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Sony 2024 TV Lineup Revealed: Use Mini LED over OLED for 2024 Flagship TV
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Mini LED > OLED
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ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Mini LED > OLED
You think Mini LED is good, just wait until Micro LED becomes mainstream. That is what I am holding out for for my next TV upgrade.
Cert.in.Death
Member
Just you wait until Quantum Nano OLED UQFHD, rated AO by the ESRB
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I would love to replace my QN90A with a Bravia 9. If the Bravia 7 is as good as last year's X95L I would even consider that. The X95L wasn't available at 65" in America.
GriffinCorp
Member
I have my eye on the Sony A90L QD-OLED but is the Bravia 9 going to be better? The price is sort of close. I was surprised that they did not announce any new QD-OLEDs.
Fredrik
Member
So are new TVs finally as bright as my Sony Bravia XE9305 from 2017?Mini LED > OLED
Edit: ”peak brightness could be sustained around 1370 nits”
Sony KD-55XE9305 Review: Baby ZD9
With 1370-nit peak brightness, Sony's KD-55XE9305 is the best edge-lit LED TV we've reviewed in terms of HDR delivery. A baby ZD9.
www.hdtvtest.co.uk
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Meicyn
Gold Member
Chiggs
Member
I can see whoremaster Caleb is sensing another golden opportunity to suck off a product manager and, perhaps, an entire marketing team if he can muster the strength to do so (he can).
"Want me to bash OLED? I can do that! *Slurp* Slurp* Want me to talk about how 'true black' is totally overrated and that backlights add more charm to the content you're watching? I can do that! *Slurp* Slurp*
Meicyn
Gold Member
It gets worse, one of the 2.1 ports is the eARC port. Sony reminds me of Apple, they are masterclass in the synergy of software and hardware. But then they cheap out on dumb shit, like how Apple still ships computers with 8GB of shared memory for system and video.
Mattyp
Gold Member
MiniLED over OLED, however Sonys Android TV is fucking trash so I've only bought Samsungs for quite awhile now and will continue to do so have moved away from Sony TVs just because of how poor the operating system was in comparison.
Samsung 85" x3
Samsung 75" x1
Sony 65" x1
Sony 48" x1
Will phase out these last Sonys from in my house shortly.
Samsung 85" x3
Samsung 75" x1
Sony 65" x1
Sony 48" x1
Will phase out these last Sonys from in my house shortly.
Chiggs
Member
They're just sooooo in love with MediaTek that they couldn't even imagine a world without their shitty chipsets!
Magic Carpet
Member
My Samsung Q70 82 inch has a great picture but the HDMI tech is about as bare bones as 2019 had to offer. ARC, not even EARC, ONE HDMI port with full features.
Sony you got to do better than 2019 HDMI tech and have at least an 82" or bigger available to get me to look your way.
Sony you got to do better than 2019 HDMI tech and have at least an 82" or bigger available to get me to look your way.
Meicyn
Gold Member
It really is a baffling choice. Mediatek must be giving them a stupid good deal, but the limit to what is effectively a single 2.1 port is a significant limitation compared to Sony’s peers. I route all my stuff through my Denon receiver, but I know it introduces some degree of latency, even if I can’t perceive it.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Got burned with Sony 900e TV. Shittest TV I ever had. Burned out pixels, Laggy OS, ARC port sound issues which I fixed by using the old school optical port. Wow thanks. At least optical audio works like it's 1999. First and last time ever buying a Sony TV. Even just booting up the Netflix app was sketchy and would hang.
Got a free replacement from Costco as the repair guy couldnt fix it anymore due to parts shortage (or so is claimed). I picked the best rated LG Nanocell TV offered which going by ratings.com got meh scores. 900e got close toa 9/10 i think and my TV was rated like a 7/10 so I thought it'd be crap. Way better tv, faster, and zero issues so far. Everything works and to boot it even has a 120fps HDMI port.
