NoctisVsStar
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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
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theaffection
Member
OOZ is honestly the shits -_-
Although its always sucked
Although its always sucked
FeenixRising
Banned
How the hell do you hit the
Act 1 boss?
Lava Reef
The Xtortionist
Member
I think people might be sleeping on the
Titanic Monarch
Best remixed song is really tough to call...Stardust Speedway Act 1 and 2,
Metallic Madness Act 1 and 2, and Lava Reef Act 2
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Oil Ocean 2 is great you heathens. So is Sandopolis act 2.
mrmickfran
Member
I love the
I think people might be sleeping on thethemes, though. Super imposing and atmospheric.Titanic Monarch
Best remixed song is really tough to call...Stardust Speedway Act 1 and 2,are all incredible.Metallic Madness Act 1 and 2, and Lava Reef Act 2
Titanic Monarch
The name though, lmao
when he drills on the spots with stone left the machine overheats and loses armour after a couple of times his side/leg armour is gone and you can hit him.
there must be a trick I'm not getting on thewater level boss
swim against those cannon looking things and then swim in the same position as where they drift off they will hit robotnik.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Oh man, I hooked up the 8BitDo SFC30 today and played a bit. This thing beats the hell out of the JoyCon Buttons and the Pro Controller's D-Pad. It feels so wrong, yet controls so right.
Uhhhh think I ran into a bug at the end of the Press Garden stage 2. I was fighting the boss dude, but the button with the creatures was right behind him. So i just went and pressed it. It took me forward to
, but I couldn't move. Then two minutes later somehow I got hit by something, lost my coins, and sonic is stuck repeating a damaged slide animation and sound effect. Can't even press pause.
edit: was able to restart the game, it looks like it saved that i beat the level and now I'm starting on SSZ
doctor robotnik at a computer terminal
edit: was able to restart the game, it looks like it saved that i beat the level and now I'm starting on SSZ
NoctisVsStar
Member
Imo i hate the
level.
tmz
Mr. Smiley
Member
delete this
It's certainly the weakest zone in the game. I like the first act but the second is just blegh.
This might legit be the GOTY. I had a huge grin on my face as I played through the first 4 zones. Can't wait to play more after work today. It's actually amazing for so many reasons. Unbelievable job on this by the team.
If Mario or Zelda beat this game for GOTY, this game should at least earn OST of the year.
BRING ON MANIA 2
If Mario or Zelda beat this game for GOTY, this game should at least earn OST of the year.
BRING ON MANIA 2
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Loving this.
Unlockable spoilers
Unlockable spoilers
Knuckles & Knuckles mode holy crap.
you have no idea of what power you're toying with
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Well this game has its Mystic Caves Super Sonic spike pit equivalent....
NoctisVsStar
Member
I've had like 5 timeouts lol music is good but the second act is just annoying. Hopefully I complete it now.
just suck up robotnik you can dispose of the bombs in the water with those small bombs on the machine you use, you can drop em with the spindash/jump button i think after that quickly suck up robotnik otherwise the top button of the 4 letter/symbol buttons but it's one of them or the down/up button i don't remember it for sure but one of those drops those small things that can destroy the bombs
StarCreator
Member
I actually didn't use the torpedo laying at all. I just sucked Eggman up and let go as soon as he took damage, and I never took a bomb hit.
So I've got two main gripes with
Other than that, fucking love it still. Just as much fun as I remember it being in the other games.
Super Sonic, and they're pretty much the same problems I've always had.
Firstly, the music. As awesome as the super sonic music is, it does get repetitive after a while, and I miss hearing the other fantastic tracks in the game!
Second, arriving to a boss while Super Sonic can be to your detriment. If there's a little cutscenes, your rings keep counting down, and if you run out midway through a fight, you're often fucked unless you finish the fight flawlessly, and it leaves you on zero rings. If you're lucky there will be some extra rings in the fight itself, but that's not usually the case.
Firstly, the music. As awesome as the super sonic music is, it does get repetitive after a while, and I miss hearing the other fantastic tracks in the game!
Second, arriving to a boss while Super Sonic can be to your detriment. If there's a little cutscenes, your rings keep counting down, and if you run out midway through a fight, you're often fucked unless you finish the fight flawlessly, and it leaves you on zero rings. If you're lucky there will be some extra rings in the fight itself, but that's not usually the case.
Other than that, fucking love it still. Just as much fun as I remember it being in the other games.
Well, I beat it. Very enjoyable, packed full of nostalgia and well worth the time and money.
That said, I'd hesitate to say it's a great game, and I'd still put Sonic 3&K ahead of it.
My major issues with the game would be:
-It's not brand-new, obviously, which limits the impact it can have
-It doesn't really feel like a new entry with a 'story' as much as the fan remix that it is - this clearly not the 'true sonic 4'
-Some of the bosses are 'cute' or 'clever' rather than being actually fun
-And the biggest one, which is that the level layouts are way too 'non-linear' for me.
