GoodCoffeeJoey
Banned
Nintendo should copy what Destiny did. I'm convinced the chat system in that game was designed to be kid friendly.
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Splatoon developer explains reason for lack of voice chat and more
- Thread starter Oddduck
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Dunno, I feel that for most people that voice chat would be such a deal breaker, either weren't that much interested in the game to begin with or don't even have a WiiU.
Really by all the previews I have seen, rarely are the ones that make a big deal out of it. Got to the point where people didn't talk to each other even if they were next to each other.
I guess the game is easy to understand and fast paced, since you can warp everywhere and have a map to see where you are needed, that voice chat might have been a little redundant?
Really by all the previews I have seen, rarely are the ones that make a big deal out of it. Got to the point where people didn't talk to each other even if they were next to each other.
I guess the game is easy to understand and fast paced, since you can warp everywhere and have a map to see where you are needed, that voice chat might have been a little redundant?
You know, as ridiculous as it is to not have voice chat in Nintendo's online games, it's equally ridiculous to try to join a friend's game. It's cumbersome, and without the ability to instant message friends online on the OS level, or join their games, or invite them from OS level...
...I guess I've just accepted the 'type' of online game nintendo provides. Maybe next-gen...
Combat Wombat
Banned
Alright thanks. Looks like I'm not missing out on anything special if I don't buy the Inkling Amiibos then.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Zero²;159402970 said:
For practical purposes it doesn't seem that important, yes. And it's not like the game was designed with voice chat in mind.
But you have to acknowledge it's more fun to actually talk with at least the friends you're playing with. I can understand not liking the general tone of most public servers, but I still like my friends.
LordBaztion
Member
couldn't this be turned off in parental settings?
Zero²;159402970 said:
I donno. For me I'm worried because there was another online shooter that was really kid friendly, had an awesome online system, was super fun and just really unique. I played its online maybe twice because not having a way to communicate with who I was playing with got boring. That game's name? Kid Icarus Uprising. I'm afraid this is gonna be the same situation. Game that looks great and is great, but gets boring because the lack of communication gives it an unintended skill cap.
I'm more than aware of that. Just noting it makes no difference to me personally. Wanting voice chat is a legitimate desire, so I get where you're coming from. My antisocial ass doesn't really care though, making Splatoon cater to me lol.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
...and it was made.
Ehhh, they'll probably get it right in the system after NX.
Hyrule Warrior
Member
Yeeeaahh....I'm really inclined to think this is true also. The Wii U has sold poorly, but you can bet the people who have bought are the people who are enthusiastic about Nintendo games, who are often 20+...just look at who Amiibos sell to.
Nah. Not in this title, this is effectively MK8 Amiibo with the added caveat of "play level X using only your ears".
Why not give people the choice? We have mute buttons in-game and on microphones these days. Even just setting chat mute on default would go a long way.
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Xpike
Unconfirmed Member
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Here's a few other notes:
- A note mentions that one of the pairs of shoes available changes color to match the Inkling you've created
- The article mentions one of the challenges for the girl inlking Amiibo might be completing a stage in a certain time limit
- Nintendo is testing the game internally and there are frequent "quarrels" between team members discussing which weapon is stronger in certain situations
- They spent two hours talking about how long it should take the grenades to explode
- Amano and Sakaguchi have been been thinking about the game so much that they've been dreaming about it. Sakaguchi actually dreamed that he asked one of the programmers on the team to come up with something and the programmer in his dream implemented it and showed it to Sakaguchi. Sakaguchi loved the idea. He had that programmer (in real life) put it in the game the next day!
- A note mentions that one of the pairs of shoes available changes color to match the Inkling you've created
- The article mentions one of the challenges for the girl inlking Amiibo might be completing a stage in a certain time limit
- Nintendo is testing the game internally and there are frequent "quarrels" between team members discussing which weapon is stronger in certain situations
- They spent two hours talking about how long it should take the grenades to explode
- Amano and Sakaguchi have been been thinking about the game so much that they've been dreaming about it. Sakaguchi actually dreamed that he asked one of the programmers on the team to come up with something and the programmer in his dream implemented it and showed it to Sakaguchi. Sakaguchi loved the idea. He had that programmer (in real life) put it in the game the next day!
