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[Nanashrew]

It just be cringy overall. I love Aisha Tyler at the Ubisoft conferences but it still be some funky stuff going on. Remember when she was a giant a couple years ago?

All the memes though. She was great one year, but subsequent years, the writing and all that stuff went down hill.

 

[10k]

Heard this on the Easy Allies podcast.

Try to guess! -> 70,6% / 55,7% / 51,8% / 50,2% /24,1%


Bethesda:

Spoiler

50.2% (29:33/58:55)

EA:

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24.1% (13:33/56:15)

Microsoft:

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55.7% (49:52/1:29:35)

Ubisoft:

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51,8% (1:00:35/2:00:00)

Sony:

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70.6% (53:43/1:16:35)

% = of their time was spent on actually showing video games


Thoughts?

Spoiler

EA you awful.

Nintendo: 96%

Sony and Nintendo get it.

 

[KHlover]

EA pays players or trainers to talk about their life for 10 minutes to promote their sports games. No wonder they're so low.

 

[CamHostage]

Heh, I guessed almost totally correctly ... and then I realized that I had the percentages backwards and was wrong on pretty much everything.

(I thought last year was PS4 Pro for Sony and assumed it was a lot of box talk but I forgot that was a separate event much later in the year.)

Sony and Nintendo get it.

Sony has come a long way since the PS3 "Games + Movies = Cyber World" nonsense when it ended E3 2004 showing slides of how computers compute in order to sell the power of CELL processor and the yet-to-be-unveiled PS3. They almost spoiled the PSP reveal (which was already hurt by giving the final look at the system through some Incubus video playing on a PSP sitting on a table) with ten minutes of mind-numbing yattering about "Movie+Game - Cyber World - CELL Network".

https://youtu.be/cg-Zanga13Y?t=4016

 

[JusDoIt]

I'm guessing Microsoft is dropping under 50% this year with all the Scorpio business they gotta do.

 

[Ryuuga]

There were more cubicles than minutes of gameplay shown during EA's presser.

 

[Aters]

I feel this misses a lot of context

For example Bethesda's can be much more meaningful as the time spent showing games is focused on a small subset and showing a large amount of them vs other conferences that are more on quantity, trailers that don't show much of any game at all or are highly scripted pieces.

So yeah, not really anything too interesting to me as a metric of "game shown" vs "talking"

Yep. Also it's perfectly fine for a dev to come out and explain what is shown in the trailer. The talk we don't want is manager talks.

 

[openrob]

What is this from?

 

[jviggy43]

50% and up should definitely be the standard

If prefer more than that. Sony has it right.

 

[Drencrom]

Still patiently waiting for Wattam

 

[LordBaztion]

I enjoy developers and producers talking about their games, they usually are passionate for their work and always is great to know who is behind the team. I truly believe gamers in general need to know more about the people who make games rather than just the name of the studio or publisher. Having people like Martin Sahlin or Sherida halatoe on stage just make this industry feel more human.

I also enjoy hosts like Aisha (the host needs to be someone related to games and that knows why is at that stage) or even when high executives stand and get close the the audience like when Guillemot presents the a new game or when Mike Ybarra explains new features like BC.

However, I hope publishers understand that balance is needed, I don't like when a executive stands and say for the n time things like expansing our portfolio, sharing bonds and etc. Those are important but don't spend much time on it. Also ditch those non-gaming related celebrities presentations like Pele's.

E3 is not jut a celebration of games but it's an opotunity to know and celebrate the people that makes games posible.


Edit: I need to play unravel today

 

[MauroNL]

I had forgotten Ubisoft' E3 last year was a 2 hour borefest, geez. That just wouldn't end.

 

[Kayhan]

EA running their mouths.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Huh? Nintendo's was full of talking. I remember all those pointless skits.

No, I don't think you do.

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

EA Conference: "Coming up next in 23mins: maybe actual game footage (we aren't sure yet)"

 

[hanspampel]

EA is way to less
Sony is a bit to much

i like that "a little over 50%"

 

[SmokedMeat]

Nintendo: 96%

Not much to talk about when they had one game to show.

 

[Sayad]

Was Sony's really only 70%? According to the IGN YouTube channel Sony's show was 77 minutes last year, which means that they would have spent about 23 minutes talking. That doesn't sound right at all. Will maybe have to watch it again and see if that stacks up.

It takes time for people to walk to the stage before they could show their games, that and the chitchat between games.

 

[TRUE ORDER]

Here's hoping Sony delivers again this year.

 

[EvB]

Still patiently waiting for Wattam

Too busy enjoying is life eating Toast and Ice Cream in San Francisco

 

[almostjuliuscaesar]

dat sony %

 

[GraveRobberX]

EA Executives sure love hearing the sound of their own voices I see

 

[JusDoIt]

EA is way to less
Sony is a bit to much

i like that "a little over 50%"

Wait, what?

Oh. Got it.

 

[BRocknRolla]

Wait, what?

Oh. Got it.

Give em a break. Brand loyalty is a powerful drug.

