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Steven Universe Season 2 |OT| Obama chuckled. "You mean the Crystal Gems?"
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And with that, I've begun to realize that Steven Universe is one giant Dr. Who reference.
Well, Pearl got a scarf and a hat once for no explained reason and we know there is time travel in the universe. It would be great if there was a reveal showing that Homeworld took so long to get back to earth because they're busy in a war against some Dalek equivalent.
User 73706
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Is every single episode scored uniquely in vein of Batman: TAS? I hope we get a soundtrack at some point.
Take a walk to soundcloud and tumblr. The crew is uploading all the background music and songs.
Speaking of which, we are inching closer and closer to a full ending theme.
Aivi posted Sleep Like You from the Love Like You ending theme.
I always enjoy a third party in shows. One thing down the line that I think could be interesting, and I mean way down the line when we've been to space and back is if introduce another character that is a gem hybrid alien. I have no idea if they will show other worlds colonized by gems, but it could make for an interesting twist.
So happy to see so many of my friends getting into the show. I've seen this Polygon article shared like 6 times on my Facebook timeline already from people who're currently into the show or got curious about it after reading it and are now looking for ways to watch it. I had already managed to get my gf and some co-workers into it, but it seems like the show's popularity is skyrocketing.
Weltall Zero
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Yep, it's a pretty common sci-fi trope, the most common variant being that "outliving their creators" comes from them having enough of being cheap labor (not to mince words: slaves) and going full cylon/geth/Skynet/matrix on their creators. Considering how ruthless Homeworld civilization is and that they're inorganic like most of the examples, I'd say it fits the trope to a tee.
That makes about as much sense as saying that since there are only so many eye/hair/skin colors in humans, we must be mass-produced. Again, we don't even know if two pearls look alike, much like two real-life pearls can look very different.
Tangentially, "our" Pearl's gem is an elongated variant that is more commonly occurring than spherical pearls. Perhaps that's why she is thin and tall? If we get to know another pearl that has a spherical gem, would she be more rotund?
It's awesome how this article was posted right before one of the best examples of "fusion as a metaphor for relationships", i.e. Sardonyx's arc; one person deceiving another to become closer to them out of sheer loneliness. It was kind of heartbreaking at the end when we learn that Pearl deceived Garnet not so much to feel strong, but to feel being part of a loving relationship.
Chezzymann
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its great to have new fans, on the other it could be the 'Jena tower' effect and there could eventually be a backlash against the show and its fans similar to what happened with my little pony
No, not really. I'm saying that there's literally only a few hundred types of gemstones out there. (I think there's about four thousand known minerals in total or so.) For a gem society to exist, you absolutely must have had at least one gem "produced en masse". This could mean multiple Pearls, Rubies, Sapphires, or what have you. The character itself is the gem, not the physical form. The physical form itself could look very different possibly, but that's not even remotely what I'm arguing.
When I say "mass-produced" I don't mean that they're identical copies. I mean that they're the same gem. unless they find a way to have a functioning society with less than a few hundred then you have to have multiple copies of at least one gem.
"Produced" is probably the best word to describe the birth of any sort of gem.
User 73706
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I don't think bronies and gemsies (?) are on the same wavelength. I wouldn't worry about it.
Choppasmith
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Hilarious!
Nah, they're not on the same wave length, that is true, SU fans are horrible in an entirely different way, but still horrible.
Weltall Zero
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I don't understand what that all (which I got the first time) has anything to do with what I'm saying. For all we know "pearl" is a denomination equivalent to "white blonde male". The fact that multiple (millions, even) pearls exist doesn't necessarily mean they must be mass produced. Consider that Earth's actual pearls are, in fact, not artificially produced.
Gumball fans are the absolute worst though.
Gumball fans are the absolute worst though.
I am the absolute worst. I in no way am representative of the rest of the fandom :3
I'd say the fandom is getting to that point with the antics is pulls from time to time.
