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Spencer: Black Tusk E3 '13 teaser was "a concept piece", not a in-dev game
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Miles Quaritch
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It's going to be a clusterfuck that will eclipse that of 343i with Halo 4.
MS are making the wrong decision by rushing into development. There's maybe a few drops of milk to extracted from the Gears udders, but they needed to be much smarter and take some risks...neither of which they'll be doing and it's going to end with Gears becoming a joke franchise that will end up being a weight around Black Tusk's and MS' neck...
Miles Quaritch
Member
Boy am I glad that project is done for. The gun trigger is moving by itself before the finger moves.
TBH Spencer saying that what we saw at E3 was never a game and Black Tusk stating that they were working on a game at the time of E3 don't contradict themselfs. Both could be true.
Dude, come on. There's nothing to spin here. MS have shelved a promising stealth IP for one that's in decline. It's short sighted and it's going to blow up in their faces.
You and me both, brother...
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
So much potential... 
I love Gears but that E3 trailer gave me such hope for a good stealth game.
I love Gears but that E3 trailer gave me such hope for a good stealth game.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I think you're stretching things, but I can see why you are upset. Also, stealth games are not great sellers lately. The latest Splinter Cell was a bomb financially even though it's supposedly a pretty good game if I recall.
I'm sure a few are probably sending out their resumes right now.
So what? The average consumer has no idea who is developing these games, and I suspect has no conception of the difference between "mainline" and offshoot (particularly when the offshoot has similar cast members).
Blame Judgment's poor sales on the marketing budget or the fact that it was a spring release. Or the fact that it was barely even 18 months after GOW3 was released. I honestly don't think people turned their noses up at it for being a side story.
Damn that sucks. Could have been a cool new ip instead we get more gears. MS has to stop being so risk averse if they want to turn things around.
SEGAvangelist
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I turned my nose up at it. I still haven't played it. Maybe when it's even cheaper I'll get it, but knowing that it was a side-story that didn't come after the events of GoW3, PCF was behind it, and that the multiplayer was underdeveloped... why would I buy it full price?
Zombie James
Banned
After reading about how MS treated Rare after buying them, and now shutting down a promising new IP from a new studio in favour of a 5th sequel... ugh, MS needs new management, badly.
edit: AngryMoth pretty much said the same thing. Horrible decision-making by MS.
dragonelite
Member
Wonders how far along black tusk was on the spy game.
Or how far they are right now with gears, im not even sure if i want an Gears singleplayer.
But i would love an Gears multiplayer only game tho. I would even accept microtransaction for skins and double currency earning to buy skins if they just keep it at skins.
I think the ip has enough characters and possible skins to make it like a moba but with the traditional gears multiplayer pump in an ELO division ranking give away special skins after a season is over.
Some times a story has been told. The moba model might only take a small team to make it happen. And the rest could cultivate the new IP further.
Or how far they are right now with gears, im not even sure if i want an Gears singleplayer.
But i would love an Gears multiplayer only game tho. I would even accept microtransaction for skins and double currency earning to buy skins if they just keep it at skins.
I think the ip has enough characters and possible skins to make it like a moba but with the traditional gears multiplayer pump in an ELO division ranking give away special skins after a season is over.
Some times a story has been told. The moba model might only take a small team to make it happen. And the rest could cultivate the new IP further.
Elginer
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I'm sure they will. Black Tusk might as well be renamed Gear Studio.
Miles Quaritch
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Blacklist wasn't really marketed all that much and it was coming off the incredibly disappointing Conviction. It's no wonder it bombed...
A new stealth IP that caters to the hardcore could have been incredible and a possible breakout success, especially at a time when there's no stealth games targeting that audience...
MS is absolutely shameless to say such an obvious lie like this...no respect for the consumer
This sucks..I was hoping with the XBone MS will go all out with big new IPs and break away from the forza/fable/halo/gears rinse repeat cycle a bit. Looks like that's exactly what's going to happen with a few other exclusives here and there..just like last gen. For shame.
This also ensures that we won't be seeing a game from Black Tusk for a good long while. I'm guessing earliest Fall 2015 now.
This sucks..I was hoping with the XBone MS will go all out with big new IPs and break away from the forza/fable/halo/gears rinse repeat cycle a bit. Looks like that's exactly what's going to happen with a few other exclusives here and there..just like last gen. For shame.
This also ensures that we won't be seeing a game from Black Tusk for a good long while. I'm guessing earliest Fall 2015 now.
I expect a rename as well. Something Gears related.
Steverulez
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They're still looking for a lead writer
To bring their "next big IP to life" and was posted only 2 weeks ago...
I meannnnn you can prefer the stealth game but come on. This is some projecting.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Wretches entertainment.
Perhaps, but it is short sighted to shelve a promising new IP in favour of one that's in decline...
yankeehater
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How can anyone know it will blow up in their faces? Maybe BT does a great job with Gears and MS decides to let them hire more staff and have a 2nd team work on the original game? Or maybe the original game wasnt looking good and they decided to scrap it and having them work on Gears was a way to keep the studio open. Sucks we never get to know all the behind the scenes stuff, but it seem premature to say that this is going to blow up in their faces.
