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Sony engineers working on PS Vita "cost reduction" for post-2012 price cut
- Thread starter DaSorcerer7
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Are you kidding me? Why would any of those games make people want to buy a Vita? All I see is home console game, B-team spin-off, spin-off, home console game and home console game.
It's the fucking PSP all over again. People want home console experiences on a handheld? Yeah, well PSP sure showed how that worked out.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Shitty low end vita with shitty LCD incoming
Broken Hope
Member
They need to though, every other advert lately is 3DS and NSMB2, don't see Vita adverts on TV at all.
It's definitely both things, but why risking bad sales because of price with appealing software when you can attack from both sides?
We coulda had the answer with the 3DS, but we'll never know because SM3DL launched after the price cut
GoofsterStud
Member
The PSP had JRPGs...Date Sims....
While that may look like a dis. I love my PSP and I love my JRPGs.
Metalmurphy
Member
PSP screens have improved, not the other way around. And the "low end" was 8 years after release.
Brad Grenz
Member
You know, that's already about the street price for those cards online. 4GB cards are frequently tossed in for free and 32GB cards hover around $75-80. In any case, the pricing of the memory cards was always about appeasing brick and mortar retailers who would not want to carry a system where every game is available digitally day one otherwise.
Personally I was able to get a used Vita with a 16GB card for $200 flat on eBay. Considering you're getting the most powerful mobile hardware available the Vita is a tremendous value at its current price.
Don'tBeWeird
Member
Sweet, now this is more like it, Sony.
But, please, no more quick montages. They might look cool, but they don't help sell a product the way Nintendo adverts do.
And those JRPGs are all headed to 3DS now, so what's left?
Also, I don't think date sims are that hot outside Japan.
Yeah I've been struggling with the choice of which handheld I want this holiday season but I think this will push me towards 3DS. I would be pissed to buy a vita only to have the price cut 6 months later. $250 + whatever the price of the memory unit is a bit too much for me.
Yes, but LCD technology was also improving and becoming cheaper, and those revisions were also further apart.
Panic mode Sony isn't known for improving products to drop the price (see: 40gb PS3). This new Vita very well may be a lesser product to sell more units. It is entirely possibly that the OLED screen will get ditched to save money.
Edit: It'll be interesting to see the people who won't buy it know and are waiting for the revision pay top dollar for launch units with better build quality and features, haha. It's literally PS3 all over again.
dacuk
Member
Me too.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Sony should have priced it at $399 like most people expected and then dropped it to $250 for the holidays. This is what they get for trying to sell products at a reasonable price.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
PSP didnt use the most expensive screen technology in modern tech though. Oleds are crazy expensive and is the most expensive component in the vita. I suspect they'll keep the oled vita as its premium model and launch a cheaper LCD vita that will cost like 70$ less.
michaelius
Banned
1. Fifa has been on top of PSP software charts for years.
2. Those 70 milions of PSP owners sure not wanted console experience on the go
No one wants to trade that, they just want their cake and eat it too, which simply isn't possible in Sony's current position. You either pony up money for quality hardware, or you wait it out and buy the inferior model at a lower price. It also sends a message to Sony that gamers simply aren't interested in affordable quality hardware with new technology. Vita + PS3 will have significant impact on PS4, and I doubt we'll see cutting edge tech in it as a result.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
It worked fine for the PSP. The PSP was outselling the DS until the Lite was released.
CornBurrito
Member
I like the people saying "the system is fairly priced, EXCEPT for the memory cards." Is the system even usable without a large memory card for the majority of the content?
get2sammyb
Member
Then perhaps you'd be more interested in the PlayStation Mobile line-up/upcoming PSN games. So much venom on this forum sometimes.
1. Because some customers actually bought a PSP, and that is not happening with Vita.1. Fifa has been on top of PSP software charts for years.
2. Those 70 milions of PSP owners sure not wanted console experience on the go
2. So how about those PSP software sales, can you give me some numbers to back up your claims? Afaik, people bought a PSP, then installed a custom firmware and pirated games or used it for emulators.
Were you around when PSP launched? It was supposed to be the next best thing since sliced bread. It was the almighty Playstation in a portable form, and it was sure to trounce Nintendo from their handheld throne. The hype was exceptional, and launch numbers were great. But in the end it absolutely didn't work fine for PSP, see abysmal software sales.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Game journalists as well, but cheap should be determined by sales, not by manufacturing cost.
Daydream Sequence
Banned
If that part is true, wow. "We expected a bomb, and we got a bomb. Boom!" I'm sure their stockholders love that.
In the light of how weak the 3DS was/is, the Vita seemed like a huge bargain at the same price.
They don't care about their stockholds one bit, they've proven that over the years. And just recently refusing to share the split between PSP/Vita shipments.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Yes I was and I just praised it with my post. I had gotten it as a gift by surprise shortly after the US launch and it could not put it down for days. It was a beefed up PS2 with more functionality than the iPod's at the time, it was just something else that no one had seen before. Piracy and lack of support from Sony in the later years is what ruined the platform.
Everybody assumed that price would include internal storage.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Sony's first price drop of the PS3 was at E3 2007 of $100. Seven months after launch and BC was still a part of the unit.
Brad Grenz
Member
If you're mostly buying retail games.
If you're at all interested in PSN titles, PSP games and going pure digital you should get at least a 16GB card. I think it sits at the most palatable price point. Frankly, the joy of having like 20 game on your Vita at all times, between minis, PSN only and full blown retail releases, is totally worth the price of the memory. At ~$45 the 16GB card is less than a year of XBox Live Gold. It's less than it costs to upgrade a Google Nexus 7 from 8GB to 16GB. It's half as much to upgrade an iPad or iPhone by the same amount of memory.
The price was announced with specs. I don't think ANYONE expected internal storage. Especially since mem cards were announced as well (with no pricing).
Loghorn150
Banned
Better get your PS Vita with the OLED screen while you can. Or even get a used one.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
They're probably going to shit up a new model of the thing, and not add TV-out (the one thing I'd actually want from a revision.) Might as well take advantage of one of the deals floating about than wait for the inevitable bootleg model.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
People expected open memory like the PS3.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Most people were expecting some minimal flash storage for saves, and did not expect the memory cards to be required for so many games. Tretton even said that there would be internal storage at one point and it took almost a week following the conference for them to clear that up.
Sorry, my memory is hazy. It was the MGS4 unit, correct? With the half-half BC (emulated CPU and physical GPU)? Even still, the amount of gamers hunting 60GB units at high prices was rather amusing to me, and I think we'll see something similar if the next Vita iteration is "gimped" comparatively.
AranhaHunter
Banned
As a matter of fact those publishers have shown indication that they do not want to support the vita.
I won't even entertain the idea of getting a vita until they have some build on storage on the damn thing. It should be standard in this day and age.
And all the games (except GR) they want on XBOX360 and PS3. Only bigger, cheaper. The way they threat the vita makes it niche, nothing more unfortnatly
michaelius
Banned
To a 70 million install base that is good or bad in your opinion?
illmatic19
Member
I'm still going to hold off. Man, I really wanted P4G in time for the holidays. Maybe the Vita will go on sale on Boxing day.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
No, that was 2008. The second price drop happened just 5 months after the first drop with the introduction of the 40 gig.
So released in Nov 2006. First price cut in June 2007 then second price cut in November 2007. So the PS3 got in fact two price cuts in its first year.