SigmasonicX
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Dare I ask what "Jena Tower" is?
The Steven Universe fandom is different from the MLP fandom in the following ways:
* The idea of SU having adult fans doesn't cause the same visceral negative reaction that it does for MLP, so there isn't and won't be the same strong blowback.
* The existence of the MLP fandom more or less developed the idea of how online fandoms for cartoons work such that both the SU fandom and the creators had a strong basis to work off of. For instance, SU had tumblr blogs and frequent interactions with the creators from the start.
* The MLP fandom development had some problems that the SU fandom had been making sure to avoid, although at the expense of treating the former as a boogeyman (see the successful attempt to stop Beach City Bugle from starting up the first time). It seems like female fans have made their presence in the SU fandom strong from the start in reaction to the fact that men more or less stole a girls property from them with MLP. I also don't expect that we'll see any large meet-ups just for SU, for instance, due to the perception of tackiness from the MLP meet-ups and the high-profile mess-ups like that one convention in Las Vegas whose name I'm forgetting.
* While MLP had to start out on 4chan and other message boards by necessity, SU exists in a world where tumblr and reddit are more popular alternatives. This may just be my imagination, but it seems like SU has a stronger female fan presence due to the platforms where the fandom started.
That said, all fandoms develop their own strong negative quirks. Gravity Falls has the proliferation of twincest (Dipper X Mabel), and Steven Universe's thing appears to be having bad aim when choosing targets for social justice swarms.
The Steven Universe fandom is different from the MLP fandom in the following ways:
* The idea of SU having adult fans doesn't cause the same visceral negative reaction that it does for MLP, so there isn't and won't be the same strong blowback.
* The existence of the MLP fandom more or less developed the idea of how online fandoms for cartoons work such that both the SU fandom and the creators had a strong basis to work off of. For instance, SU had tumblr blogs and frequent interactions with the creators from the start.
* The MLP fandom development had some problems that the SU fandom had been making sure to avoid, although at the expense of treating the former as a boogeyman (see the successful attempt to stop Beach City Bugle from starting up the first time). It seems like female fans have made their presence in the SU fandom strong from the start in reaction to the fact that men more or less stole a girls property from them with MLP. I also don't expect that we'll see any large meet-ups just for SU, for instance, due to the perception of tackiness from the MLP meet-ups and the high-profile mess-ups like that one convention in Las Vegas whose name I'm forgetting.
* While MLP had to start out on 4chan and other message boards by necessity, SU exists in a world where tumblr and reddit are more popular alternatives. This may just be my imagination, but it seems like SU has a stronger female fan presence due to the platforms where the fandom started.
That said, all fandoms develop their own strong negative quirks. Gravity Falls has the proliferation of twincest (Dipper X Mabel), and Steven Universe's thing appears to be having bad aim when choosing targets for social justice swarms.
Chezzymann
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I meant Jenga, autocorrect is more harm than good lol. I just need to disable it.
'Mass produced' doesn't necessarily mean 'artificially produced'.
It just means that there were a massive amount of them being produced. How they can be produced can be through whatever means is efficient, be it naturally forming in a planet or on an assembly line, but that still makes them mass-produced.
Azure Dream
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For what it's worth, I was just at a Pony convention last weekend, and there was a a fair bit of Steven Universe stuff around. The SU meetup had a number of people there, and there was even this cosplayer:
Azure Dream
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Yeah, but he had the outfit right, he had the ukulele, the Tiger Millionaire mask, the Cheeseburger Backpack, and he had a stomach gem, but he said it didn't want to stay in, unfortunately.
MisterGrey3000
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Speaking of mass produced Pearls! (which I am so eager to see the show address in full)
I explored that idea with this fan art:
I made the "perfect (round) pearls" sort of Ruby and Sapphire-like in stature due to the fact that Pearl implied she wasn't built for fighting and implication that smaller gems are weaker than big gems like Jasper and Rose.
