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Splatoon developer explains reason for lack of voice chat and more
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TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I'm sure(almost) it will be usable online.
haha, I often wonder how much you will stand out with it on and will it be colored enough to know it's someone on your team as it's pretty different.
ChosenPredator
Banned
this makes me wonder about the next nintendo console or handheld system if their still going to be this sort of way while there is all sorts of different methods they can probably innovate with to make the voice experience more nintendo friendly
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Gotta give props to Nintendo for even rounding these young guns like this. The culture there will be implanted in your head to work there. Yes I spun this shit around somewhat.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Content is locked behind ALL Amiibo, this is nothing new.
This just happens to be a bit meatier than the rest.
If Amiibos were in strong supply, I wouldn't have a problem with it but they aren't.
PadWarrior
Member
That Squid Amiibo is going to be really hunted.
Poimandres
Member
Having no voice chat basically caps the skill level. It means it's practically impossible to have any kind of meaningful team work.
I'm more of a run and gun kind of guy anyway, so doesn't bother me too much but I do think it's a bad decision.
I'm more of a run and gun kind of guy anyway, so doesn't bother me too much but I do think it's a bad decision.
Oh, so this gear probably makes the costumes we've seen then.
I'm pretty sure more people are going to use the schoolgirl outfit.
:3c
BananasWithGuns
Member
Pretty much par for the course for Nintendo unfortunately. Considering their track record I think it's lucky that it even has online multiplayer at all.
There's a difference between small content added in post-launch updates (Mario Kart 8 costumes, for example) and big chunks of on-disc content though. I think Amiibo use should be more like Mario Kart 8 and less like it is in Splatoon.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
All I want is the 3-pack and I won't care about any other Amiibos down the road.
I won't lie and say "I'm out of the game" but this game is important to me as it looks totally badass and the content with the Amiibos is pretty cool.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Then if the content is weak, you'll hear "Amiibos are stupid and worthless".
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I wouldn't have a problem with decent content included with them if everyone could buy them.
TDLink
Member
They said on the Treehouse stream that the challenges are literally just parts of the single player campaign done with different weapons. That's not really anything. The pieces of equipment are the only actual things locked away, and they seem pretty cosmetic.
The core game is the multiplayer modes. And from what we've seen there is a ton of different equipment available for no additional charge, which actually affects stats.
For the record I am not someone who "spews vitriol" at either Ubisoft or EA.
PadWarrior
Member
Stratostar
Member
Word. Voice chat is a plague on modern gaming, and I always love when developers like Mr. Amano here rightly dismiss it as such.
Junahu
Member
There is unique gameplay in wordless communication. And that gameplay has no language barriers.
I do personally wish there was voice-chat, with friends. But I do not want to have to deal with it in ranked matches, where any or all of my teammates may speak different languages.
As a rule of thumb, if you want to give an incentive for an external product but don't want to have content completely exclusive to it, have that content be unlockable through an extraordinarily difficult different means.
Maybe some sort of multiplayer level requirement to unlock the alternate weapon stages, like 30 for the boy stages (samurai), 35 for the girl stages (school uniform), and 40 for the squid (squiditor).
I'm pulling numbers out of my butt because I have no idea how easy it is to grind it.
Maybe some sort of multiplayer level requirement to unlock the alternate weapon stages, like 30 for the boy stages (samurai), 35 for the girl stages (school uniform), and 40 for the squid (squiditor).
I'm pulling numbers out of my butt because I have no idea how easy it is to grind it.
Exactly.
I mean, it really doesn't make a difference with randoms since MH3G implemented voice chat perfectly and absolutely no one would talk ever, but at least have it as an option for friends.
Yeah, pretty much. It sounds like a lot, but when you break it down, it's pretty minimal. It basically breaks down to three costumes, which is like a fifth of what MK8 will eventually end up with.
The cool thing about Amiibo, and the thing that makes them better than Skylanders and Disney Infinity, is that their existence doesn't bring down games. Normally, you have to either decide between making a damn-near useless figure, or a game that's damn-near useless without figures. Nintendo, however, is a first-party publisher and can instead choose to make their figures do small things across a variety of games. So that way the figures retain value by doing small little things across a selection of games, and the games retain their value by only losing a teeny, tiny chunk of content to the figures.
