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Some new shots of Vita's OS/apps
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BladeoftheImmortal
Member
I really don't see why people think the xmb would be bad for touch. scroll menus are every where on my android.
EDIT: Grammatical android mistakes.
EDIT: Grammatical android mistakes.
DiscoJer
Member
BladeoftheImmortal said:
Because you have to do a lot of scrolling.
Which is easier, scrolling through dozens of items (which is what the XMB is like) or tapping the screen a few times to open up sub-menus?
Like say you started from the game menu on a PSP. You want to see how much is left on the battery (beyond the little indicator).
You'd have to scroll left 5 times, down 5-6 times to system settings, press a button, scroll down ten times to battery information, and hit another button.
Do something similar with this OS, would probably take 4-5 taps.
It's basically like using Windows using the arrow keys on the keyboard versus a mouse.
It's very likely that the main 512MB is the standard LPDDR2 found in smartphones and tablet, so having 256MB solely for the OS isn't costing them that much. The money is probably on the VRAM, which is probably fast FCRAM like the 3DS main RAM.Nuclear Muffin said:
Don't forget the OS might probably require some VRAM to be reserved for it as well (the PS3 OS reserves 32MBs of VRAM for drawing over the game). But that's still a little less than 4X more total RAM than the 3DS: close to the Wii->PS360 difference (which was over 5X) but much better than the DS->PSP gap (8X).Nuclear Muffin said:
With 32MBs the 3DS can barely run a single-tabbed browser. The Wii browser has 88MBs to work with and still isn't snappy enough. There's no way Sony can run a browser *and* have other apps in the background with only 128MBs.Nuclear Muffin said:
There's no magic to running a browser on little RAM (short of "cooking" the websites server-side), because the developer has zero control over what data it'll have to deal with.
I like how each game as its own dynamic metadata. So you can get a lot of fresh info about the game just from the system menu. I'm really leaning toward downloading everything rather than buying physical copies so you can always check on them. I just hope they don't fuck up the internal storage option.
pharmboy044
Member
So has anyone figured out what type of browser this beast uses? I really hope Sony does not go with some cheap version that won't be reliable.
Also, I wonder if Sony is changing their download/install and firmware update process for this thing. Hopefully Download and install are not two separate steps like it is on the PS3.
Song is not going to do that and their proprietary memory cards are definitely going to cost an arm and a leg if we want the large size card. I am not looking forward to seeing those prices.
Also, I wonder if Sony is changing their download/install and firmware update process for this thing. Hopefully Download and install are not two separate steps like it is on the PS3.
Are you expecting them to provide the user with internal storage or a card with the Vita?theBishop said:
Song is not going to do that and their proprietary memory cards are definitely going to cost an arm and a leg if we want the large size card. I am not looking forward to seeing those prices.
MuddyDonut
Member
The best part of the xmb is how fast it is, hopefully this is just as fast :/
Crazypanda_85
Member
Yep, I LOVE what Sony has done with the interface of the Vita. It upsets me to no end that I will have to wait til next year before I get it. I wanted to import it but seeing how this Fall is looking (bills, school, car, other games,etc,.), I had to rethink about me being upset of it not coming out before Christmas :/ lol
Here's a good runthrough of the 3DS version:patsu said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOa3DHgoHs0
There are some glimpses of Vita AR support that looks much smoother. Can't wait to try it.
Unknown One
Member
Does the vita even need AR cards? It has the same pseye tech in it so it could possibly do stuff like eyepet.
HamPster PamPster
Member
Why was the video in the OP taken down?
Anyway is there another link?
Anyway is there another link?
DidntKnowJack
Member
Whatever your view of the OS, at least Sony is making a strong response to the popularity of smartphones. I really like the 3DS, and I don't want to bash them, but Nintendo didn't seem very forward thinking at all with their device.
At any rate, I like what I'm seeing. This thing is jam packed with features. If Vita can't go toe to toe with smart phones, maybe they can at least compete directly with devices like the ipad.
All I know is I want one. Yesterday.
At any rate, I like what I'm seeing. This thing is jam packed with features. If Vita can't go toe to toe with smart phones, maybe they can at least compete directly with devices like the ipad.
All I know is I want one. Yesterday.
Stephen Colbert
Banned
badcrumble said:
Very true. I hope you can opt for a skin that turns the bubbles into rectangular tiles.
edgefusion
Member
It's very cluttered and there's absolutely zero consistency. Some kind of XMB 2.0 would have been much appreciated, this seems messy and juvenile looking. Not liking it unfortunately. I had hoped they would take a leaf out of Apple's book and make something that doesn't look like complete arse.
madmaxx350
Member
a good written walktrough for the Gamescom build of the OS, there are some speculations in there but it's worth a read
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/08/20/all-you-need-to-know-about-ps-vitas-os/
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/08/20/all-you-need-to-know-about-ps-vitas-os/
rollingstart
Banned
Too many styles going on. Exception being game pages, everything needs to be a singular theme. The store should be more like the 360 where it's integrated and not a separate launched application.
