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Something's a stir between Square and MS at TGS
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gregor7777
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Loudninja said:
You wouldn't happen to have a source that told you that, would you? Maybe one who had something to say about E3?
gregor7777
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It was a goof on Opus.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338046&page=4
And you aren't the first the bring up the famitsu claim.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338046&page=4
And you aren't the first the bring up the famitsu claim.
UltimaPooh
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Opus Angelorum said:
Hope to see you on the other side!
gregor7777
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Synless said:
Tonight at 11pm EST is when it starts.
Skiptastic
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Opus Angelorum said:
Godspeed you magnificent bastard!
gregor7777
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MoogPaul said:
His last two games were DS games.
Maybe someone else can chime in on his contractual obligations, if any.
Opus Angelorum
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Skiptastic said:
"Sakaguchi" isn't contractually obligated to anything, and I don't think he's contractually obligated to make any games for anyone except that Microsoft would not fund a game for PlayStation 3. 
The crossover is never happening again. Apparently Sakaguchi and Horii don't really get along?
Though there is one thing that confuses me. When people say that Mistwalker was set up with the financial backing of Microsoft, I am confused as to whether that means the first few games were funded or if the payroll was actually eaten by MS for a little while. That could be where the contractual obligations could come from, but I do not know what's up with that (plus, obviously they've been designing on the DS).
I'm sure duckroll knows. He's such a smartie.
The crossover is never happening again. Apparently Sakaguchi and Horii don't really get along?
Though there is one thing that confuses me. When people say that Mistwalker was set up with the financial backing of Microsoft, I am confused as to whether that means the first few games were funded or if the payroll was actually eaten by MS for a little while. That could be where the contractual obligations could come from, but I do not know what's up with that (plus, obviously they've been designing on the DS).
I'm sure duckroll knows. He's such a smartie.
gregor7777 said:
my understanding was that as far as console exclusivity, Mistwalker was tied directly to the 360 until that contract ended or was terminated, but Mistwalker could do whatever they wanted for portables.
i don't think anyone really knows the actual contractual obligations. perhaps it was for a specific number of games with an option to extend it? perhaps it was for a specific time period? who knows, but i believe he has made comments about only developing on the 360.
i use italics because depending upon the contract, he could possibly pull a Peter Molyneux or even do it just independent of Mistwalker.
Y2Kev said:"Sakaguchi" isn't contractually obligated to anything, and I don't think he's contractually obligated to make any games for anyone except that Microsoft would not fund a game for PlayStation 3.
The crossover is never happening again. Apparently Sakaguchi and Horii don't really get along?
Though there is one thing that confuses me. When people say that Mistwalker was set up with the financial backing of Microsoft, I am confused as to whether that means the first few games were funded or if the payroll was actually eaten by MS for a little while. That could be where the contractual obligations could come from, but I do not know what's up with that (plus, obviously they've been designing on the DS).
I was under the impression that Microsoft flipped the bill for the studio itself. The building, computers, etc etc.
As far as the DS, no problem. There is no microsoft handheld, Rare makes DS games too. I'm pretty sure microsoft is really trying to pimp the "Xbox and Wii/DS go together so well" which between the lines read "MUST KILL SONY".
UltimaPooh
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Opus Angelorum
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Synless said:
Indeed, I'm by no means a favourite around here but I am certainly not... never mind.
If Duckroll thinks it's worthy of a permanent ban then that's his decision, I'll be gutted if it happens. I love this damn place.
AranhaHunter
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Synless said:
What if he's right though? He should get promoted to mod status.
Relaxed Muscle
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Opus Angelorum said:
OokieSpookie
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daCuk said:
There is already potential for a meltdown in the Tekken 6 thread :lol
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â Narayan
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Just three? Wow.clashfan said:
Kinitari said:
No one said that they would have to match Microsoft for every penny. The issue is one of brand identity and the steps that Sony allows Microsoft to make now will set the foundation for the Xbox brand eventually being a competitive force in the Japanese marketplace in the future.
Back when we first started seeing the fruits of Microsofts co development deals the 360 was selling like 2k a week. Japanese consumers didn't associate it with JRPGs. Now, even though both of their sales are small compared to the Wii, we're seeing the 360 (thanks in part also to agressive pricing) outselling the PS3 for a month in Japan for the first time ever.
The issue here is that when the 360 was weaker in Japan, Sony could have offered a comparatively smaller deal to developers to release their RPGs on the PS3 first and it still would have made more sense to a developer, even in the face of Microsofts much better support.
Instead of following a tactic of supression, Sony Japan has been complacent and lazy and allowed Microsoft to roam unchecked in the market place. "A Moneyhat war" isn't necessary now, but the stronger the Xbox brand becomes over the long term in Japan, the more a money hat war would need to become a reality.
And that's a war that Sony can't win, so instead they need to focus on seeing the same long term game as Microsoft, and instead focus on supression.
You might say that "It only outsold it for a month" but Japanese devs are looking at this, and at least Microsofts console is showing some positive momentum. The PS3 is just stagnant, and SCEJ has the appearance of being innept and useless in changing that situation.
Had Sony offered... anything, relatively speaking, this gen to Japanese devs, you wouldn't be seeing things like Last Remnant slowly becoming a 360 exclusive.
Rhazer Fusion
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Zen said:
Moneyhats aside, I agree with your sentiment. Sony really can't afford to even let Microsoft gain any kind of ground or momentum in Japan. If Microsoft becomes even a diminutive threat to Sony in Japan, they could be permanently screwed. Anything can happen this generation.
Touche, I'm not really an Apple fan at all, and I found their "I'm a PC ads" to be extremely shortsighted and annoying...I do however recognize that the market for apple computers is definitely growing, more universities are going apple, and yes they have hipsters on lock.Aselith said:
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