I can't speak for the others, but the reason I give a damn about Nomura's original vision is because it seemed interesting and ambitious on paper, while Tabata...really doesn't have much of a cohesive artistic vision of his own from what I've been able to gather from this whole XV drama. He just seems like the kind of guy who follows instructions and tries to please everybody based on feedback, and while that's not an inherently bad thing he just doesn't give me the same confidence as, say, Hiroyuki Ito or Matsuno. And like I said, Crisis Core and Type-0 gave me no reason at all to believe in him as a director, and while I'm not terribly fond of KH, they're at least better games than the aforementioned works.
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Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3
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I can't speak for the others, but the reason I give a damn about Nomura's original vision is because it seemed interesting and ambitious on paper, while Tabata...really doesn't have much of a cohesive artistic vision of his own from what I've been able to gather from this whole XV drama. He just seems like the kind of guy who follows instructions and tries to please everybody based on feedback, and while that's not an inherently bad thing he just doesn't give me the same confidence as, say, Hiroyuki Ito or Matsuno. And like I said, Crisis Core and Type-0 gave me no reason at all to believe in him as a director, and while I'm not terribly fond of KH, they're at least better games than the aforementioned works.
Has there ever been a game that recovered from being in development hell and turned out good?
Jelly Rajah
Banned
This so much. Persona 5 will blow this game out of the water.
Seven Force
Banned
Team Fortress 2 and Resident Evil 4 come to mind.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It's very profitable. Mobile games and Eidos AAA content doing just fine.
MultiJhonny
Banned
Considering the games they are publishing from western studios and their mobile games. They will be fine. And also Gamescom is literally like a month and a half later at Europe's version of E3.. jeez
Diablohead
Member
Guys wait, I just noticed something.
Stella is still there, I've uncovered the shocking plot twist of the game. Pack it SE!
Or that nearly every FF character in the last X years have all used the same design and everyone looks related.
But E3 generally receives a lot more press and it's weird that they're choosing to ignore it again.
MultiJhonny
Banned
They aren't ignoring it, they addressed the fact that a proper information reveal wouldn't be ready in time nor would an actual trailer.
They're trying to push the game out as fast as they can at this point. I don't even think they have enough ready.
Tabata doesn't even know if the Leviathan sequence is doable.
That was 2 years ago!
Fix The Scientist
Member
This game is an absolute mess.
Arondight
Member
First appearance of Stella has her in single conflict with Noctis, First appearance of Luna is like the opposite of this. Not really surprised about the negativity especially when considering the Cindy designs.
If there's one thing that I'm still looking forward to the most and has shown to be continuously excellent since the first FFvs13 reveal down to the demo, it's the music. If Shimomura drops out, I'm out.
If there's one thing that I'm still looking forward to the most and has shown to be continuously excellent since the first FFvs13 reveal down to the demo, it's the music. If Shimomura drops out, I'm out.
Liquid_015
Gold Member
I believe Tabata mentioned about implementing warping outside of combat, but he said doing so would bug the game out or something.
Exentryk
Member
Yeah, I know. But being able to warp only to dedicated points would be possible to test adequately. Free warping would be difficult.
YankeeDonB
Member
I'm not concerned with Stella v Luna, but the constant updates coupled with the constant changes have unsettled me. Ever since the shift to XV I've been optimistic about this game, and proceeded under the assumption that it was rapidly approaching. But it's feeling increasingly ephemeral outside of Duscae. What do we really know about the rest of the game that we can be confident in? Perhaps things will solidify at Gamescom.
My condolences on the loss of everyone's favorite fan fiction character.
This was incredibly obvious ever since they renamed her.
In other news, has anyone discussed their concept art tease yet? A flashback sequence and the art is giving me Yoshida/FFXII vibes. Yes please.
No. Everyone was too worried ranting about their fan fiction characters getting deleted.
But yeah, that artwork looks truly great. I can't wait to see what scene it belongs to!
Kagari is not part of gaf confirmed
Wrong, project was rebooted in July 2012, coming up to 3 years.
Here's hoping S-E dials it back a little for FFXVI. This game feels like it was an unwieldy, bloated, and unfocused project from the start.
Final Fantasy doesn't need to blow the doors off the genre with every outing. How hard can it be to make a solid turn-based RPG with top-notch art assets? That's what we all really like about FF, isn't it?
Final Fantasy doesn't need to blow the doors off the genre with every outing. How hard can it be to make a solid turn-based RPG with top-notch art assets? That's what we all really like about FF, isn't it?
I wonder if the Dragoon from the original trailers is also gone
They said the Dragoon Lady is still in the game.
Death Penalty
Member
You keep harping on about this but there are plenty of great reasons to be upset with Stella's removal.
I wonder if the Dragoon from the original trailers is also gone
They confirmed yes, and that's just a special enemy type unless they changed that.
In other news, has anyone discussed their concept art tease yet? A flashback sequence and the art is giving me Yoshida/FFXII vibes. Yes please.
Lovely artwork, this and the ones from the end of Duscae demo should prove that the more serious/darker elements have not been scrapped entirely.
sensui-tomo
Member
I wonder if the Dragoon from the original trailers is also gone
Ah its lightning-san come to grace the game
/s
Don't be mean to our queen. She has suffered enough. Her avatar is dead!
What is dead may never die.
But in this case she really is dead.
They said in the video that the female dragoon and the black-haired woman are both still in the game.
I'm honestly unclear on what those are considering we never saw more than a few pieces of the Versus story/characters and we have yet to play the final game. So we're comparing two abstract variables. Get upset if you want, though. I hope the ulcer is worth it.
Besides her design, what are those "great reasons"?
In other news, has anyone discussed their concept art tease yet? A flashback sequence and the art is giving me Yoshida/FFXII vibes. Yes please.
Regis is giving me Dark Lord vibes in this one actually. Love the concept.
My Dark Lord Couldn't Possibly Be This Fatherly - a new prequel light novel for FFXV coming to a bookstore near you!
illmatic22
Banned
I prefer Stella's design over Luna's. Darn.
I liked that scene and the overall tone of the Versus XIII trailers. XV feels like it will differ a bit from what Versus was envisioned to be. But at least it will actually release.
Don't be mean to our queen. She has suffered enough. Her avatar is dead!
She must not be forgotten...like Lightning.
artsi
Member
I wonder if the Dragoon from the original trailers is also gone
My conspiracy theory is still that she's Luna, lol.
I'm in.
A "reboot" doesn't nullify the previous 6 years of development hell.
sensui-tomo
Member
I think they're taking it like how some people took Magus being took out of CC mate, except we learned after the fact.
You talking about the road trip aspect, because that was always in Versus just never properly shown.
A "reboot" doesn't nullify the previous 6 years of development hell.
Most of that time it was lack of development though, it really only went full production in 2011 then got a reboot for next gen.
Ha ha ha! You may be right.
MultiJhonny
Banned
Yeah Stella
That's not how development hell works, mate.