HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Are Nintendo fans worsers than Sony and Microsoft fans?
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So this is how Nintendo expects us to use headsets and voice chat on Switch
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Yeah, it really encapsulates what NeoGAF has become lately. Or maybe GAF has always been a circlejerk meme-factory for console warrior nerds. I dunno.
OT: That's a goofy headset and I can see myself trying that setup approximately zero times.
How would your solution look like for on the go online play and chat? I'm really interested
giancarlo123x
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Jesus I can't tell what's satire anymore, I cringed reading this bullshit excuse.
SinCityAssassin
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How would your solution look like for on the go online play and chat? I'm really interested
Update the Switch to allow phone tethering so I can just hear both in a headset.
Twenty7KVN
Member
Nintendo has three different and better ways of doing this. Enable audio thru usc-c and sell a cheap dongle,bluetooth or headphone jack but this is the solution they came up with.
If Nintendo would sell condoms:
Nintendo fans:
"I pull out anyway!"
Its because their condoms are family orientated.
test_account
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Its a joke based on a reasoning why the voice chat isnt being on the system itself
The post that i quoted said "the last time they allowed a direct communication tool in their systems -Swapnote- paedophiles started sending dick to kids". Then saying that Nintendo didnt want to be responsible for their users, making it sounds that they're not allowing voice chat directly through the system to avoid being responsible.giancarlo123x
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Any fanboy is terrible in general.
No, they are not. People just love to shit on a complete fandom, just because a few people defend something stupid. They just love to feel superior in their sad life.
Polygonal_Sprite
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If you have to use a phone anyway, why wouldn't you just use Skype and bypass Nintendo's voicechat altogether?
Unbelievably silly in this day & age.
Unbelievably silly in this day & age.
I think a lot of the really vocal Nintendo enthusiasts who apologize for everything simply don't own rival platforms so they don't have a good grasp of proper infrastructure or genre advancements. That's why when Nintendo does anything contemporary, they're heaped with praise.
Consider this: Whenever the Switch gets a four year old game ported to it, there's a thread - Is ______ The Best Game Ever? Is ______ A Perfect Game?
DrROBschiz
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Start the massive backlash train now
Or just use Discord and a wireless headset
How they fuck did they think this was a good idea
Or just use Discord and a wireless headset
How they fuck did they think this was a good idea
Would this be possible with a Software Update?
But none of that is a possible solution if voice chat is an app only thing.
SinCityAssassin
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I only ever saw that with Thumper.
I know discord / Skype is a chat option...but that doesn't help those of us who like to play at times when we need a headset for game audio too. Almost all my game time with my friends is at night when wife is sleeping. So I need my headset for game audio and chat capability. And my "clunky" Astro headset handles all the audio from my tv without changing any cords (use my tvs optical audio out to the receiver; anything I'm doing including watching tv sends audio to my headset) and then to change which system I'm chatting on (something I almost never do since I mostly chat PS4) I move one USB cable.
One headset. Multiple systems. More functionality. That's not clunky at all.
Now if I wanna chat with my buddies and play switch at night, I'll apparently need this dumb setup and maybe Even a different headset ... or i to the discord route. Except if I'm chatting on discord with a Bluetooth headset....how am I also listening to game audio at night? With a second headset on my head?
Bad move.
One headset. Multiple systems. More functionality. That's not clunky at all.
Now if I wanna chat with my buddies and play switch at night, I'll apparently need this dumb setup and maybe Even a different headset ... or i to the discord route. Except if I'm chatting on discord with a Bluetooth headset....how am I also listening to game audio at night? With a second headset on my head?
Bad move.
How would your solution look like for on the go online play and chat? I'm really interested
Plug the headset into the Switch 3.5mm port and have voice chat through that; connect the Switch to a WiFi network or hotspot.
It's quite a bit more simple, right?
How would your solution look like for on the go online play and chat? I'm really interested
You plug your headset into only the Switch, like ANY fucking device out there, and boom, voice and sound.
having to plug your headset in both your phone and Switch is mindblowingly dumb and over complicated, zero ergonomy.
KingHippo1967
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Nintendo thinks everyone that uses the Switch are 12 too apparently, because it's all way too stupid.
R_thanatos
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But but what about the battery life /s
Gunmonkey36
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Uh thats the most bs reason for this. You can put parental controls on a console that would just disable chat completely and only reactivate it with said parental control lock if you wan to prevent children from talking to people.
Additionally having the phone be the voice chat doesn't remove any of the problems you've mentioned..
How does putting the chat in a smartphone app stop racism or swearing?
Calling Nintendo a family oriented company is also at this point just not their demographics. They can pretend to be family oriented, but they are just hurting themselves.