There's far too much of the pipes or warps or what have you that move you from one section of a level to an utterly different one. It means you're constantly disoriented and it's hard to get a grasp of the levels even over multiple playthroughs. I never played Sonic CD - was the level design in that game like this? Personally I prefer linear levels with top middle and bottom routes that intersect and overlap at times, but where you always have a fairly strong sense of where you are - at the top or near the bottom etc. Mania just doesn't do that very much. The very last act feels more like you're in a constant special stage or pinball machine than playing a solid level and it felt like the culmination of a lot of the design principles in the game which was to constantly throw various obstacles and springs etc at you and leave you with no idea where you've ended up at the end of those segments.
Other than that, all of my issues with the game are issues with the classic 2D sonic game design and it feels redundant to go over those here, seeing as making the game authentic was their goal, after all. I will say, however, that remembering that the biggest threat in Sonic games was fitting into a space too small for you that you came across off-screen without a chance to react and dying instantly - that is really, really frustrating.
That said, I'd hesitate to say it's a great game, and I'd still put Sonic 3&K ahead of it.
My major issues with the game would be:
-It's not brand-new, obviously, which limits the impact it can have
-It doesn't really feel like a new entry with a 'story' as much as the fan remix that it is - this clearly not the 'true sonic 4'
-Some of the bosses are 'cute' or 'clever' rather than being actually fun
-And the biggest one, which is that the level layouts are way too 'non-linear' for me.
There's far too much of the pipes or warps or what have you that move you from one section of a level to an utterly different one. It means you're constantly disoriented and it's hard to get a grasp of the levels even over multiple playthroughs. I never played Sonic CD - was the level design in that game like this? Personally I prefer linear levels with top middle and bottom routes that intersect and overlap at times, but where you always have a fairly strong sense of where you are - at the top or near the bottom etc. Mania just doesn't do that very much. The very last act feels more like you're in a constant special stage or pinball machine than playing a solid level and it felt like the culmination of a lot of the design principles in the game which was to constantly throw various obstacles and springs etc at you and leave you with no idea where you've ended up at the end of those segments.
Other than that, all of my issues with the game are issues with the classic 2D sonic game design and it feels redundant to go over those here, seeing as making the game authentic was their goal, after all. I will say, however, that remembering that the biggest threat in Sonic games was fitting into a space too small for you that you came across off-screen without a chance to react and dying instantly - that is really, really frustrating.
Done it. I was trying to be cleaver
OrbitalBeard
Member
METALLIC MADNESS
I DARE YOU TO SIT STILL
GOOD LORD THAT SAX SOLO!!!
They have super forms.
Portability fam
Yassssssss!
It's literally a perfect portable game. If you're ever going to be in a situation where you're travelling with your Switch, Sonic Mania will be a great game to have on hand. Much better in short bursts than the likes of Zelda, doesn't rely on online like Splatoon 2 or Mario Kart.
This that one time where you're not sacrificing anything at all by going Switch but you gain portability, so I think it's an easy choice.
FallingEdge
Member
I thought the PS4 Pro version supports 4K. Are all versions the same?
ThisIsMyDogKyle
Banned
This is my first Sonic game, having a lot of fun, just finished the second act of Chemical Zone, that boss was very clever. There were some areas in Chemical Zone that allowed you to have a sustained high speed for crazy amounts of time, really liked that.
CampbellzSoup
Member
The shading / coloring on the Press Zone makes it very fanish they didn't shade that zone right at all
StarCreator
Member
4K output is unique to the PS4 Pro right now, though this really doesn't mean much if you don't actually have a 4K display - all it really means is it can natively show a pixel perfect image regardless of your display's native resolution.
All versions do 1080p@60Hz for the most part (the Switch version has some minor performance issues during special stages, and there are apparently issues relating to the dashboard software on Xbox One).
Crimsonclaw111
Member
The special stages suck ass
I think people might be sleeping on thethemes, though. Super imposing and atmospheric.Titanic Monarch
Best remixed song is really tough to call...Stardust Speedway Act 1 and 2,are all incredible.Metallic Madness Act 1 and 2, and Lava Reef Act 2
Sounds so much like the Danganrompa 2 theme. Gives me the creeps.
Flintty
Member
This is exactly it. I've been away on business at least a week every month this year and my Switch has come with me every time since March, including a trip to the US (Zelda at 40kft over the Atlantic was surreal!). So portability is what's selling it on Switch.
I game share on Xbox with my son though and would love for him to be able to play in his room, plus chievos for Xbox.
But I think portability wins. Wife has claimed the Xbox tonight so I think I might just get it now on Switch!
AlexFlame116
Member
Just got the Switch CE from Amazon and I heard lots of jumble in the box. I opened it and the everything was out of their holdings so they were flopping around inside the box. Is this normal?
dolabla
Member
That's the way I'm going once I have my collector's edition delivered today. I used the 8bitdo SNES/SFC with USF2 and it worked great. Would be awesome if 8bitdo made a Genesis style controller.
Jaded Alyx
Member
And FWIW, the Switch version is just something like 186 MB so it will not take much of the Switch internal space. It's one of the smallest Switch games out there.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Fuck it, GAF. I'm in for the portability!
Hyyyype!
You've made a very wise choice.
Incitemaybe
Member
Having a blast playing in both co-op and competitive mode. This game is very well done and very fun and surprising.