Game pages are a really good idea, though.
Game pages are a really good idea, though.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Agreed.Linkzg said:
But in case they fail to do something about it we can look forward to the downloads/DLCs menus integrated directly into LiveArea, just like we've seen back in January, to slightly mitigate the problem. That's one of the most touted features of LiveArea. Also, if they manage to speed up launching the Store app, I can see it being less of a problem. I fully expect the Store's resume/suspend process to be instantaneous, though.
pharmboy044 said:
I don't know what to expect yet.
Sony has adopted commodity flash formats in other divisions, which is a very good sign. But there have been pictures floating around supposedly from E3 showing a new memory stick format used in Vita. The cards in these pictures are physically much larger than the current MicroSD format with comparable capacities (4gb-64gb). So I'm (maybe foolishly) skeptical that the cards in those pictures are real.
There's only one format Sony should be considering for Vita and it's SDXC. It's no secret that Sony wants to nudge people toward digital distribution, and the best way to kill that goal is to saddle Vita with an expensive, storage-limited, proprietary memory format. SDXC has a generous max capacity of 2TB (currently available up to 128GB), and is backward compatible with existing SD cards. The transfer rate is roughly 100MB/sec, which would be pretty damn ideal for loading games.
Another possibility is for Vita to be an early adopter of a new commodity format. Late last year Sony, along with Nikon and Sandisk submitted a new storage standard to the CompactFlash standards body. The card would be comparable in size to existing CF cards, with write speeds up to 500MB/sec and capacities over 2TB. This card is designed for HD video recorders and pro SLR cameras, but clearly would be a great format for gaming too.
I have a question. From the pictures, it looks like it now displays the last game you played while you're not playing - is that true? Will it also still display the latest trophies you've earned? That's not shown on the screenshot of the person's profile.
I've always wanted the PS3 to show me the last game my friends were playing so I could know what game their latest trophies are from.
I've always wanted the PS3 to show me the last game my friends were playing so I could know what game their latest trophies are from.
funkystudent
Member
is it silly that I am disappointed sony didn't try make there own avatar/mii for Vita?
Am I the only one who thinks the UI looks amateur and inconsistent? Shouldn't the UI look as elegant as the hardware?
No unified font, color schemes, text sizes, etc. All of it seems completely thrown together with no sense of continuity.
Maybe it's just the designer in me being too picky...
No unified font, color schemes, text sizes, etc. All of it seems completely thrown together with no sense of continuity.
Maybe it's just the designer in me being too picky...
madmaxx350
Member
kliklik said:
I could have swear that used to be able to when they initially remodeled the player card but it doesnt anymore.
The PS3 is much more unified, but at the cost of looking very, very bland and sterile.bob page said:
The Vita looks much more fun to poke around in. It definitely seems more "inviting" in a way. As a result, it definitely won't be as fast to navigate as the PS3 XMB.
What do you mean exactly?hsukardi said:
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I wonder if Sony is aware of the negative reaction the potential userbasr is having towards the design, or if they're willing to make some of the most basic adjustment to address the clutter and inconsistency issues. People have only been decrying the UI since January.
(although I highly doubt they'll do anything about the colorful speech bubbles and user profile pages, since those mostly take the colors users picked for their PSN profiles)
(although I highly doubt they'll do anything about the colorful speech bubbles and user profile pages, since those mostly take the colors users picked for their PSN profiles)
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Monster Hunter. Need an explanation.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
onQ123 said:
Wow. Your mother must be proud.
chickdigger802
Banned
fuck.
3ds UI is horrendous and probably will never improve.
Every other screen switches between touchscreen and buttons. Long loading between all screens.
I assume vita will be spiffy. psp is spiffy as well. Let's just hope psn isn't garbage like on psp.
Took me 3 hours to dl a 3min gran turismo trailer >.>"
3ds UI is horrendous and probably will never improve.
Every other screen switches between touchscreen and buttons. Long loading between all screens.
I assume vita will be spiffy. psp is spiffy as well. Let's just hope psn isn't garbage like on psp.
Took me 3 hours to dl a 3min gran turismo trailer >.>"
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
PortTwo said:
It's called an educated guess. All it requires is a bit of logic and reasoning skills, it's fun! You should try it some time.