 

[Patterbits]

Aside from EAs usually 60min sports speal, 50% seems like an appropriate amount of time, which all of the publishers seem to be doing now. As much as I enjoy Sony's trailer after trailer format, I feel like they should talk more about their current years lineup and a little less showing off cgi trailers for games that don't even have a release date yet. Bethesda nailed their Fallout 4 E3 coverage, that's how you do E3

What was CGI? I thought it was mostly demos and trailers with in game footage either primarily(Last Guardian, or peppered in somewhere(Spider-Man).

 

[Spukc]

EA was the GOAT weeeeed

Wiz khalifa snoopy

 

[KooopaKid]

Nintendo: 96%

.

 

[potatohead]

And yet several praise the others for only focusing on games while bitching about Sony every time they utter a word.

Credit should go where credit is due. Sony has had consistently strong conferences for a few years in a row now, with less fluff and increasing focus on games.

 

[Sorcerer Supreme]

keita is a treasure

 

[giancarlo123x]

EA is way to less
Sony is a bit to much

i like that "a little over 50%"

Are you kidding me?
Too many games? Gross!

 

[Welfare]

As long as the talk is interesting or even has gameplay in the background, I don't care. If you are just yammering on with no substance, get off the stage.

Interesting stats though. I think the conference should aim for around a 60:40 split.

 

[Orca]

And yet several praise the others for only focusing on games while bitching about Sony every time they utter a word.

Credit should go where credit is due. Sony has had consistently strong conferences for a few years in a row now, with less fluff and increasing focus on games.

I kind of think a part of the change is that without Tretton or fake CEO Kevin Butler, they don't have real stage presences to devote time to.

 

[Fabtacular]

If Sony can deliver more of the same, I'll be happy. I'd imagine MS will involve more talking this year because of Scorpio.

I'd say one if the main reasons MS wasn't higher was that the announced the One S, Scorpio, that custom controller program, and backwards compatibility all during their E3 conference.

A lot more HW/system-level stuff than the average conference.

Probably about the same this year, considering how much people expect them to blow out Scorpio.

 

[Keasar]

Lmao EA what you doing

"We're here to reveal Star Wars!

....

But let me first tell you about my childhood memories of Star Wars! A long, long time ago..."

 

[Brad Grenz]

Remember when Ubisoft let James Cameron talk about Avatar for twenty straight minutes and then he didn't even show any of the movie or game?

 

[Nanashrew]

"We're here to reveal Star Wars!

....

But let me first tell you about my childhood memories of Star Wars! A long, long time ago..."

Then they proceed to show you concept work.

 

[Sanke__]

I feel this misses a lot of context

For example Bethesda's can be much more meaningful as the time spent showing games is focused on a small subset and showing a large amount of them vs other conferences that are more on quantity, trailers that don't show much of any game at all or are highly scripted pieces.

So yeah, not really anything too interesting to me as a metric of "game shown" vs "talking"

It is very representative of the basics though

EA did a bad job
Sony did a good job

Anything else is in the need more information category

 

[Pantz]

EA was 50% weed

 

[SirNinja]

Try to guess! -> 70,6% / 55,7% / 51,8% / 50,2% /24,1%

lol...I saw that 24% and immediately said "yep, that one's EA".

Have a feeling Sony's conference this year is going to be another >70% one.

 

[Mr-Joker]

It's good to see that Sony is improving but I still can't stomach myself to watch them live so I watch the highlight and end up skipping the parts that I am not interested in.

Furthermore I don't really like how they have a person standing on stage "playing" the game in silent and personally prefer the treehouse approach that Nintendo does.

Talking is bad?

So I guess the Shenmue 3 and Final Fantasy VII remakes talking portions blew.

Well neither of those games have been released yet, plus one was a kickstarter pledge that had no business being at Sony E3 conference.

Not much to talk about when they had one game to show.

No they didn't, they showed off quite a few 3DS games just that Breath of the Wild took the bulk of the show and was the only playable game on the show floor.

 

[AuthenticM]

Sony stay winning

 

[orochi91]

Sony stay winning

+1

 

[Majine]

EA will do videos of people behind computers doing assets again.

”This might be a game someday? I dunno”

 

[dkeane]

It's insane that Nintendo spent a majority of their time only showing the very first area of Zelda and it was still better than most other presentations. Shows how great Breath of the Wild turned out.

 

[eerik9000]

I would like to dispute the correctness of these percentages. The same guy also claimed that God of War demo was 7 minutes, while it was actually just a little under 10 minutes.

Official upload (9:58)
Press conference recording (demo starts at 34:48, ends 44:28, lenght 9 minutes 40 seconds)

Even if you trim down logos and title screens, it is still over 9 minutes.

 

[foxbeldin]

EA is way to less
Sony is a bit to much

i like that "a little over 50%"

No such thing as showing too much games.

 

[eerik9000]

No such thing as showing too much games.

But how else would one defend their beloved Xbox against Playstation in this context?

 

[clem84]

Pay 5€ for 5% more.

lol

 

[foxbeldin]

But how else would one defend their beloved Xbox against Playstation in this context?

 

[anothertech]

Hahahaaa EA what you doing. Sony and MS are on the right track tho