I wish there was a stat that showed some sort of measurement on the performance of the PCs of these 12 million. I'm not trying to make a point here but I bet most of them are playing at med-low settings.
Theory time: Is it possible that Valve is not working on HL3 because CS:GO is so strong and they don't want to divide the userbase by introducing a new shooter engine?
Theory time: Is it possible that Valve is not working on HL3 because CS:GO is so strong and they don't want to divide the userbase by introducing a new shooter engine?
I agree. I bet a lot of people when they think of PC gaming they think it's the high end graphics cards and AAA games and FPS and pixelz and whatever other words are associated with that but the reality is (and again this is my speculation) the vast majority are people playing on their laptops or shitty PCs on med or low settings. Playing what they can for the cheap prices they got the game.They probably are. The most popular PC games aren't AAA multiplatform games for the most part, they're exclusive PC games that have a low baseline hardware requirement and don't scale that high.
I wish there was a stat that showed some sort of measurement on the performance of the PCs of these 12 million. I'm not trying to make a point here but I bet most of them are playing at med-low settings.
Theory time: Is it possible that Valve is not working on HL3 because CS:GO is so strong and they don't want to divide the userbase by introducing a new shooter engine?
I agree. I bet a lot of people when they think of PC gaming they think it's the high end graphics cards and AAA games and FPS and pixelz and whatever other words are associated with that but the reality is (and again this is my speculation) the vast majority are people playing on their laptops or shitty PCs on med or low settings. Playing what they can for the cheap prices they got the game.
Knowing that, would you say that is "PC Gaming"? Is there only one kind of PC gaming. Is the kind I'm describing sustainable? Etc... I'm not saying it's not I'm just saying it's interesting to think about.
I agree. I bet a lot of people when they think of PC gaming they think it's the high end graphics cards and AAA games and FPS and pixelz and whatever other words are associated with that but the reality is (and again this is my speculation) the vast majority are people playing on their laptops or shitty PCs on med or low settings. Playing what they can for the cheap prices they got the game.
Knowing that, would you say that is "PC Gaming"? Is there only one kind of PC gaming. Is the kind I'm describing sustainable? Etc... I'm not saying it's not I'm just saying it's interesting to think about.
I agree. I bet a lot of people when they think of PC gaming they think it's the high end graphics cards and AAA games and FPS and pixelz and whatever other words are associated with that but the reality is (and again this is my speculation) the vast majority are people playing on their laptops or shitty PCs on med or low settings. Playing what they can for the cheap prices they got the game.
Knowing that, would you say that is "PC Gaming"? Is there only one kind of PC gaming. Is the kind I'm describing sustainable? Etc... I'm not saying it's not I'm just saying it's
interesting to think about.
I just mean from a AAA perspective when I ask if it's sustainable because like I said most of the PCs playing the games are probably not very good and most of the games being played were probably purchased maaaad cheap on some big sales or something.Of course it's sustainable. As people's computers become more powerful naturally, they can play more games without buying dedicated hardware (consoles). In this day and age it's about all-in-one devices. That's why you see the rise of pc gaming and mobile numbers. It goes hand-in-hand with the overall shrinking of the dedicated console and handheld market.
I just mean from a AAA perspective when I ask if it's sustainable because like I said most of the PCs playing the games are probably not very good and most of the games being played were probably purchased maaaad cheap on some big sales or something.
Just guessing. There's no doubt it's sustainable from a non-AAA perspective. It's no different to an app store to me, just with better games and whatnot.
I just mean from a AAA perspective when I ask if it's sustainable because like I said most of the PCs playing the games are probably not very good and most of the games being played were probably purchased maaaad cheap on some big sales or something.
Just guessing. There's no doubt it's sustainable from a non-AAA perspective. It's no different to an app store to me, just with better games and whatnot.
Where is that thread on pc needs to learn from consoles to save pc gaming? This is just steam...not origin...not people just playing games they bought...not warcraft, lol...whatever.
This is people logged in, what does that mean? Do they have numbers that shows how many games are being played actively or is the steam app just open?
Amazing numbers, Gaming is bigger than ever in every single platform wich is amazing to see.
Of course it's sustainable. As people's computers become more powerful naturally, they can play more games without buying dedicated hardware (consoles). In this day and age it's about all-in-one devices. That's why you see the rise of pc gaming and mobile numbers. It goes hand-in-hand with the overall shrinking of the dedicated console and handheld market.
I think at this point it's safe to say it is sustainable, it has been going on for what, 6-7 years now and still growing. It'd be a reasonable argument back when PC gaming was apparently 'dying' in 2005-2007 and it was showing signs of picking back up (when in reality, it was just that AAA segment of the market that was being referred to as 'dying').
PC gaming is attached to the PC industry to me and the PC industry has been trending downward in general the last little while.AAA games are released more consistently on PC than ever before. The sell millions of copies. These questions you have are based on your gut and hunches while actual hard data exists to refute you guesses.
I just mean from a AAA perspective when I ask if it's sustainable because like I said most of the PCs playing the games are probably not very good and most of the games being played were probably purchased maaaad cheap on some big sales or something.
Just guessing. There's no doubt it's sustainable from a non-AAA perspective. It's no different to an app store to me, just with better games and whatnot.
PC gaming is attached to the PC industry to me and the PC industry has been trending downward in general the last little while.
Though I'm sure eventually steam will come to mobile devices and whatnot...
PC gaming is attached to the PC industry to me and the PC industry has been trending downward in general the last little while.
I just mean from a AAA perspective when I ask if it's sustainable because like I said most of the PCs playing the games are probably not very good and most of the games being played were probably purchased maaaad cheap on some big sales or something.
Just guessing. There's no doubt it's sustainable from a non-AAA perspective. It's no different to an app store to me, just with better games and whatnot.