They know and have publicly stated who owns a Switch:
Well, here is another person, who loves to feel superior. Why is this kind of bashing not bannable on Neogaf?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Quit making up shit.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Quite the opposite. It's very simple: there's no official headset support at all.
Ah right, okay. That kind of sucks, I'm so used to having game and chat audio through the same headset on PS4. :/
:Motorbass
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And what if you wanna play online at the same time but not through your phone?
No, this is a really simple solution. I have dozens of audio adapters that I can use to recreate this. It's just an audio mixer (granted with 4-pole cable on one side)
And extention cables are really cheap.
Yes
But not everywhere is a hotspot, and that's why I believe Nintendo included the Phone connection I was answering a question diplomatically.
I own a Switch, a One, a PS4. I'm platform agnostic. I'm opinionated on those who may not be.
tenderbrew
Member
Yah I won't be using this. I haven't used voice chat in a good long while though and thank God for that. This doesn't look great. I even have that nice gold headset for my PS4 but have used it only a handful of times, so thankfully I'll never engage.
Bring back Wii Speak!
Bring back Wii Speak!
But you need the Smartphone for the Hotspot to play and chat online?
OnionPowder
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Do we still wait and see before we get annoyed that we have to pay a monthly fee for this?
This is just fucking goofy.
Also fuck modern iPhones?
Good thing hot spot is wireless.
This is just fucking goofy.
Also fuck modern iPhones?
Good thing hot spot is wireless.
SinCityAssassin
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I mean that last part of your post isn't even real.
Again, it's a yearly fee. Considering the fact that the most expensive it'll probably be is 30 USD anyways, I don't think they'd bother with a monthly subscription.
Yes
Do you even realize that you don't need that fucking weird setup? That you could just skip forcing the phone app and everything would be simple and follow the standards?
Jesus christ and you will still think you're giving a clever answer because you put two fucking smiling faces.
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What? If your phone is a hotspot, you could still just connect your headset to the Switch. It doesn't have to be connected through the phone. This is just a stupid convoluted thing Nintendo came up with. Just don't fucking make voice chat an app on the phone!
OnionPowder
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That makes it much better.
😂😂😂😂😂 Hey he never said their solution wasn't going to be clunky.
Ha this is what I like to see.
This is complete nonsense. There were an incredibly small number of incidents in Japan in regard to Swapnote. Yes, those people are pure trash. No, it's not reasonable to kill an entire messaging program because a minuscule number of people did terrible things with it.
Parental controls exist for a reason.
Imagine if Sony took the messaging feature out of PS4 because someone got arrested for sending inappropriate messages to a minor. We all know that would never happen because it's ridiculous. Every single communication tool in the world can be abused.
And this idea about Nintendo being family-oriented and needing to protect the children is played out. Children are playing Xbox and PlayStation more than they play Nintendo consoles. They can message each other, use voice chat, there are cameras for the consoles. And it is the parents job to set up appropriate parental controls and watch what their children are doing.
There is no possible way to defend this. The single logical decision is to offer the type of modern communication system that have been a default feature in game consoles for 10+ years now.
iRAWRasaurus
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Yes, I think Nintendo fans are the worst cause they are used to getting shit on, they feel really defensive about their glorious switch.
No, you were not answering diplomatically, you simply made baseless assumption. I don't care, what stuff you own, but just bashing people is not cool and doesn't help the conversation. It's just a way to feel superior to those "poor Nintendo-fans, who don't know better".
Some people maybe don't have a problem with this, but they are clearly the minority in this regards even between Nintendo Fans.
Another one with a superior complex.
Dawww. It's shaped like an Inkling!
That said, the lack of voice chat in Nintendo games has kind of been a perk for me. The lack of easy push-to-talk defaults on consoles makes PS4 games a hellscape of background noise and unneeded insights into loud parent child negotiations regarding game time rules. The fact that you have to opt in, and can opt out by just yanking a cable is ... beautiful. I know that I'm in the minority here, of course
That said, the lack of voice chat in Nintendo games has kind of been a perk for me. The lack of easy push-to-talk defaults on consoles makes PS4 games a hellscape of background noise and unneeded insights into loud parent child negotiations regarding game time rules. The fact that you have to opt in, and can opt out by just yanking a cable is ... beautiful. I know that I'm in the minority here, of course
Using Skype/discord means you have to do party creation twice - connect up with your friends in game and then in your voice chat app of choice.
Using the Nintendo app I assume will allow you to voice chat with the people you're playing with.
One question that does pop up from that is whether Nintendo has a 'party chat' solution. Are you able to speak to friends A,B and C while playing with other randoms, or are you limited to chatting with the same people you're matched up with in each game?
As for why - my guess is technical limitations. Maybe including voice chat would have required reserving another CPU core or more memory and they didn't want to do that?
Yes
But man oh man this would be much more palatable if it was a companion app and the Switch had built in voice chat capabilities.
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