Thanks! I will add this to the OP.
dragonfart28
Banned
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Because the devs didn't think it added anything positive to the game. If people want to talk to their teammates there are tons of ways to do so. Fuck, nine times out of ten I just put my phone on speaker to play online with my buddy because setting up the headsets is a PITA...not really going to miss it.
Nintendo doesn't even have an official headset for the U anyways, just licensed ones.
I wish there was voice chat with friends. But I agree voice chat with random strangers sucks a lot.
Some games like Monster Hunter really benefit by having voice chat in there games (still waiting on that Wii U port so I can have voice chat Capcom.) While games like Call of Duty don't really need it because your just screaming at each other that you killed them, someone sucks, or your so good you must be cheating.
Some games like Monster Hunter really benefit by having voice chat in there games (still waiting on that Wii U port so I can have voice chat Capcom.) While games like Call of Duty don't really need it because your just screaming at each other that you killed them, someone sucks, or your so good you must be cheating.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
The gamepad has a mic built in.
You'd be better off shouting out your window than using that mic.
If I want to meet other Splatoon players online, it would be cool if I had the chance to talk to them first. Skype or Steam chat is only going to work with people I already know.
Yes, this is a deal breaker for me, the Wii U already doesn't have parties, or a messaging system that has onscreen notifications.
It doesn't end with this game, Devil's Third and Xenoblade have huge online components, if those games don't have voice chat online either, then I'm out. I can respect the decision of no voice chat, but I can choose not to buy the game, I'm not surprised, however.
Playing Smash with friends online who don't use PS4/Skype/Xbox Chat, or whatever, is a pain. They're online, but I can't send them a message that they will see, too bad.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Yup. Great for Game & Wario shenanigans and basically nothing else.
SolarPowered
Member
I don't want to accept it because it is also annoying for the electric bills. Nintendo makes low wattage consoles, but having to use an MS/Sony console (sold my tablet and I don't want to accidentally drop my phone) means I'm using 130+ watts just to chat with friends. It turns out proper online gaming on a Nintendo console is more wasteful than on the other two machines which is just silly lol.
Well I dont think comparing KI:U to Splatoon is fair, specially since online is way better designed in Splatoon than Kid Icarus, its a multiplayer focused game vs a single player focused one. It's like comparing orange to apples.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
I realize that, and it's a poor line of thinking deserving of criticism.
I don't see how putting optional voice chat in, even if it's turned off by default, is not something that is a positive addition to the game.
It worked fine in MH3U.
Maybe I'm being stupid here but I don't really see the point in an online game without some form of chat. I mean, if they worked on AI instead of netcode, the result would be functionally very similar, except bots wouldn't require you to have an internet connection. I suppose you could argue that the knowledge that you're playing against a human is important, but I dunno, it just dulls the hype alittle.
Zombegoast
Member
I never use voice chat outside CSGO and would just mute everyone else in other games except maybe Monster Hunter. I just don't want to deal with annoying little kids or people who uses voice masking
Dr. Black Jack
Member
It opens up an avenue for abusive behavior and diverts development resources from the rest of the game.
There is no OS-level party chat system on the Wii U, so dem's da breaks.
The Xtortionist
Member
Does the game have have a Halo-style party system so I can invite friends and go into matchmaking with a team?
SinCityAssassin
Member
Most FPS games I play over multiplayer I chat over skype anyhow, because most of the in-game voice chat quality I've encountered is shit.
We don't know yet, which is worrisome.
I expect a Splatoon Direct sometime in May.
block tower
Member
voice chat in a multiplayer game in 2015 is a MUST. go take that L Splatoon devs. what bullshit spin.
EDIT: smh at people in this thread making excuses for the lack of voice chat.
EDIT: smh at people in this thread making excuses for the lack of voice chat.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Sounds like a pain in the ass. So now I can't listen to game audio and chat audio through my headphones. And I'd need to keep a device like my PC near my Wii U.
Not practical.
Smash and Mario Kart 8 have lobby voice chat using the Wii U microphone.
I agree, but maybe they thought it was better off and tried to make something that could be played completely without it?
Splatoon is hardly a normal tps as it is, so I can't blame them for trying, even if it doesn't pay off at the end.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Mic is there for the levels in Super Mario 3D World where you have to blow at the screen to drive a propeller.
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate does. Smash and Mario Kart 8 too, but you can't chat during matches/races.