Also, I heard ovoid pearls were the least valuable pearls from fan theories and linked that with Jasper's "...lost defective pearl..." line.
I explored that idea with this fan art:
I made the "perfect (round) pearls" sort of Ruby and Sapphire-like in stature due to the fact that Pearl implied she wasn't built for fighting and implication that smaller gems are weaker than big gems like Jasper and Rose.
Also, I heard ovoid pearls were the least valuable pearls from fan theories and linked that with Jasper's "...lost defective pearl..." line.
Admiral Woofington
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Pearl is Black Widow confirmed.
"AAAAHHHH!"
It's okay Pearl, at least it's been confirmed all that was sent after the initial broadcast was static.
Looks like Jeff Liu's gone and uploaded some of his storyboards for Cry For Help and Friend Ship (including a brief scene that didn't make the cut that he posted a week ago). Look at the detail he places on Pearl's face as she strains to come to terms with who she is:
I like that theory, too! Honestly, something's up if she has to detach her foot and she apparently can't regenerate it. Plus, her limbs really do look like their attached, rather than being a part of her body! I'm sure this'll be explored in the future, but until then, I think I'm gonna stick with this one.
He really is. I mean, there was a decent number of Stevens at SDCC! Though I think every gem, fusion, and Greg had at least one person cosplaying them, so maybe it was just due to the show's popularity, coupled with the fact that it had a panel.
Oh wow, I really like this idea! I mean, it makes sense, and would definitely give our Pearl an interesting backstory when we get to stories involving the Homeworld. The art's adorable, by the way!
I don't think we've seen any humans wear any gem jewelry of any sort yet apart from a Pearl necklace in Little Butler though i'm not sure if that counts. There was a Jewelry store in the background during Lion 2 also.
A Link to the Past
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That's a really interesting theory, and awesome fan art!
User 73706
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I just realized, I could totally see Yellow Diamond pulling a Thanos in her introduction and breaking Rose's shield mid-combat.
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SigmasonicX
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I vaguely recall seeing that picture posted in this or the previous thread.
Anyway, two articles about the Week of Sardonyx.
How Steven Universe is educating kids about consent
Steven Universe keeps giving us some of the most complex heroes on TV
Anyway, two articles about the Week of Sardonyx.
How Steven Universe is educating kids about consent
Steven Universe keeps giving us some of the most complex heroes on TV
SigmasonicX
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My theory is that he's Rose's test run at creating a biological being that's a combination of her and Greg.
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I think he's one of the monster gems that Rose successfully "domesticated"
SpeedySwaf
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He's like a heftier Travis Touchdown. All he needs are the glasses.
Ian JQ on the extended intro.
Also according to Matt it looks like SU will be returning to a weekly schedule when it comes back in August.
On Jasper.
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Also according to Matt it looks like SU will be returning to a weekly schedule when it comes back in August.
On Jasper.
A Link to the Past
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About the "On Jasper":
I assume that the ellipses are meant to mean "no, but..."
There's something going on with Jasper
I can't wait to find out what it is
Maybe it means that Jasper is a forced fusion and that's not a real fusion? :v
There's something going on with Jasper
I can't wait to find out what it is
Maybe it means that Jasper is a forced fusion and that's not a real fusion? :v
Ellipses were added to the post to make it less obvious that he just said a flat "no".
Ellipses either mean that this is an annoying question or that there is a "but". A "no" is pretty definitive. If he wanted it ambigious he would said something like "maybe not" or "probably not".
Her size, the marks on her skin that weren't visible in the hologram in Sworn to the Sword and last but least the irony of her being a kind of fusion.
And let's not forget that she hold herself against Garnet pretty well. And Garnet is a perfect fusion.
My favorite theory is that she was damaged in the gem war for earth and they trief to fix her broken gem with broken shards of other gems. Given their gem shard experiments at the time, it's not impossible.
Yeah that's why I added them. Didn't want to make it too obvious behind the spoiler tag. Sorry if it made it confusing.
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