I'm not really sure how we can tag anything that's only been seen as a concept video with no real gameplay shown as "promising"
I'd rather see them do something new, but I don't know why people are acting like we really know anything at all about what they were working on.
Miles Quaritch
Member
We have insider claiming the game was good and it's pretty obvious this decision to put BT on Gears was done in a rush so as they have a new one by 2015.
It's Halo 4/343i all over again.
As mentioned, we have some insider news that it was good. So there's that and the trailer itself showed a lot of potential and promise...
ramuh
Member
I hope this happens, as I love new IPs. I just hope their developers can still work on this new IP on the side. I imagine that some of the developers and artists etc. where hired on the basis they would be building an "exciting" new IP, and not be told to drop everything and build a game on an old IP. Maybe this Gears game will be a reboot or something.
How about "Brown Thumbs" since according to Spencer they made no progress on a new IP over the past 9 months
Just COGS in the Machine
Can't really blame MS for this decision. There was just no chance that the spygame would have sold anywhere near what a Gears of War 4 (no spinoff Judgment crap) will sell. It's just too much risk for little to no gain for a smart corporation like MS.
New IP and all new assets = expensive
Well known and loved IP and brushing up old assets = inexpensive with little risk and almost guaranteed large rewards.
New IP and all new assets = expensive
Well known and loved IP and brushing up old assets = inexpensive with little risk and almost guaranteed large rewards.
Honey Bunny
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The Gears of War
SwiftDeath
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The War of Gears. Imagine Gears had to fight other humans at some point in the past
Seems like Gears of War 4 would be the low risk option for the mass market regardless of story. Especially with the recent subtitled name falling short of expectations, they'll want to project a new game as a big deal and core numbered entries are a way to do that. Whatever marketing says likely goes, as cynical as that might be.
Genuinely soul crushing; out with the new, in with the old. Not the path to changing fortunes in my opinion, but it is what it is. Nothing gonna change this now
At least I can still anticipate Sunset Overdrive. That looks crazy good
I want to anticipate Quantum Break, but Alan Wake was one of the biggest disappointments of last gen for me (it was one of the reasons I got a 360 before I had a gaming level PC), so I'm gonna be a bit more careful with my hype. Plus the TV thing makes me "eh"
At least I can still anticipate Sunset Overdrive. That looks crazy good
I want to anticipate Quantum Break, but Alan Wake was one of the biggest disappointments of last gen for me (it was one of the reasons I got a 360 before I had a gaming level PC), so I'm gonna be a bit more careful with my hype. Plus the TV thing makes me "eh"
Genuinely soul crushing; out with the new, in with the old. Not the path to changing fortunes in my opinion, but it is what it is. Nothing gonna change this now
At least I can still anticipate Sunset Overdrive. That looks crazy good
I want to anticipate Quantum Break, but Alan Wake was one of the biggest disappointments of last gen for me (it was one of the reasons I got a 360 before I had a gaming level PC), so I'm gonna be a bit more careful with my hype. Plus the TV thing makes me "eh"
Did they release any gameplay or cut scene? I can't believe I missed it
So Phil 'smug face' Spencer caught lying again. Sucks for Black Tusk after all the work they must have put into the new IP.
Would have been way more interested in the new spy game instead of more Gears. Why not get another studio up for Gears or contract somebody?
Microsoft keeps on doing the wrong decisions in my opinion and my interest in getting the Xbone now pretty much relies on Quantum Break.
Would have been way more interested in the new spy game instead of more Gears. Why not get another studio up for Gears or contract somebody?
Microsoft keeps on doing the wrong decisions in my opinion and my interest in getting the Xbone now pretty much relies on Quantum Break.
Green Yoshi
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I think Microsoft didn't realize that their audience grew older in the last eight years. I'm not a teenager anymore, I don't need a new Gears of War.
Japanmanx3
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I thought this was known that it was a tech demo...that's how they introduced it at e3 right?
sweetvar26
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As far as I can remember, it was projected as a future project from Black Tusk studios in the earlier stages of development.
Goodacre0081
Member
if the game tanks they wont be.
SwiftDeath
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Cross-posting a relevant post
Not working on an existing franchise = New IP =/= Gears of war
I say "looks" in terms of its insane over-the-top colorful art direction and its reported wild gameplay, obviously we don't yet know how close the final game will look to its unveiling video demo.
toxiichollow
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I asked this the the other thread, but one answered.
Was the game black tusk working on cancelled, or put on hold?
Was the game black tusk working on cancelled, or put on hold?
SwiftDeath
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=758995
Definitely put on hold as the best case scenario. I think it's likely canned tbh but I'm a bit of a pessimist
read the OP. spencer claims it was never an actual game. all signs point to it being cancelled, if it really was a game. it doesn't mean they won't visit it in the future, but don't get your hopes up.