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SNES Classic Edition possibly not sold in Quebec, Canada due to lack of translation
- Thread starter AtomicShroom
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J'ai mon'estie de voyage...
First of all,someone at Nintendo and whoever in Quebec usually takes care of this shit didnt do their jobs right...everything is set up for something like this not to happen...especially since there is French SNES in Europe...50hz over 60 hz...? c'mon,that is bullshit.
I hope,and I am pretty sure it will,that this will be resolved and we will be able to get some over here but by that time,especially for pre-orders,it will probably be too late.
First of all,someone at Nintendo and whoever in Quebec usually takes care of this shit didnt do their jobs right...everything is set up for something like this not to happen...especially since there is French SNES in Europe...50hz over 60 hz...? c'mon,that is bullshit.
I hope,and I am pretty sure it will,that this will be resolved and we will be able to get some over here but by that time,especially for pre-orders,it will probably be too late.
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Deleted member 126221
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So a journalist contacted the OQLF (the so-called "language police") about the situation, and they say they had nothing to do with Nintendo's decision. And Nintendo does not want to comment...
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...-une-decision-daffaires-de-nintendo-dit-loqlf
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...-une-decision-daffaires-de-nintendo-dit-loqlf
WrenchNinja
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Wonder why Nintendo doesn't want to talk
I think they fucked up. Someone at Nintendo panicked at the last second, thinking that the SNES Classic would get complaints since some of the games were offered in French in Europe, and decided to pull out of Quebec.
The thing is, the ESA+OQLF agreement is for games newer than 2007. There's a good chance it doesn't even apply here.
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Deleted member 126221
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Yup. It's never been a problem with Virtual Console, retro compilations, etc. Looking at how they managed amiibos, Switch stock, the NES Mini and now the SNES, I have no problem believing it is squarely on Nintendo messing up / not giving a damn.
Twilight Princess
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Is it possible that quebec has more scalpers per capita? This is a completely unfounded hypothesis, don't hate me québécois
Gaz Pwnage
Member
Fanboys? Fanboys of what? The English language? What a ridiculous post. It seems to me (Going off this thread) that this is a law in Quebec so..... What exactly do you want?
hydragonwarrior
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AuthenticM
Member
wow
I feel like the thread title should be updated to reflect that.
ReddishGUI
Member
Exactly.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I mean Quebec is sandwiched to the east, West, and South by gigantic populations of English speakers and is in a commonwealth with the mother of the English language.
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Ah et aussi, c'est bien de voir qu'on est autant de Quebecois sur GAF, je pensais pas qu'on était autant!
So, the issue lies only with Nintendo?
One would think they would have least make sure they are right before cancelling all plans at the last second.
It's not that surprising. I've got friends that never learned English since they live up north and some that only know English, saying that another language is not needed where they live. It happens.
Moi non plus.
One would think they would have least make sure they are right before cancelling all plans at the last second.
It's not that surprising. I've got friends that never learned English since they live up north and some that only know English, saying that another language is not needed where they live. It happens.
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Ah et aussi, c'est bien de voir qu'on est autant de Quebecois sur GAF, je pensais pas qu'on était autant!
Moi non plus.
You know, people not getting their game is a bummer. I was anxious to get a snes classic as much as everyone here. Instead of seing it through, understand where the problem comes from, it's way more easier to bash on a law and an agreement they don't understand. That's were my fanboy comments comes from.
Neogaf isn't a forum about language policy, so I know where the heat will be in this thread. Still, just a bit of respect and decency would have been nice and a better way get to the bottom of the case. There were good comments afterward that help in the matter.
And what do you mean by "this is a law", you mean the 101 law? Yeah it is, but if you read other posts, it's not because of the law or the ESA agreement. From what we can gather, it simply is a business decision on Nintendo part.
You're wrong. Nintendo's decision is squarely because of the regulation.
And this regulation deserves no respect. Promoting games in French is fine. Preventing games from being sold is grade A bullshit. Let people buy what they fucking want.
Have you read what the OQLF has declared? They precisely mentioned the opposite.
Maybe you can help me understand what part of the regulation has caused so much trouble to Nintendo?
I' m also curious to hear what they will say has prevented them from releasing the Snes classic, but no other product in the province until now...
It's quite clear once you read it. I could quote it, but I already did, so there you go.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=246757234
Thanks for the link.
I think we all agree it must not be about the packaging. About french versions existing in the world, do we know if it's that complicated going from PAL to NTSC for this kind of product?
