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Slim PS3 ...good fake or...
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Zombie James
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Onix said:
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Onix said:
Seems to me he has a hard-on for this thread dying UNLESS it has PS2 backwards compatibility.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru said:
It's so silly though.
Sure, I'd love for BC to come back ... but if it isn't, with or without a slim being created, where does this lead?
By his logic, not only should the slim not be produced (regardless of its other benefits, both to the consumer and to Sony) ... but all the current PS3's should stop being made?
lulz.
Great, now we'll get a page of posts laughing at you for viewing at 50 posts per page.Machado said:
page 34 for me too
So we're assuming the slim will launch at $399 with a price drop for the phats, or the slim launches at $299 and the phats collect dust? If Sony's build cost for the slim is around 28000 yen, they're going to make a nice chunk of change if the slim launches at $399 for a few months. Speaking of which, is there a consensus on when the slim will launch?
Well, we might keep this thread going by discussing how painful it would be for a current PS3 user to switch to the PSthree.
Consider this:
- System Activations. I'm currently on the last activation. I've lost the other four via sharing (unrecoverable) and a YLOD'ed system. I could simply deactivate the old PS3 and activate the new one, but I'd love to keep both active. Not a possibility. Sadly, Sony CS doesn't deactivate remotely unless you went the official channel with a YLOD'ed system repair (which I didn't - just got a new one myself).
- Non copyable saves. Bye bye KZ2, RE4, DS and others.
- No trophies for games that don't allow to get them once you have moved the save file on a different system (Little Big Planet and others)
- DLC issues. Some games DLC are linked to the hardware. SingStar songs can't be redownloaded on a new system. And you only get ur money back if the reason for getting the new system is the old one broke.
So, unless Sony allows us to deactivate systems ourselves, force game devs to remove copy protection or more simply just let us plug the old HDD in the new one without having to format it, I don't see myself buying a PSthree anytime soon.
Consider this:
- System Activations. I'm currently on the last activation. I've lost the other four via sharing (unrecoverable) and a YLOD'ed system. I could simply deactivate the old PS3 and activate the new one, but I'd love to keep both active. Not a possibility. Sadly, Sony CS doesn't deactivate remotely unless you went the official channel with a YLOD'ed system repair (which I didn't - just got a new one myself).
- Non copyable saves. Bye bye KZ2, RE4, DS and others.
- No trophies for games that don't allow to get them once you have moved the save file on a different system (Little Big Planet and others)
- DLC issues. Some games DLC are linked to the hardware. SingStar songs can't be redownloaded on a new system. And you only get ur money back if the reason for getting the new system is the old one broke.
So, unless Sony allows us to deactivate systems ourselves, force game devs to remove copy protection or more simply just let us plug the old HDD in the new one without having to format it, I don't see myself buying a PSthree anytime soon.
Goldrusher
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That's not how it works.max-pain said:
Valkyr Junkie
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TTP said:
Using the backup utility should solve all these issues. I'm not 100% on the DLC, but if you use the backup utility and then restore to a new PS3 it will copy over even copy-protected game saves.
Yeah, I have little sympathy for someone who shared out all of their activations.
The system is ridiculous though, because if you were to buy a second PS3 if you want to buy video content with that system you have to create a new account since you only get one activation for video downloads. I'm still waiting for Sony to deactivate my old console that died on me so I can buy video on my new one. Hell, I don't even buy video, but you can't even download free trailers (movie trailers anyway listed in the video section of the store) without the activation.
I mean, Apple has all the same concerns with copyrite and they still let you have the option of just clearing all of your activations at once if you need to. It's ridiculous we can't do that with our PS3s.
The system is ridiculous though, because if you were to buy a second PS3 if you want to buy video content with that system you have to create a new account since you only get one activation for video downloads. I'm still waiting for Sony to deactivate my old console that died on me so I can buy video on my new one. Hell, I don't even buy video, but you can't even download free trailers (movie trailers anyway listed in the video section of the store) without the activation.
