VanCityGamer
Member
There is tons of attacking people for their opinions/being cynical about games and the industry/console wars, etc. I like coming here and enjoy GAF a lot, but I'm surprised you think it's "generally very positive".
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There is tons of attacking people for their opinions/being cynical about games and the industry/console wars, etc. I like coming here and enjoy GAF a lot, but I'm surprised you think it's "generally very positive".
GAF is very positive? The comments in the closed Scorpio and ME thread are downright embarrassing. Pretty close to gamefaq level.
A lot depends on how good the traversal and combat is. Web swingng needs to be on point and moving around in general needs to be fun
False Witness
Member
A visit to any Ubisoft thread is enough to see GAF's true colors in regards to how cynical a majority of members can be sometimes.
I'm really hoping we get the Dreams beta over the summer. I just have the urge to create right now.
I'm really hoping we get the Dreams beta over the summer. I just have the urge to create right now.
Heckler456
Banned
No need to get super hyped. People can just choose not to interact with subjects that inherently don't interest them beyond the joy they get out of shitting on it.
Electret
Member
That's a huge disappointment. This forum keeps hemorrhaging insiders (and ostensibly a desire to thoroughly vet them).
Majority of the time yes but GAF's dark side really shows up in certain thread topics and man, it isn't pretty. Topics like Xbox as of late, Mass Effect, Ubisoft, threads about exclusives and of course review threads.
Thankfully this thread has remained terrific even though we haven't had much to talk about since PSX.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I think it's got a very good chance of being among the best superhero games ever. Arkham Asylum be looking over its shoulder nervously.
So create echo chambers then? The thing shinobi left because of? Hmmm, interesting take on the situation i guess. Lol.
Yeah it'll be good, I think they can nail the traversal and combat. Whether or not it's amazing depends on the story imo. We'll have to wait and see.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Yes he left because there was no echo chambers. That's exactly why.
Heckler456
Banned
You can have critical discourse without it having to devolve in an 80 page thread literally gleefully shitting on a game's animation. Or having a positive impression of someone actually playing the game being slandered as astroturfing. Or having everything culminate into the harassment of an animator that didn't even work on the game.
It's kinda sad that positivity, giving the benefit of the doubt, or actual thoughtful discourse are considered the echochamber these days, and that the immediate and incessant toxic negativity in every single and solitary Mass Effect thread is apparently how it should be.
Anyway, sorry for straying off topic.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Exactly this. You can dislike something and still maintain critical thought and discussion of it. People were talking about Shinobi lying just to build hype for the game. All because he liked Mass Effect Andromeda. That is nothing short of nonsense and it needs to be called out.
I don't blame Shinobi at all for leaving/going on hiatus/coming here less.
But yeah, how about that Spider-Man?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Sooo ape escape 4 at e3 this year right
MugiwaraCole
Member
DriftingSpirit
Member
Or we riot otherwise.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
It's time
We got a better chance of seeing a "Shenmue delayed to 2018 but in its place here is Shenmue HD 1 + 2 ReMix" announcement haha
DriftingSpirit
Member
That doesn't mean it isn't 2017 though. They just don't want to speak on a date until they are really sure. We're basically back to square one lol.the dream is dead
I never bought it anyway tho
yo, this is very much possible lol
I'd take the remaster collection.
Chris Metal
Member
mejin
Member
Nah, its finally time for Dark Cloud 3.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Screw that y'all got a ni no kuni sequel. White knight chronicles or bust
Merchandise
Member
So he left because people were making fun of Mass Effect animations? lol
I think it's more so that many threads devolve into a circle-jerk of hate devoid of almost all actual discussion and where people who enjoy what's being blasted are shit on.
Mass Effect is just the latest significant example. It's become nearly impossible to hold a real discussion on it outside of the OT.
gundamkyoukai
Member
yep HZD had the worst threads for any game i have ever seen on GAF .
At one point they were hard to read because of all the nonsense .
Back on topic i have full faith that IG will do a great spider-man game.
It's my most hype game until we get more info on TLOUP2 and FFVIIR.
Chris Metal
Member
It was a fair bit more than that... didn't help his topic on his early playtime impressions on ME:A got turned into a unnecessary mess cause he was enjoying the game.
But this is wayyy off-topic and the subject of him leaving is done and dusted, and he still updates twitter which is plenty for news.
DriftingSpirit
Member
https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/848916420977143808
Edit - This will be my last response on the matter. I just felt that tweet sums it all up.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Announcing Jak And Daxter PS2 Classics for PS4 at this period is really a good sign. Before the only way to play them is either on PS2 or on PS3/PS Vita in the HD Collection. No way to play them on PS4. This is the first time they re-release an already released series in HD Collection on previous gen as PS2 Classics to be played on PS4.
Jak And Daxter on PS4 will happen surely and it will be a sequel and not a reboot anymore. I have no doubt in that now. Now E3 will still hold some new surprises.
Jak And Daxter on PS4 will happen surely and it will be a sequel and not a reboot anymore. I have no doubt in that now. Now E3 will still hold some new surprises.
