Arcblade said:Why does Japan think that we want sequels to the game with the single worst cast of character to disgrace a JRPG since Beyond Beyond?
Riposte said:Are you trying to maximize your posts to gain full member status?
Reveirg said:At this point, is there any chance FFXV is being developped by another team?
Is anyone familiar with S-E's developement teams structure? Do we know if everyone is busy?
-Nomura's team is on Versus XIII
-Toriyama's is on FFXIII-2 and MAYBE XIII-3 after.
-I believe there's an Osaka team working on KH3D?
-FFXI's team is still working on XIV, Minagawa being part of it too.
Where's the remnants of the XII team? Where's Kawazu? Where's Ito? Do these two still have their own teams?
I'd love to think Ito is on it since he hasn't done anything in a while, as far as I know. But it will probably be the XIII team again, for PS4/NextBox.Reveirg said:At this point, is there any chance FFXV is being developped by another team?
Is anyone familiar with S-E's developement teams structure? Do we know if everyone is busy?
-Nomura's team is on Versus XIII
-Toriyama's is on FFXIII-2 and MAYBE XIII-3 after.
-I believe there's an Osaka team working on KH3D?
-FFXI's team is still working on XIV, Minagawa being part of it too.
Where's the remnants of the XII team? Where's Kawazu? Where's Ito? Do these two still have their own teams?
Anticitizen One said:I thought FF 13 was phenomenal. I hope we get FF XIII-4
Reveirg said:At this point, is there any chance FFXV is being developped by another team?
Is anyone familiar with S-E's developement teams structure? Do we know if everyone is busy?
-Nomura's team (KH, KH2, Advent Children) is on Versus XIII
-Toriyama's team (X-2, XIII) is on FFXIII-2 and MAYBE XIII-3 after.
-I believe there's an Osaka team (KH: BBS?) working on KH3D? What did they work on before?
-FFXI's team is still working on XIV, Minagawa being part of it too.
-Tabata's team (Crisis Core) is working on Type-0
Where's the remnants of the XII team? Where's Kawazu? Where's Ito? Do these two still have their own teams? Which team worked for the Tactics Ogre remake?
Who were responsible for Dissidia?
The GAF hate for the game is so thick I can't even tell who's being sarcastic about it anymore, but if you're not, then I totally agree with you. It's my favorite Final Fantasy and as long as they keep the spirit of the first I would love to play more.Anticitizen One said:I thought FF 13 was phenomenal. I hope we get FF XIII-4
RaijinFY said:Huh? With 2.5m they won't break even... They need to sell at least 4-5m with each episode.
So let me get this straight: you actually think it's more acceptable for a studio to reuse assets from a game to make a completely different game, instead of a direct sequel which is expanding on its world and lore? And what does Wada have to do with this? Smh.immortal-joe said:When devs are talking about re-using assets to speed up development, I always figured they would be talking about taking bits and pieces from one game to use in the creation of a second game from a different series.
These dudes on the other hand, are using the "same assets" to prolong the same fucking series, one which they must know does not receive that much demand, not even in Japan.
Fucking Wada
Perfo said:?
2,5 ml per title in a trilogy it's 7,5 ml in six years, against the 4-5 millions they're doing now from FFXII. Other benifits: less budget to develop, more brand's image. 4-5 I can't see that happening, maybe with the first entry... but with the two sequels you have to halve that (that's the amount I expect from XIII-2). I think they're aiming in creating a business similar to Bioware somehow. It works, why not trying.
Arcblade said:Why does Japan think that we want sequels to the game with the single worst cast of character to disgrace a JRPG since Beyond Beyond?
Man, I'd rather have a sequel to FFVII
Napalm_Frank said:What have you done!
I've always wanted a game were you play as Ultimecia on her rise to what she is in VIII. Would be cool because it could be playing as a villain yet not because of how she is treated on the way up and the game could end right when Squall and comp walk in.Nostalgia~4ever said:they're milking the wrong game.
should of made FFVIII-2 and -3 instead
Lionheart
Kyoufu said:We've had 2 sequels to FFVII already. lol
Rahxephon91 said:Man I really liked the cast of XIII. I thought it was the most well rounded cast Ive seen. Not most memorable or best though.
Zanasea said:So let me get this straight: you actually think it's more acceptable for a studio to reuse assets from a game to make a completely different game, instead of a direct sequel which is expanding on its world and lore? And what does Wada have to do with this? Smh.
Thanks and you're a douchebag.sublimit said:You have a very appropriate tag.
Wada was also the one in chage were they had multpile different games sell a million units across the two handheld platforms as well as the best selling Dragon Quest ever.immortal-joe said:Should have been clearer - when I said bits and pieces I refereed to a lighting model, physics engine; anything that can make the development of another game less costly and more efficient.
Basically I would have wanted them to take the engine they built in FFXIII and create something else with it; anything, but don't stretch out the same series and pretend you were asked to do so.
And as for Wada, he was the man in charge throughout the XIII's cluster-fuck development cycle. He overlooked the birth of their in-house engine to go forward with multi-platform development, and where did that get them???