I mean, Apple has all the same concerns with copyrite and they still let you have the option of just clearing all of your activations at once if you need to. It's ridiculous we can't do that with our PS3s.
teiresias said:
Between backups and mutliple system activations on DLC it mostly shouldn't usually be a problem. People make it a lot harder on themselves by aggressive sharing which doesn't leave them with options. I can understand people wanting to make purchases cheaper, but it's easy to forget or dismiss the possibility of machine failure.
Guled said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15844884&postcount=151
There's no way it's a fake. That's too elaborate of a fake to pull off.
TTP said:
Uh..they de-activated mine when I rang up. Also, I got a new PS3, copied the save for my LBP and can still get trophies. Wut?
But yeah, these other problems are major hurdles that Sony needs to figure out before they launch this thing, or it will be clusterfuck of the century.
Adam Prime
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So is the word on GAF now that Sony will be revealing this at E3 or are we not expecting to see a reveal until another game show in the Fall?
TTP said:
with the backup option I don't see any problem .
ttp said:
well , they patched Motorstorm PR and you can now copy you own save no ? so it's up to developers to do it .
actually they should let the all gamesaves copyable and sharable like what was before the stupid trophies era .
I think it's very unlikely that they will announce this at E3.
First off, they have a good amount of current PS3's all over, they need to sell those first and I think they will sell better when they're the only option.
Second, they're likely launching the New PSP this summer, it needs some elbow room.
Third, production of the new one started last month, they probably want to stockpile a bit more.
What I personally think will happen:
New PSP announced at E3.
PS3 price drop announced at E3.
PS3 Slim announced in August.
First off, they have a good amount of current PS3's all over, they need to sell those first and I think they will sell better when they're the only option.
Second, they're likely launching the New PSP this summer, it needs some elbow room.
Third, production of the new one started last month, they probably want to stockpile a bit more.
What I personally think will happen:
New PSP announced at E3.
PS3 price drop announced at E3.
PS3 Slim announced in August.
TTP said:
You can have them reset the 5 activations. I personally know two people that called in and got them reset. Explain calmly one PS3 died and thus it takes up a slot.
As to saves and DLC and things, a backup/restore works with everything. Except for KZ2, I can't believe they have not patched that yet, Motorstorm 2 did already. And you can earn LBP trophies once a save moves via backup/restore. I have.
painful fart
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Which reminds me it´s time to make a new backup, thanks for the heads up.Totobeni said:
H_Prestige
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Does the backup restore ps1 and ps2 saves?
Lord Error
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Yeah, pretty much this. And no, backup utility won't help you with any of this. You can only fully backup and restore to the same console (when you update the HDD). Not to a different console. LBP thing is really the biggest problem. Just unacceptable.TTP said:
AndyD said:
I thought it was mainly for upgrading hard disks.
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/2_60/settings/backuputility.html
ps3 manual said:
The manual is for firmware 2.6, but I can't find anything that says *1 or *2 was changed for 2.7.
Philanthropist
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I wish it was that easy. I lost a lot of my videos/music/pictures, let alone ALL my game saves. Got all my PSN games back though but I had a problem with Wipeout HD. It was my fourth PS3 and I gameshared but a call to Sony solved the problem. I'm pretty sure they just deactivated my last one (I couldn't do it myself because it wouldn't turn on).AndyD said:
I've gone through trying to restore my back up data from an old system to a new one. It doesn't work, has to be the same system.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Truespeed said:
PLOT TWIST!!
Philanthropist
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Truespeed said:
If the rumored release date is September and it turns out to be true, they aren't going to announce it at E3, 3 months before it happens. They'll only confirm it a few days or a couple weeks at most before the release date.
I don't know when the records should be available at FCC for everyone to see, but there's plenty of circumstantial proof to know that there is something in the works and that it will be out this year.
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Wollan said:
I'm hoping for summer rather than late fall on the new PSP. As for your senario, it makes sense
SolidSnakex
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spwolf said:
The price drop would make sense at E3 as it would help clean out the current PS3 model.
painful fart
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Alright, is that what I should do if I wanted to sell my PS3?Killthee said:
Can I redownload Singstore stuff and shit on a new console afterward?
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