Going by early promises, I'd say every gen's underdelivered post NES.ToxicAdam said:This gen has definitely underdelivered, no doubt about it.
That spoiler doesn't support your complaints in the least though - because all the tech-demos made up to look like games ended up released, AND all of them looked better then their respective demos.Chittagong said:It's interesting that the model of this actually comes from the enormously successful Dreamcast spoiler tactic.
ToxicAdam said:This gen has definitely underdelivered, no doubt about it.
Much better. :lolgcubed said:ok, heres the fucking argument...
LIFE
Get this 10 year old emo bullshit out of here. Companies overpromies and underdeliver ALL THE TIME. EVERYWHERE. If you arent out in the real world yet, get used to it now, or you'll be stuck in your mothers basement for the rest of your life.
Again, dodgeball could have fixed all this
Are you kidding? The N64 overhype nearly killed them, and there was an epic backlash later on after the GCN FMV, though it was more Zelda oriented... like your PS2 example, FMV stuff like Metroid generally hit the targets (or came reasonably close enough that none cared), and some of the demos (F5 Star Wars) were already realtime anyway.Fafalada said:Though I have to ask - what is so shady about hw mockups and FMV "techdemos"? Nintendo launched two consoles that way, and people never called them on it.
Zedsdeadbaby said:Krazy Ken Kutaragi
I think it was in the same speech where he said people would get two jobs for it, or something.
edit: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ps3-120fps,1654.html
I think N64 and PS2 were mirror images of hype and promise, even if their outcomes weren't. The PS3 snowjob wasn't near as bad as either though imo, and nobody really seemed to fall for it anyway.lawblob said:I think Nintendo's hyping of the Ultra 64 still beats anything Sony has done.
minus_273 said:i guess you can throw 4-D gaming on the ps3 and jacking into the matrix in there too as crazy FUD. At least the latter is coming out 8 years later ... sort of.
Nintendo didn't make Rev Limit, that was from Seta.iidesuyo said:GT Mobile is the Rev Unlimited of the 2000's.
Haunted One said:This is lying.
someone had to
jarrod said:Going by early promises, I'd say every gen's underdelivered post NES.
This gen's still pretty great though.
jarrod said:Nintendo didn't make Rev Limit, that was from Seta.
Handhelds this gen have really taken it to the next level. Last gen was just Advance Wars (still awesome) and SNES portz.ToxicAdam said:No way. Last generation delivered. Tons of games, new genres, handhelds taking it to the next level, aggressive pricing to push consumer demand, etc etc.
This gen has been about very few AAA games, milking their dwindling fanbase for every dollar and hardware failures.
Son of Godzilla said:lol @ this thread. That some of ya'll can't see the difference between mindless pr blather that everyone fucking does and trying to pass off pipe dream tech demos as actual footage is hilarious. Sony didn't just ruin their own credibility with this shit, they've killed the entire industry's.
It was officially canceled in 2000 iirc. If GT mobile gets the axe this year, then it works. :loliidesuyo said:Yes but it's that racing game that never got officially canned.
gcubed said:oh, woe is me... your feigned hurt feelings and self righteousness that you "deserve" better is what hilarious in this thread
Spiegel said:Sony, the masters of spoiling the party
WaveRace: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri1Q5dh_Yvs
Wiimote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tXgjYqpbhM
Rebirth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylyXEMPaVHQ
Iwata: "You will say wow with the graphics" "Mario and Smash launch titles"
But yeah, Sony are the masters.
It'd make more sense for them to get another team/studio to do it already. Then again given PDs history that would have made more sense back in 2004 as well and obviously someone was pigheaded.jarrod said:It was officially canceled in 2000 iirc. If GT mobile gets the axe this year, then it works. :lol
gcubed said:ok, heres the fucking argument...
LIFE
Get this 10 year old emo bullshit out of here. Companies overpromies and underdeliver ALL THE TIME. EVERYWHERE. If you arent out in the real world yet, get used to it now, or you'll be stuck in your mothers basement for the rest of your life.
Son of Godzilla said:Sony didn't just ruin their own credibility with this shit, they've killed the entire industry's.
Yes.sykoex said:Why all the damage control? Is he not stating facts?
jarrod said:Someone in regards to PS2 was the source of the "Toy Story 2" comment iirc. I'm not sure if it was from SCE, but it wasn't from MGS and it wasn't concerning Xbox.
And, uh, what debacle with Twilight Princess? That it was head and shoulders ahead of anything the competition launched with quality wise?
"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"
PnCIa said:It´s called misinformation. Every big company is doing it, although Sony is definitely doing it wrong.
theBishop said:This post made me experience The Zen of Gaming.
jay said:Why do you assume everything is equal? Why would all companies everywhere overpromise and underdeliver exactly the same? That seems far less likely than some companies doing it more than others and some even egregiously so.
This is the status quo, "nothing to see here, everything is always fine" kind of position I mentioned last page. I have no evidence one way or another but just the idea that everything isn't identical offends some people. God forbid we discuss some video game companies on a gaming forum.
hc2 said:I have all three consoles- the PS3 and Wii have a fine coat of dust on them as I look at them. The 360 is still warm. All three are launch buys. All three have had no mechanical problems. It just seems with Live and the game line-up, the 360 gets used 95% of the time. If the one I have failed, I would buy another. I am not sure I would do the same if the PS3 or Wii failed.
And as far as pre-release hype goes. the proof is in the pudding-SALES. The 360 and Wii are making money for their respective manufacturers. As far as I can tell, Sony is still losing money on their console (going by various posts and news items in various places). So what did they gain?
jay said:Why do you assume everything is equal? Why would all companies everywhere overpromise and underdeliver exactly the same? That seems far less likely than some companies doing it more than others and some even egregiously so.
This is the status quo, "nothing to see here, everything is always fine" kind of position I mentioned last page. I have no evidence one way or another but just the idea that everything isn't identical offends some people. God forbid we discuss some video game companies on a gaming forum.
RR7 was weird upscaled 1080 x 900 like Lair, no?Metalmurphy said:RR7 and SSHD say Hi!