I think it's just more trouble for them to have an SKU specifically for Quebec and wasn't worth it for the limited run the snes classic is getting. I guess it was backlash vs cost and they chose the backlash. Not responding is probably for the best cuz there isn't really a way to positively spin this.
Well it's the language there. You'd think one would adapt to the market without a law....
The Omega Man
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Official Language police twitter account just posted that they have never stopped the snes classic to be launched in this province and this is all Nintendo's fault.
Watch the drama unfold, it's finger pointing time!
https://twitter.com/OQLF/status/900421321913454592
Watch the drama unfold, it's finger pointing time!
https://twitter.com/OQLF/status/900421321913454592
AFAIK, the OQLF will only actively do anything if there are complaints.
But it's fairly obvious that Nintendo's actions stem from the OQLF+ESA agreement that became a regulation under Charest's Liberal government in 2007.
But, Nintendo's not talking, so the OQLF can say they didn't have anything to do with it, sort of.
Have you gotten your hands on the NES classic ? I do not, so I'm wondering what is the difference this time.
gutter_trash
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both th OQLF and Nintendo are in the bad
OQLF is horrible fo scaring away business with their complex regulation pissing off companies.
Nintendo is in the bad for being too easily scared away by the OQLF
OQLF is horrible fo scaring away business with their complex regulation pissing off companies.
Nintendo is in the bad for being too easily scared away by the OQLF
evil monkey
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They're not actively preventing them from releasing it but Nintendo knows well the OQLF will strike as soon as it's released if it has untranslated games. It's a can of worms I don't blame them for wanting to avoid altogether.
gutter_trash
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but Nintendo's agrument falls flat because the Mini-NES was released wtihout any problems.
evil monkey
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That's true but I don't remember if it had French as an option. I'll have to double check when I get home.
Edit: Games are all in English only but the menu is also available in French among other languages. Like others have said, it's probably something to do with Star Fox 2.
The Omega Man
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I just hope that at least this will make Nintendo reconsider for the second batch of consoles IF there is a second batch
It depends, are there French version of nes games offered right now somewhere in the world? That seems to be the issue with a few of the games that are part of the SNES classic.
Gaz Pwnage
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AFAIK there are no french translations for games on the NES Classic so they cannot possibly be affected by this law since they do not exist.
SNES games on the other hand do have French translations.
Euler007
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Those regulation are in place because at the time if you wanted to buy something you had better speak white or get the hell out of the store. I'm sure you'll be able to get one if you want one, and if you can't because of Nintendo's unilateral decision, emulators.
Video games is how I learned English. Let the market dictate if French versions of games is commercially viable. Involving the state for that is downright xenophobic.
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Is Kirby in French on the NES Mini? Because it definitely had a French version back in the day.
Yuck.
Pour ceux qui veulent voir Kirby adventure en francais : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYfxQbRmp4
Honestly, at this point i think the blame can be pinned on Nintendo, since the french pal game theory should also have stopped the Nes Classic.
Edit : Looking at it a bit more, there also exist a french canadian ntsc version.
I also learned the language like this, but i would have loved having the choice when i was younger. Would have made at least Point and Click Adventure games understandable. For me, having more voice languages given to the player is a good thing.
Like I posted before, promoting games in French is fine. Preventing games from being sold is grade A bullshit.
AuthenticM
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None of you actually bothered to read the Journal de Montréal article, have you?
The rep of OQLF said the contract with the ESA from '07 only applied to games from the PS3/360/Wii generation and newer. Meaning it doesn't apply to SNES games.
This is on Nintendo and Nintendo only.
The rep of OQLF said the contract with the ESA from '07 only applied to games from the PS3/360/Wii generation and newer. Meaning it doesn't apply to SNES games.
This is on Nintendo and Nintendo only.
It still does not explain why they would be preventing the SNES now and not the NES Classic then. It really look like Nintendo jumped the gun themselves without making sure it could not be sold first.
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The Omega Man
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Can Nintendo rectify this with future shipments or is the damage already done?
I'm sorry but that's not true.
Metroid Prime Trilogy
The Wonderful 101
Are two example I can think of that were affected by this.
AuthenticM
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There was no damage. Nothing prevents Nintendo from releasing SNES games in English in Québec. They chose to not release the thing there because they are a bunch of fuckers.
Both of these games were sold in Québec. I bought Prime Trilogy.
The copy i've bought in-store make me think they were either exceptions to this, or that info is dead wrong. (Granted, maybe not at Best Buy, i never checked there at the time, but it was definitively buyable at EB Games.)
Edit : Went and checked my box, i got English, French and Spanish on it too.
Do you mean they were prevented from selling it on the territory?