Theslammer
Member
Just gotta look at Shinobi's last page worth of posts. Here's the last one he made:
I get what he's saying. Hope he does come back, though.
In the meantime, I really enjoy this thread! Lots of us have come to love much of Sony's First Party and their collaborations, and JuanLatino did a great job organizing the OP. Looking forward to E3 in a few months!
I get what he's saying. Hope he does come back, though.
In the meantime, I really enjoy this thread! Lots of us have come to love much of Sony's First Party and their collaborations, and JuanLatino did a great job organizing the OP. Looking forward to E3 in a few months!
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah I have the same feeling too about gamers in general...it may be because they are more vocal than the other even though there's still a lot of people here that manage to stay civil even when they express how disgruntled they can be.
But as times passes I see more those console warriors as sports fans willing to tear the other team a part, sometimes even willing for a game to fail.
I think it's stupid a game being cancelled or failling (either critically or commercialy) is always bad for the industry.
Sometime reading some post is quite depressing and especially some of its trends like Nintendoom or this wil be like no man's sky even the scorpio one is stupid (although not specifically negative)
Their overuse takes away all the meanings they had and seeing those being repeted again and again it's like fighting (Doctor Strange spoilers)
Dormammu
He aint wrong.
On another note. Yea E3 should be exciting. I'm expecting more news on Spiderman even if it doesn't come out this year. I assume we'll get a nice slice of gameplay. Maybe get a release date on Dreams and Detroit.
Expecting an RDR2 trailer here, Battlefront 2 trailer, COD etc. But what surprises are you guys expecting. First party or otherwise.
Haven't been on gaf much in the last couple of months. Why were the HZD threads so bad?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Lol GG,lol killzone,lol never made a good game, Ubisoft open world, lol Zelda, etc
ArkhamFantasy
Member
System wars fuel.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I'm terrible with gifs, but is there one of Willem Dafoe grinning and nodding from Spider-Man?
The thing about HZD is that the quality of the game is so high that when it released it silenced pretty much all 'concern trolls' who were posting about it beforehand. Some of the shit people were spewing about that game was some of the pettiest dumbest shit I've ever read (ie the 'Forestgate' guy, the dude criticising the length of Aloy's fingers). But with Andromeda there's a lot of things it does wrong that go beyond poor animation, that it's like the foot never came off the pedal regarding stuff to criticise it over. And then when you have some people going overboard with their jibes and criticism, you're going yo have others who react similarly in defending the game.
We had like 3 threads in 2017 alone, dedicated to saying Horizon would be a failure, and most people in the threads seemed to agree. It was laughable at times, with Ubisoft clone, lol Killzone devs, Sony doesn't have a good track record this gen, being thrown around.
Then we had the preview thread which was a mess on its own, because of the Brom scene being in the preview, and people using that as fuel for the game being bad.
I do think there's been a lot of negatively, but part of it is learning to tune it out or not take it seriously.
Think that's pretty much why shinobi left. That and accusations he's being paid for positive game impressions lol
LiquidSolid
Member
It definitely gets ugly at times and that's usually when I bail out of those threads but I think that while some of them are baseless (see: review threads and the reaction to Jim Sterling's Zelda review), a lot of the time there's a reason behind all the vitriol.
Those Xbox threads are usually created by actual Xbox fans, like Montresor, who are disappointed with the direction Microsoft has gone. Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst reviewed game in Bioware's history (yes, even worse than their Sonic RPG). Hello Games over-hyped and under-delivered. And so on, I could even understand why some would be sceptical of Horizon.
The problem is the internet is a stupid place where everyone has a hot take, hyperbole rules the day, people get joy out of shitposting and no-one considers that people like Molyneux or Murray are actual people. I do feel like it's gotten a bit worse over the last few months though, possibly because bish hung up his ban button.
But having said that, GAF's still a hell of a lot better than 99.9% of the gaming communities on the web.
Personally, I like Shinobi and I know he's a huge Mass Effect fan but it did look dodgy at times the way he was constantly trying to hype it up while clearly having contact with the developers. It's not a good look, especially when the game turned out poorly.
HeisenbergWW62
Banned
DMC5 and a new FROM exclusive will be the bombs methinks
I keep saying it but the fact that a game like Spider-Man PS4 exists, published by Sony and developed by Insomniac, leaves me to believe that pretty much anything is possible at E3. I mean, who would have ever guessed that?
From and DMC5 are great, rational guesses for big announcements at E3 for sure though. Though I worry we're getting to the point that we'll be disappointed if they are NOT announced haha.
HeisenbergWW62
Banned
Something FROM will be announced I think is a safe bet. They work hella fast. Weather it's exclusive or not is the question but that doesn't matter to me, I just want to play it
Oathbreaker
Banned
https://twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/848937868600815616
Seems like he's cooking something bloodfull. Hope they show us gameplay footage at E3.
Seems like he's cooking something bloodfull. Hope they show us gameplay footage at E3.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Even if they did they would still get shown off at Sony. Well at least FF7R
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