Rahxephon91 said:Man I really liked the cast of XIII. I thought it was the most well rounded cast Ive seen. Not most memorable or best though.
What is the point of these kinda posts?Verendus said:
TruePrime said:Wada was also the one in chage were they had multpile different games sell a million units across the two handheld platforms as well as the best selling Dragon Quest ever.
No company president doesn't make mistakes in the industry and the fact is the VS Team was moved over to help finish XIII so we know that Wada wasn't pleased with how things were turning out so he did put his foot down.
We don't know whats going on with that. Thing is XIII-2 was announced so quickly and we knew they had a bunch of extra content so with a much reduced time frame for release and not needing an engine to be built it could be very well that it was best to have them go the XIII-2 route.immortal-joe said:I'l give him that - shifting the teams around to focus on FXIII at the time was the right way to go, but I don't see much sense in stretching the series anymore.
How about shifting the teams towards Versus; focus on that console game right now. Meanwhile, you will have plenty of opportunities to gain more success from the portable market.
TruePrime said:What is the point of these kinda posts?
It's clear alot of people disagree, but this shit is stupid.
He isn't the only that liked the cast of XIII and outside of hope I would take them over the majortity of FF casts.
Are you going to post anything beyond dumb .gifs? Not to be a dick or anything but it's frustrating when someoone just says they like XIII and it's followed up by this kinda stuff.Verendus said:
Hey a non argument. I guess I should expect this from the person that stated FFXIII was a failure when it came to the money making busniess and then couldn't actually back up that argument.Verendus said:
TruePrime said:We don't know whats going on with that. Thing is XIII-2 was announced so quickly and we knew they had a bunch of extra content so with a much reduced time frame for release and not needing an engine to be built it could be very well that it was best to have them go the XIII-2 route.
That said once the game is finished Wada might order exactly that kind of senario with them helping on VS, or maybe he won't. I have no idea we will have to wait to see how things go during the next year.
Ito said "please be looking forward to our future games" in an FFXII International ZJS interview. If he really got the boot, he didn't seem to have expected it.RaijinFY said:Getting the boot maybe?
People put way to much stock into the Seven remake idea.immortal-joe said:Maybe some investors were tired of the long dev cycles and wanted to see some return sooner rather than later.
I hate to bring this up, but in a business sense, they really should have just gone with a FFVII remake. Seriously, there was just no possible scenario where that would fail.
I remember Famitsu (or Dengeki) made this survey in Japan back in 07/08 where they asked readers who their favorite character was. Sitting right behind mario at #2 was fucking Cloud Strife - sums it up right there.
Anywho I'l l stop here cause I think this is a topic for another thread.
Honestly I just want Squeenix to start following a more efficient dev cycle that allows for one or two "Bushido Balde" or "Einhader" games for every "Final Fantasy" or "Dragon Quest".
Maybe we should take you back to school and teach you how to comprehend the written word. Shall we define the difference between poorly (relative to its previous entries if I remember the argument you're referring to) and failure? Maybe also teach you context so you actually understand what you read.Rahxephon91 said:Hey a non argument. I guess I should expect this from the person that stated FFXIII was a failure when it came to the money making busniess and then couldn't actually back up that argument.
The thing about your little argument is that your post here has nothing to with anything. When anyone gave an actual reason or explanation that the it wasn't unsuccessful you simply ignored it. No I gave you reasons as to why even if it sold less then x it wasn't a failure and that saying it was poor in relation to others wasn't correct. You simply ignored it. You were wrong then.Verendus said:Maybe we should take you back to school and teach you how to comprehend the written word. Shall we define the difference between poorly (relative to its previous entries if I remember the argument you're referring to) and failure? Maybe also teach you context so you actually understand what you read.
Seriously, let's be blunt here. If you like the cast, then why does it seemingly anger
Rahxephon91
I have bad taste.
He obviously has bad taste.Boney said:So Rahxephon, how'd you get your tag anyways?
what previous FF games had less developed (main) characters? it seems like you're arguing in favor of the cast by just bringing up the fact that they all get enough screen time to make themselves known to the player. i personally saw that as a flaw, the characters are too flat and predictable (and voiced too poorly) to justify being seen so much. you could pretty much pick up on any of these characters by watching a couple youtube videos and yet the game feels it necessary to drum their shallow personalities on you for ~35 hours.Rahxephon91 said:compared to it's peers it is. The characters are all developed and each of their possibly one note presonas seen and explored. They all have development and u learn everything about each character. That is pretty much not true for most games where characters no matter how shallow aren't even developed enough to be one note.
Nostalgia~4ever said:they're milking the wrong game.
should of made FFVIII-2 and -3 instead
Lionheart
I don't know. Lightning felt like Squall with breasts; same broody attitude refusing to let people come close because of a past event, putting down people with any hope and optimism, and then making an unbelievable 180 degree attitude transition sometime during the game.TruePrime said:He isn't the only that liked the cast of XIII and outside of hope I would take them over the majortity of FF casts.
Sazh was by far the most likeable character in the game.Green Mamba said:And the only decent character in FFXIII was Sazh. And that was only when he wasn't doing his stupid "goofy black guy" moments that really didn't fit the mood of the game nor his character.