Down the line when it comes to getting a newer TV, I'll look into an LG OLED.
Got a free replacement from Costco as the repair guy couldnt fix it anymore due to parts shortage (or so is claimed). I picked the best rated LG Nanocell TV offered which going by ratings.com got meh scores. 900e got close toa 9/10 i think and my TV was rated like a 7/10 so I thought it'd be crap. Way better tv, faster, and zero issues so far. Everything works and to boot it even has a 120fps HDMI port.
Down the line when it comes to getting a newer TV, I'll look into an LG OLED.
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Kerotan
Member
Are Sony going to keep pushing QD OLED or moving on?
MikeM
Member
Eyeing that LG B4 hard as a replacement to my old Panasonic ST60 plasma.
Only LED panels I like are Sony but no way am I taking the hit with their lack of 4x 2.1 ports and their handicapping of backlight management when game mode is engaged. Hell, Dolby Vision only works at 60fps too.
Only LED panels I like are Sony but no way am I taking the hit with their lack of 4x 2.1 ports and their handicapping of backlight management when game mode is engaged. Hell, Dolby Vision only works at 60fps too.
KuraiShidosha
Member
I'm waiting for super high density MiniLED to come to the monitor market then that'll be my stopgap until MicroLED reaches mass market numbers. OLED is a joke with it's screen dimming, burn out and horrible subpixel arrangements.
BlitzerRadic
Member
I am so very tempted to upgrade to a Bravia 9 from my Samsung QN90C but Game Motion+ is a legit awesome feature for gaming which is why I am sticking with Samsung (for now).
I've seen screen shots of the Sony game bar and it has blur reduction - does anyone know if its any good?
I've seen screen shots of the Sony game bar and it has blur reduction - does anyone know if its any good?
Meicyn
Gold Member
Could I get more details on this, or a reference?
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
SONY 2024 TV LINEUP & PRICING
Bravia 9 Mini LED (85”, 75”, 65”)
85" Class (84.6" diag): $5,499.99
75" Class (74.5" diag): $3,999.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $3,299.99
Bravia 8 OLED (77”, 65”, 55”)
77" Class (76.7" diag): $3,899.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $2,799.99
55" Class (54.6" diag): $1,999.99
Bravia 7 Mini LED (85”, 75”, 65”, 55”)
85" Class (84.6" diag): $3,499.99
75" Class (74.5" diag): $2,799.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $2,299.99
55" Class (54.6" diag): $1,899.99
Bravia 3 LED (85”, 75”, 65”, 55”, 50”, 43”)
85" Class (84.6" diag): $1,799.99
75" Class (74.5" diag): $1,299.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $999.99
55" Class (54.6" diag): $849.99
50" Class (49.5" diag): $699.99
43" Class (42.5" diag): $599.99
Bravia 9 Mini LED (85”, 75”, 65”)
85" Class (84.6" diag): $5,499.99
75" Class (74.5" diag): $3,999.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $3,299.99
Bravia 8 OLED (77”, 65”, 55”)
77" Class (76.7" diag): $3,899.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $2,799.99
55" Class (54.6" diag): $1,999.99
Bravia 7 Mini LED (85”, 75”, 65”, 55”)
85" Class (84.6" diag): $3,499.99
75" Class (74.5" diag): $2,799.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $2,299.99
55" Class (54.6" diag): $1,899.99
Bravia 3 LED (85”, 75”, 65”, 55”, 50”, 43”)
85" Class (84.6" diag): $1,799.99
75" Class (74.5" diag): $1,299.99
65" Class (64.5" diag): $999.99
55" Class (54.6" diag): $849.99
50" Class (49.5" diag): $699.99
43" Class (42.5" diag): $599.99
ByWatterson
Member
I feel like LG's quality streak and affordability makes anything else feel like a gamble.
MikeM
Member
X90h and x90j TVs would butcher FALD and other settings in game mode. Seems the x90l is fine though per rtings and the x90j got an update later on to fix it.
