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Sony engineers working on PS Vita "cost reduction" for post-2012 price cut
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metalslimer
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The only way I would consider that kind of downgrade is screens would be with an HDMI out inclusion and dropping the proprietary memory.
yellowjacket25
Member
So in other words, discontinue the Vita and create a new handheld?
Duxxy3
Member
Would you say that the 60GB ps3 and the 120GB ps3 are different systems?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
PS3 had to drop some features to get the price down.
I would laugh and cry at the same time. :lol
metalslimer
Member
PS3 dropping PS2 BC made it a new system?
Actually we might see 10ms horrible LCD with crazy ghosting, and bundled 4gb memory for $199.
yeah.
yellowjacket25
Member
The PS3 and the Vita aren't really comparable here. Name all of the features that can be reasonably stripped from the Vita. There aren't many. Sony was dumb to include PS2 hardware chips in the PS3 from the beginning and stripped them out later to save costs. What is going to be stripped from the Vita? Completely changing the screen and the structure of the memory for the system would be pretty huge changes at this point. If they are going to go that extreme to save $50 per system then they might as well start over.
i don't see how it would be a downgrade, since you wouldn't get horrible vertical lines on certain colors on a large number of units.
metalslimer
Member
OLED can certainly be reasonably stripped from Vita. No game requires it to run. It's just a visual thing. OLED is probably the biggest cost component as well.
But what if i got a perfect one ;_;
boiled goose
good with gravy
hmmm.
announcing a pricecut now that will not happen till next year is silly.
now ppl will hold out on buying one during the holidays... :/
announcing a pricecut now that will not happen till next year is silly.
now ppl will hold out on buying one during the holidays... :/
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Jack Tretton said removing BC didn't save money, they just wanted you to buy PS3 games.
yellowjacket25
Member
It would take a complete change in the manufacturing process and in other parts of the system. OLED screens in general have better power efficiency then LCD screens. This would have to be accounted for when redesigning everything. There is also no guarantee as to how current games will look on a different screen or how the public will react to a complete downgrade in a product.
yellowjacket25
Member
How could removing two unneeded chips from a system not save money? That doesn't make any sense.
So far Madden and AC have had their memory cards removed (Madden bundle box even says you'll need to go buy a memory card for many game features to work), LBP has a price but no word of memory card, and CoD bundle has a memory card but no price. Given the CoD bundle also includes a case, I think, expect it to come in over $250.
The bundles seem to basically be boxed free-game-with-Vita deals so far.
Duxxy3
Member
There have been a few smart phones that needed to change from oled to super LCD because of oled shortages. I don't believe they changed anything internally on the phone.
Also, I don't believe tretton for a second regarding bc. Removing something from a product DOES make it cheaper to make.
Also, I don't believe tretton for a second regarding bc. Removing something from a product DOES make it cheaper to make.
CaptainZombie
Member
I feel the same way about that as we saw with each PSP release. I'll hold on to my 3G model till a 3rd or 4th revision comes out in a few years with more features.
Yeah, you're basically getting a $40 freebie.
I'm guessing $300 for the Call of Duty Vita pack then. What size card does it come with, 4 gig? 8?
Evolution_1ne
Banned
what's going on this thread
Interferon
Member
If you mean IPS S-LCD2, it's not much cheaper than OLED (if it is at all). However, outside the deep blacks, it's all-round a better display.
I actually can't find a source cofirming the memory card anymore--I thought I read there was one, but everywhere just refers to the custom Vita, game, and pouch. So maybe no bundles will include a memory card after all?
Jack Tretton says a lot of things, lol.
ThisWreckage
Banned
The price is not the problem whatsoever. The Vita will see a very minor uptick in sales post price drop. When the Vita was announced, GAF thought that the price was fair and people were expecting it to be more expensive. The price is indeed fair for the hardware. Now GAF thinks that a price drop is magically going to drive sales. The answer is no.
Duxxy3
Member
It was released a year after it was shown. By the time it came out it wasn't a good deal compared to what came out in that year.
Retailers and online stores will probably still bundle a memory card anyway. Here in the UK many Vita's come with a memory packed in for free anyway.
Anyone who really wants Vita badly enough can currently buy it off craigslist for sub $200, with a game, memory card and no tax.
The trolls in this thread aren't going to play a 'waiting game'... if they're too cheap to buy a Vita at $250, then they also aren't going wait over a year after it's released to save 50 measly dollars.
By the time the Vita gets a price deduction, there will be sub $200 tablets with ultra hi-res displays and quad-core processers from every major manufacturer. The Vita will look last gen when compared to these newer devices. The only people that will buy the Vita will be niche customers by that time.
Oh wait, only the niche customers are buying now.
Oh wait, only the niche customers are buying now.
This boat, I am in it.
Won't settle for less than 32GB. And the 75€ for that size is quite the shocker.
timetokill
Banned
Yeah, and rumble is a last-gen feature, amirite?
nhlducks35
Member
The problem with the Vita memory cards is that I can only use them on that device, and I have to pay a lot of money to do so. On the flip side, I can easily purchase a 32 GB SD card for my 3DS for $30 and use it in my digital cameras or computers.
sonikokaruto
Banned
Remove all the touch components, and the second analog stick.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
That wasn't an actual quote but a journalist "paraphrasing" him IIRC.
Remove the rear touchpad. Useless feature. I hated it in UC and turn it off in FIFA. I wonder how much it costs to implement it?
My real concern with the vita is the price for the Memory card, not the price of the handheld. The handheld is beefy enough to warrant the price tag. It just needs the games and cheaper memory.
My real concern with the vita is the price for the Memory card, not the price of the handheld. The handheld is beefy enough to warrant the price tag. It just needs the games and cheaper memory.
Buy one of those then dude. Vita was never about keeping up with tablets, hell tablets will catch 720/PS4 as well. Will pure gaming devices die once tablet specs surpass them? PC blows away PS3 and 360 now, have they stopped selling? Either the value is there and you want a Vita or not. Really simple dude.
Fixed1979
Member
Who's getting screwed? The people who paid more and got a piece of tech that reflected that price, or the people who paid less and got a piece of tech that reflected that price?
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Wait, you guys think they should get rid of the OLED sceen? idk about that. That screen is a selling point I think.
metalslimer
Member
If that's the only way they can cut costs without losing money than yes they should.
I don't think that should happen,it'll be like ps3 without blu-ray or 3ds without the 3d though in that case it's pretty much useless but it was a major selling point for it
Glorified G
Member
Please still keep the OLED screen.