What makes you say that?
Though I'm sure eventually steam will come to mobile devices and whatnot...
Handheld shrinked because of Mobile, pc ain't doing anything to Console business, XBox and Playstation are stronger than ever.
Now Mobile is a real threat, handheld market is in danger.
Seems to be dying even faster now.
Looking at SteamSpy it seems like ~250k people bought it during the sale. That doesn't fully explain it of course.
PCs have just been selling less and less every year the last while. I think the last IDC numbers had it at a 5% drop YoY. Don't get me wrong it's still a shitton of PCs being sold (we're talking 100s of millions) but it's something to consider I guess.What makes you say that?
I agree. I bet a lot of people when they think of PC gaming they think it's the high end graphics cards and AAA games and FPS and pixelz and whatever other words are associated with that but the reality is (and again this is my speculation) the vast majority are people playing on their laptops or shitty PCs on med or low settings. Playing what they can for the cheap prices they got the game.
Knowing that, would you say that is "PC Gaming"? Is there only one kind of PC gaming. Is the kind I'm describing sustainable? Etc... I'm not saying it's not I'm just saying it's interesting to think about.
Great maybe devs should update their games so they work on modern systems *COUGHrockstarCOUGHtecmoCOUGHcapcom*
PCs have just been selling less and less every year the last while. I think the last IDC numbers had it at a 5% drop YoY. Don't get me wrong it's still a shitton of PCs being sold (we're talking 100s of millions) but it's something to consider I guess.
Everybody is on a PC cycle like mentioned above. The amount of people dropping their PCs will only rise as time goes on, probably at a faster rate each and every year. I think IDC actually increased their forecast froma 3% drop to 5% for the year. I don't see that trend stopping any time soon.
PC overall sales are dropping over the years. Gaming PCs and gaming components are selling more and more.PCs have just been selling less and less every year the last while. I think the last IDC numbers had it at a 5% drop YoY. Don't get me wrong it's still a shitton of PCs being sold (we're talking 100s of millions) but it's something to consider I guess.
Everybody is on a PC cycle like mentioned above. The amount of people dropping their PCs will only rise as time goes on, probably at a faster rate each and every year. I think IDC actually increased their forecast froma 3% drop to 5% for the year. I don't see that trend stopping any time soon.
Even me who has a PC that I built and have upgraded myself multiple times a year, I honestly think this will be my last time ever doing it. I'll probably get a laptop next and then eventually by the time that cycle is over everyone will have moved to mobile. Plenty of years out but if I'm at that point I imagine most people are well beyond it.
Where is that thread on pc needs to learn from consoles to save pc gaming? This is just steam...not origin...not people just playing games they bought...not warcraft, lol...whatever.
This is people logged in, what does that mean? Do they have numbers that shows how many games are being played actively or is the steam app just open?
PCs have just been selling less and less every year the last while. I think the last IDC numbers had it at a 5% drop YoY. Don't get me wrong it's still a shitton of PCs being sold (we're talking 100s of millions) but it's something to consider I guess.
Everybody is on a PC cycle like mentioned above. The amount of people dropping their PCs will only rise as time goes on, probably at a faster rate each and every year. I think IDC actually increased their forecast froma 3% drop to 5% for the year. I don't see that trend stopping any time soon.
Even me who has a PC that I built and have upgraded myself multiple times a year, I honestly think this will be my last time ever doing it. I'll probably get a laptop next and then eventually by the time that cycle is over everyone will have moved to mobile. Plenty of years out but if I'm at that point I imagine most people are well beyond it.
I'm talking about games with outdated DRM like Dark Void and Lost Planet.Capcom games don't work on Windows 10? I've had no issues on 8.1.
didn't realise arma 3 had 40k concurrents. mental. what's the most fun way to play it?
PCs have just been selling less and less every year the last while. I think the last IDC numbers had it at a 5% drop YoY. Don't get me wrong it's still a shitton of PCs being sold (we're talking 100s of millions) but it's something to consider I guess.
Everybody is on a PC cycle like mentioned above. The amount of people dropping their PCs will only rise as time goes on, probably at a faster rate each and every year. I think IDC actually increased their forecast froma 3% drop to 5% for the year. I don't see that trend stopping any time soon.
Even me who has a PC that I built and have upgraded myself multiple times a year, I honestly think this will be my last time ever doing it. I'll probably get a laptop next and then eventually by the time that cycle is over everyone will have moved to mobile. Plenty of years out but if I'm at that point I imagine most people are well beyond it.
The "but AAA games cannot be played on toasters" argument is absolutely nuts. There's a huge audience for games that don't need high end rigs to play and there's a constant stream of new games that don't require high end rigs. When people upgrade their toasters to toasters of 2017, they suddenly notice thousands and thousands of older games that they couldn't play on their old toaster.
I am betting that many, MANY companies have a rather healthy cash flow coming in just from having the old catalogue available. PC games don't expire. Old games don't go away when new ones launch. Some of the most popular games are 5 to 10 years old. I bought a bundle made of games released in early 90's just a few weeks ago and I have a rather high end rig.
I wish there was a stat that showed some sort of measurement on the performance of the PCs of these 12 million. I'm not trying to make a point here but I bet most of them are playing at med-low settings.
This is all true but more and more people buy current AAA games as well. So what does that tell us?
How many of those are dummy CS:Go accounts for hacking
The more significant number is surely from old grandmothers who have Steam running in the background without their knowledge.How many of those are dummy CS:Go accounts for hacking
People like video games on their Personal Computers because PC gaming is more accessible than ever?
Dark Souls 1 in 1080p, 60 fps and dedicated servers? shut up and take my money.
Dark Souls 1 in 1080p, 60 fps and dedicated servers? shut up and take my money.