Risk Breaker
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And again, they said it wasn't a patent for PS4 and that they wouldn't use it, IIRC.
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Sony PS4 does not require an internet connection. Ever. Seriously. Listen. Read.
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And again, they said it wasn't a patent for PS4 and that they wouldn't use it, IIRC.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Okay but is it in the PS4? There is a long road from having a patent to actually including it in a consumer product this year.
Cause either it has this disc based DRM (which I highly doubt it does) in the console, or they can't really enforce any used game checks without online. I don't see any other options. I think Sony patented it for the future, and it wouldn't shock me if their console after the PS4 has it...but I just doubt they went for it this time.
Sony also seems to have more interest in the international audience outside the USA so this makes sense. I also think that any hard DRM that would cause issues with used games is getting ditched with the PS4. However they may implement the tech for it but as has been said allow publisher to decide if its used or not on a game by game basis.
Doug Heffernan
Member
because Sony never makes false statements or changes policies after misleading everyone...
backwards comp on the PS3 anyone?
backwards comp on the PS3 anyone?
IonicSnake
Banned
I think I'll post this in this thread as well.
From the Xbox One faq.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
What Michael Denny said in the PSM interview.
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/
I don't want to be rude but a person must be dense if they can't see the difference in those statements.
From the Xbox One faq.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa
What Michael Denny said in the PSM interview.
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/
I don't want to be rude but a person must be dense if they can't see the difference in those statements.
H_Prestige
Banned
It almost sounds like any other console, so that can't be the true story. Someone needs to get to the bottom of this.
Majmun
Member
I can't believe people didn't read the OP after seeing that topic title...
And I haven't seen some of those articles before. Reading them kinda confirms that Ps4 won't require an internet connection.
I'm not getting this always online thing anyway. I guess it's for drm reasons, but you're also underestimating the amount of consumers that don't have an internet connection. That's a lot of missed sales.
And I haven't seen some of those articles before. Reading them kinda confirms that Ps4 won't require an internet connection.
I'm not getting this always online thing anyway. I guess it's for drm reasons, but you're also underestimating the amount of consumers that don't have an internet connection. That's a lot of missed sales.
I truly had no idea you were such an MS fan, you hide it pretty well in the NFL thread.
badcrumble
Member
It's not logic, your facts are wrong. The Xbox One cannot be used if you don't have an internet connection, because it'll shut off after 24 hours.
Dead Prince
Banned
it's probably adam orth.
I used my imagination. What it would be like to own a XBONE. What it would be like to play it offline? Competely cut out of internet?
I'm not planning on buying one. Connection required every 24 hour for a console? Get the fuck out of here.
Of course it can be used if you don't have an internet connection. Just not over the 24h limit. Maybe we should draw a line between not ever having access to internet and having access to internet temporarily blocked.
You can´t play your Xbone without an internet connection at all.
You can use your PS4 without an internet connection.
Tada.
Risk Breaker
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Brad Grenz
Member
You can play PS4 games even if it has never been connected to the internet. If you never connect an Xbox One to the internet it is just a very expensive Blu-ray player.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
Banned
The patent is from many years ago. Now is the future. Whether or not they're using it no one but them knows.
Dude...dude...are you really defending the XBONE's 24 hour "check in" feature?
If you go offline for over 24 hours you will be locked out of your games. At least this is the only logical conclusion I can draw from MS's statements.
oldtimegamer007
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I wonder how third parties will react to console choice..one gives them profit on used games...the other doesn't. And I'm not talking about EA and Activision ignoring the Wii U. But yeah I think it will be similar.
He's mocking the people who are I believe.
Maybe. I hope so. I guess that's kind of still up for debate for a good week or so, eh?
Of course we'll all be online. But that isn't the point. The topic is about whether Sony will be implementing no used games or online DRM with Ps4. If they support offline play then by extension they can't rely on an Internet connection and therefore cannot use online based DRM.
haha H_Prestige is just going all-in hard on the biting sarcasm. Trust me, he does not support Xbox One's draconian anti-consumer policies
Broadbandito
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Good news is good
Phoenician_Viking
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For god´s sake man, don´t give them ideas.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Denial sure does. Ever since the Xbox One reveal, the stupidity from that side of the field has skyrocketed.
sarcasm
paparazzo
Member
Man, console warz are the best.
