g35twinturbo said:Looks good but my heart belongs to Sonic Fan Remix.
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Combichristoffersen said:Eh, I still consider it to be utter madness
Sandopolis and Marble Garden were absolutely godawful, probably the worst zones in any of the main trilogy games. The rest of the levels weren't too bad, even though they tended to be a bit too long, making them drag on. And the colour palette in S3&K is meh as far as I'm concerned, as it far too often looks like someone vomited up a bunch of colours. Also prefer the clean, sleek look of Sonic 1, 2 and CD over the grainy look of S3&K.
And not even Ice Cap can beat Chemical Plant.
_Alkaline_ said:There's factually wrong opinions and there's the acceptable but still questionable 'watcha talkin' about willis?" opinions. His was the latter.
S3&K had by far the most creative and satisfying level design. Granted some of its gimmicks were more tedious than fun, and Sandopolis in particular was mediocre, but its heights were higher than 2. Not to mention an exceptional colour palet, superior level flow (despite 2 having the incredible Chemical Plant, which is second only to Ice Cap) and the wonderful transitions from act to act. Plus no Mecrapilos Act 3!
Net_Wrecker said:Why are you guys whispering?
Balb said:Since it doesn't say on the site, is this a graphics patch or is it a full game that you download?
Kulock said:This is a stand-alone remake you download. Sonic 2's engine has been torn apart by hackers, though, so they're not just taking rough guesses at "it should kinda move like this," I presume they're pretty much going to mimic the exact physics calculations as much as possible.
cjelly said:Looks like a Flash game.
Willy105 said:But I prefer games that at least seem like they are finished, Gravijah.
Green Scar said:whilst we're debating which sonic adventure is best, let's debate which star wars prequel is best
There is Sonic 2 for iPhone you know. Also this looks cool, but I'd rather something more in the vein of Sonic Fan Remix.Blueblur1 said:I think it looks fantastic. I can't wait! I was reading this thread earlier in bed using my iPhone and it compelled me to get up and play some Sonic 2.
Gravijah said:KOTOR2
Willy105 said:Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars
Sega generally doesn't shut down fan projects and hacks. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if they tried to stuff this one since it's a close to exact remake of one of their games, but it'd still be out of the ordinary for them to do so.Balb said:I'm interested but is there a reason why Sega hasn't shut it down?
Sadly I have to agree. It's certainly crisp and smooth but it looks soulless, although that could partially be down to Emerald Hill being dull as dishwater.revolverjgw said:I appreciate the hard work and skill that went into this but I do not like what that looks like, at all.
Sixfortyfive said:Sega generally doesn't shut down fan projects and hacks. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if they tried to stuff this one since it's a close to exact remake of one of their games, but it'd still be out of the norm for them to do so.
Due to the widescreen the gameplay also feels like it is zoomed out too much, another flash like feeling to me.Azure Phoenix said:Sadly I have to agree. It's certainly crisp and smooth but it looks soulless, although that could partially be down to Emerald Hill being dull as dishwater.
It may just be me, but I feel that remakes need to mix things up a little and make their own mark. Sonic Fan Remix is an apt example, the visual style may divide opinions like Marmite but the creator has a clear vision of the style he wants. This just seems a little bit too much like design by committee.
Balb said:I'm interested but is there a reason why Sega hasn't shut it down?
It's not quite that simple.Sega1991 said:Initially, these sorts of things were distributed as IPS patches, which would then be applied to a game ROM to modify it. IPS patches were more or less legal as they were not the game itself, just a record of the differences between two versions of a game (the modified version and the "clean" version).
Somewhere down the line Sonic Retro abolished the idea of distributing patches and decided to take the easy road.
Sixfortyfive said:It's not quite that simple.
The IPS patch format is very rudimentary. When it comes to simple hacks, where you just change a few hex values here and there and don't shift around much of anything else in the ROM, yes, the resulting IPS patches are usually very small and literally only contain a record of what was changed and how. When you start to get into more complex hacks (like most of the stuff you see on Sonic Retro these days), where a full reassembly of the game is required, an IPS patch would usually end up containing everything in the game in the first place, so there's not much of a point in using it for more involved projects.
There are better and more sophisticated patch formats out there now to avoid this sort of thing and keep the distribution of romhacks more on the up and up, but the last time I checked most of the romhacking community at large doesn't really bother.
Solid_Rain said:I really like it, especially the music which I think was very underrated in the early Sonic games.
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This is exactly what I want when someone says "Sonic HD" - I don't like things like Sonic Fan Remix, etc. They look messy with the overdone photorealistic textures in a non-realistic shape, etc.
This is it man. This is what Sonic HD should look like. Crisp clean, true to original animation. Fucking perfect.
YES!
Sega1991 said:Sega's relationship with Sonic Retro (the guys behind Sonic 2 HD) is actually super bizarre if you really stop and take a good hard look at it.
So you have Sonic Retro, a community who, at least in the circles I was a part of, primarily gained notoriety for the act of hacking Sonic games. Adding new characters, new levels, or simply using their hacking knowledge to uncover ideas left on the cutting room floor.
Initially, these sorts of things were distributed as IPS patches, which would then be applied to a game ROM to modify it. IPS patches were more or less legal as they were not the game itself, just a record of the differences between two versions of a game (the modified version and the "clean" version).
Somewhere down the line Sonic Retro abolished the idea of distributing patches and decided to take the easy road.
Now as I say this, keep in mind that Sega Community staff occasionally posts in Sonic Retro's forums and that these same people have partnered with Sonic Retro to release exclusive content on their front page and gather feedback from these forums. Sega is more than aware of what goes on in there.
When the Sonic 4 leaks started coming hot and heavy, and Sega got really angry that basically their entire game was being exposed to the internet for all to see months before its scheduled release date, a great number of those leaks seemed to be coming out of Sonic Retro. One of the first times discussion of Sonic 4 was banned on Sonic Retro is because moderation staff put their foot down and said on their front page, (to paraphrase) "Sonic Retro does not allow illegal content and we have removed all of the offending Sonic 4 leaked stuff from the forums." This, right above a news post about all of the leaked videos... that was never removed.
Nevermind a stickied forum thread that contains... well, I've probably already said too much.
Again: Sega has officially partnered with this forum to do special activities.
tl;dr: Nobody knows but the general response seems to be "They're going to pretend it doesn't exist for everybody's sake." Sonic fangames in various forms and such have been around for more than a decade and Sega's never done anything about them before.
Yeah, I won it. Can't complete all the special stages with touch controls tho so I don't play it much. >_<Veins said:There is Sonic 2 for iPhone you know. Also this looks cool, but I'd rather something more in the vein of Sonic Fan Remix.