they must have put that dude through development hell with this game because there's a lot of points where he complains about how hard both the original and this one were to program, and then gets quiet and just nods until Iwata prods him on lol. Trauma.
This exchange was pretty funny. Yamagami, who is the producer for this game and was brought on specifically for it, talks about playing the original S&P in prep for building the new one.
Yamagami
So I told them "look, this game is too hard, I can't get anywhere in it"
and their response was "you're not the right guy for this job then"
When I told them "normal people wouldn't be able to play this" they said
"there's nobody in this company who can't play this game"
"if you can't play it, you shouldn't be a team member" ....
lol
Ironically, Nakagawa later goes on to describe how when they submitted S&P2 to Nintendo for approval, Nintendo came back and told them the game was too easy. They had apparently produced a deliciously difficult game using the gamecub controller, but with the nunchuk the game was apparently way too easy. So they had to adjust a lot of stuff to make it harder. Treasure!
Surgeon Rocket said:
I doubt it will matter much for people who arent aiming for the top of the ranking.
My favorite exchange:
(About starting work in 3D on the N64)
Iwata: Bosses?
Nakagawa: Well you know if boss characters aren't big...
Iwata: They aren't bosses.
Nakagawa: Right. But, in 3D, they appear out in the distance.
Iwata: Totally normal for bosses to be in the distance.
Nakagawa: The thing is that they were too small so it's like "That's not a boss!"
Iwata: Even though they were really big, they appeared very small.
Nakagawa: (With a stern expression) Yeah...
Iwata: That is a problem. (laughs)
Nakagawa: Yeah, it was. But in Sin and Punishment you can attack enemies close up, so we figured that might be a way to show how big the bosses were. The problem was though, when they got close, they were way too big.
Iwata: (laughs)
Nakagawa (looking troubled) They couldn't fit on the screen...
Iwata: You couldn't tell what the boss was if it came too close.
Nakagawa: Exactly. So you'd have this extreme close up of feet, but instead of feeling like youre up against a huge boss you're just like "It's just a pair of feet."
Everyone: LOL
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
The return of this franchise is a victory for gamers, and I hope it moves enough units to justify the whole venture. While Nintendo hasn't done a very good job of rallying 3rd party devs on the Wii some of their second party projects show that they haven't completely abandoned 'core' gamers like some people seem to believe. I hope they keep pumping out games like Excite Truck/Bots, Shake It!, Punchout!!, S&P2, etc.
F-Zero, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings, Star Fox, Kirby and Donkey Kong are all ripe for the picking. Make it so, Nintendo.
F-Zero, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings, Star Fox, Kirby and Donkey Kong are all ripe for the picking. Make it so, Nintendo.
Mockingbird
Member
For Japan-Gaffers, where would be the cheapest place to get this game?
Amazon.jp (20%off right now and free shipping)? Softmap? Costco?
Amazon.jp (20%off right now and free shipping)? Softmap? Costco?
Agent Unknown
Member
adversesolutions said:
It's a funny exchange, but glad he got the smack laid down on him and this is one example of why Treasure continues to be an awesome company for hardcore players and shmup fans.
No one has said anything about the game yet, but I'd just like to drop by and say it pretty much exceeded my expectations, and man the music is great.
It's classic Treasure, levels have you going from one crazy encounter to the next. The bosses so far are awesome. Man, I can't wait to play more.
It's classic Treasure, levels have you going from one crazy encounter to the next. The bosses so far are awesome. Man, I can't wait to play more.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
*whimpers*sprsk said:
I wish I had it now.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Oh snap, it's out? Thanks for the brief impressions. Hopefully everyone else is just too busy playing to log in. Must... know... more....
adversesolutions
Member
sprsk said:
I...argh...
argh...
MidnightScott
Banned
Nemesis556 said:
Yes Boss is importing the game, so he would know I think.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
sprsk said:
Is it better than the first one, so far?
Nemesis556 said:
I think it isn't, what with the Japanese voice acting being standard in the trailers.
Agent Unknown
Member
sprsk said:
"One crazy enounter to the next," awesome boss battles and great music all = classic Treasure indeed and insta-purchase when it arrives stateside. Thanks for the impressions.
Blackbird|
Banned
The game have only 952MB
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
The lack of impressions in here is cruel.
dragonlife
Member
Oh, God...I need this game so bad.
MikeE21286
Member
man I love that box art....
Regulus Tera
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GrotesqueBeauty said:The lack of impressions in here is cruel.
Well, it just came out a few hours ago.
Blackbird|
Banned
This game is fucking amazing
Regulus Tera
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Blackbird| said:
Is it better than the first one, at least in the introductory stages?
Blackbird|
Banned
Regulus Tera said:
Is more intense, the fluid frame-rate,insane count of enemies on screen,the music is a lot better,but i won´t say its a better game until i finish the game
Some Details:
Forget the images and videos,the game looks much better,crispy textures in par with metroid prime 3,the frame-rate nevers drops,the only letdown is the blob shadows
Time limit still exist
You find coins in the stage,maybe theres a kind shop in the game
The menus looks like brawl,big buttons,clean style,etc
The music from the fisrt trailer play in the city stages
No get bonus
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Blackbird| said:
I hate you SO much right now.
What about the cinematic sequences? Is it intelligible for once?