I guess there is one possible scenario for the DRM stuff... Sony might require you to connect to the internet just once for every game, but after that you never have to connect again.
I'm really trying hard stretching credulity to try to see from the perspective of the cynics here, so ignore me if the scenario is as ridiculous as it seems after reading the quotes in the OP
I'm really trying hard stretching credulity to try to see from the perspective of the cynics here, so ignore me if the scenario is as ridiculous as it seems after reading the quotes in the OP
Exactly, which is why i was confused lol.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
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This is a weird argument. If I'm required to connect to the internet once a day, then I might as well be forced to be connected 24/7, because it still translates into me not being able to take my Xbox on military deployment, on vacation, to Europe etc etc. IMO Microsoft will alter the time limit from 24 hours to something more reasonable like a month.
The DRM existed before the Internet (remember those one-use floppies, or serial dongles? Granted, floppies were mostly inefficient)...
And prepaid phone cards are mostly DRM devices...
I don't see why you couldn't have DRM without a connection. You just have to put a hardware thingy that is flagged with your account when you use the game for the first time, and is require for any further installation.
I would be REALLY complex to create a DRM that would allow game sharing on consoles you own but not resale without online connexions at all (and probably not perfect), but it could be done technically.
Did you actually read the OP? Please put your bias aside for one moment and try and gauge the differences with logic and understanding.
Microsoft - The console is not always online, but does need to be connected to the internet every so often in order to be able to play games, the last figure was every 24 hours, though this is still up for change. In other words, it's not always connected but does need an internet connection to function.
Sony - The console does not need the internet at all to function or play games
At least the above is what can be surmised from the OP.
TheJollyCorner
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If you aren't online, then you aren't buying premium DLC etc. basically you aren't worth caring about
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Thank you. Even in the USA, there are several areas where the internet infrastructure is terrible. We are nowhere near the point where an online requirement for a console would be a triviality.
Well I'm one step closer to getting a PS4 now, that's for sure.
Even though I strongly dislike Sony and certain things they have done in the past.
That being said, I strongly dislike Microsoft as well, yet that didn't keep me from loving my 360s as much as I do.
So far for me: Sony:1 Microsoft:0
Lets hope they can score an equilizer at E3 and do away with this always online/DRM nonesense once and for all.
Even though I strongly dislike Sony and certain things they have done in the past.
That being said, I strongly dislike Microsoft as well, yet that didn't keep me from loving my 360s as much as I do.
So far for me: Sony:1 Microsoft:0
Lets hope they can score an equilizer at E3 and do away with this always online/DRM nonesense once and for all.
soulassssns
Banned
Is this the part where I say cool then move on to other more important things in life?
mangochutney
Member
There are different types of DRM.
These days DRM seems to be associated with the notion of some kind of internet callback being involved or the likes of Diablo or Sim City style DRM.
But traditional DRM, something to prevent you copying games has been around for donkeys years. Pretty much every PC game and PS3 and 360 games all have DRM right now, but just to make it difficult for you to make a copy of them, not to control who, what, why when and how the game is played.
The important distinction is that across the games that publishers pushing for this are making, the DRM will be effectively the same between consoles.
No.
Like I have stated many times. You are comparing statements from different time periods. With XBONE we know about it's online. We know that XBOX Gold still exist. We know of DRM. We even know in-depth details about their XBOX Gold deal going to this generation.
Do we really know these details about PS4? Or could it be that statements regarding these two consoles aren't completely comparable? Because officially they have talked in detail about different aspects. For example Sony has been pretty in-depth about their indie program. Microsoft (if they're having one that is) haven't been so generous with details on the subject so far. So that's why I wouldn't compare these aspects just yet.
Brad Grenz
Member
Only if you are so stupid or biased you refuse to acknowledge very clear policy statements from Sony on the topic.
That's only a thing on the Xbone because Microsoft requires every game to be installed the hdd, right? The disc is just a delivery device for the digital content.
If Sony are doing it like they've always done then it could work by a) reading the disc like every console for the past 15 years or b) like the 360 where you can install it and it checks the disc at boot to make sure you actually own the game but then just loads it off the hdd. Neither of those require an internet connection