However, when they start tying big chunks of content to figures, that's when their games start to lose some value, and that's territory I really hope Amiibos don't end up going into.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Unfortunate, but I can totally see where he's coming from. I always turned voice chat off when I played on pubs (which wasn't that often.) I guess people just need to go back to the old way of using Mumble/Teamspeak/Skype. It's not exactly hard to do.
But the ideal solution would be to at least enable voice/group chat with your friends on the Wii U regardless of the game you're playing. Though that's more unlikely than getting it on a game by game basis.
But the ideal solution would be to at least enable voice/group chat with your friends on the Wii U regardless of the game you're playing. Though that's more unlikely than getting it on a game by game basis.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
There's no excuse for a lack of voice chat. If these guys are worried about the 'negativity' surrounding online gaming then why not have a mute button or restrict chat to friends? Yes, you can still use skype or a cell phone but why the heck should I have to do that when the Wii U has chat capabilities? That's not a legitimate counterpoint when options are removed.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's a shame that people can't act human behind computers but that's never going to change.
I'd like an option to use voicechat but this wouldn't be in an issue in a civilized society.
Agreed on all points. It was one of the main reasons for why I had stopped playing online-focused games for both PC & the Xbox 360, as what I've heard was pure poison. And even when I had returned, I had limited my voice communication through Skype & similar services, & only through those who were close friends or people that I knew on NeoGAF.
It already did when the FE characters for Codename S.T.E.A.M were announced.
Those were out of universe, and were completely absent in any form if you chose not to use them. They are an obviously jarring addition that fans of the core aesthetic will not miss.
That said I don't know if you can use them online or not.
Yeah, this is spot on. I let it go for MK8, because to be honest, voice chat wasn't needed fot it, but splatoon? Absolutely voice chat would enhance the experience.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Make chat an optional opt-in sort of thing. Bingo: problem solved. Nintendo is so fucking archaic and backwards sometimes.
AcademicSaucer
Member
If miiverse is anything to go by, a lot of kids have wii us
Yeah, currently suffering through it. No one is friendly in LoL...
Yep. Set the young art team free to do more stuff beyond current Nintendo IPs please.
Piston Hyundai
Member
should've just said "do you see who is publishing this game"
Its still 4 fully functional characters that when bought at the retail price (and rare amiibos are VERY hard to find at retail price) still come at 48 plus tax to complete.
People wouldn't have as much of a problem if they were available for purchase at a cheaper price through the game shop or eShop. That would devalue the amiibos however, which Nintendo obviously doesn't want.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
That's fine if you won't use it but there are millions of players who would like the option.
Theognosis
Member
Voice chat makes video games less personal and more social. I play video games to celebrate solitude and getting rid of terrible voices coming from many people is good news to me. I play video games because I want to be alone, so thank you Nintendo for giving me that privacy.
Now please excuse me while I go back to business and talk to many employees and clients. (I can't wait to play Splatoon.)
Now please excuse me while I go back to business and talk to many employees and clients. (I can't wait to play Splatoon.)
SolarPowered
Member
Did we expect something different from them regarding online chatting?
Ridiculous
Xbox 360 party chat worked well with Mario Kart Wii. It gets tiring having to turn on and use two consoles just to chat, though.
Ridiculous
ZeroGravity
Member
The content wouldn't exist at all if amiibo didn't exist. It's being made for people who buy amiibo.
dragonlife
Member
It's like Nintendo enjoys taking one step forward and two steps back for everything they do.
The option would be nice with friends, at least. It doesn't really matter for me, though, because I rarely use in-game chat even when games support it; I usually go on mumble with friends. Not everyone has a comfortable set-up to support that, though.
The option would be nice with friends, at least. It doesn't really matter for me, though, because I rarely use in-game chat even when games support it; I usually go on mumble with friends. Not everyone has a comfortable set-up to support that, though.
Combat Wombat
Banned
Aren't the Amiibo missions just the same levels from the single player campaign but with a different weapon?