Reallink
Member
Can't speak for every single make and model, but there's no reason modern AVR's should introduce any measurable lag if you turn off the processing and GUI overlay bullshit (like the popup volume bar), Vincent has measured one with his input lag device. I think I've seen Denon's measured at 0ms too with all the crap turned off.
CityHunter1981
Member
No sorry, but they are still lacking in an important point and that is upscaling quality. I compared many tvs and spoke to experts and it’s just a fact that Sony still offers the best upscaling quality and it’s still a very important feature as I doubt anyone is using 100% native 4K content.
Meicyn
Gold Member
Excellent to know, very appreciated. I have video conversion off so no GUI or any other post processing is done by the receiver. Explains why I couldn’t perceive any difference since there’s apparently none, lol. Yay!
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Having both in my house I am right there with you. While still sometimes using my OLED monitor I will never buy another non mini LED TV. For me those 4k nits trump inky blacks all day as long as their dimming algorithm is goodMini LED > OLED
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
You plan on upgrading the QN90A or are you still content? This Bravia 9 looks like a new breakthrough for local dimming tech while being able to produce a massive amount of Nits.
HeisenbergFX4
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crazepharmacist
Member
Wait is mini led actually superior to oled in picture quality?
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Xtib81
Member
Nice nitpicking. Could do the same with other shots where Sony's TVs, be it miniled ou Oled, are behind. Now, if you like spending 1000€ more for a similar result, you do you
“just as good”
lmao
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I think I read that there is only LG and Samsung that make their own full custom chipsets so all TV's outside of those brands are currently limited to 2x HDMI 2.1 due to the all the other manufacturers using the same 'best' chipset available.
GymWolf
Member
Are black real blacks or just very dark blue and greys?It's always been superior
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Xtib81
Member
Yet, everytime I watch a comparison on YT, the Oled screen obliterates the mini led in most scenes. The contrast you get on Oled is unmatched.It's always been superior
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
They tricked you into buying a dim TV. I fell for it once too. Enjoy those perfect blacks though.
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I recently bought the 75" Hisense (75U8KQTUK) that has a different panel type (IPS-ADS as opposed to the VA panels in the rest of the range), I was coming from a 4/5 year old LG B7 OLED that had Minecraft and YouTube logo burnt in when the screen was redish.
The new Hisense is much better than the older OLED (apart from viewing angles) Mini LED so much brighter. There also does not seem to be any Halo'ing or blooming - really impressed so far. Black bars are black while picture is really bright. Couldn't afford a 75" LG OLED so this was a compromise, but I'm happy with it.
and YouTube logo burnt in when the screen was redish.The new Hisense is much better than the older OLED (apart from viewing angles) Mini LED so much brighter. There also does not seem to be any Halo'ing or blooming - really impressed so far. Black bars are black while picture is really bright. Couldn't afford a 75" LG OLED so this was a compromise, but I'm happy with it.
Xtib81
Member
Bro, LG cx!? why not showing the LG b7 while you're at it ? lol. I don't deny that mini led screens are brighter. However the latest Oled screens reach 1500 nits on a 10% window and I feel like it's bright enough. Now, I'm not an oled fanboy, I'm actually quite disappointed with my E9 so my next screen could be a mini led but everytime I watch comparisons, the contrast on Oled just takes the cake.
They tricked you into buying a dim TV. I fell for it once too. Enjoy those perfect blacks though.
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I think there is a thing with OLED screens to auto dim a bright picture after a bit of time to avoid burn in, which can be an issue depending on what your watching. Not sure that always gets picked up - I know HDTV TEST did a thing on it. Still High end OLEDs are hard to beat though.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
The QN90C is a shit Mini LED for the simple fact it uses an IPS panel which has low native contrast. There is a reason Samsung went back to a VA panel for the QN90D. Matter of fact the more expensive QN95C of last year also uses a VA panel.
