except when they jump at the dead zone between cr hp and st. mk apparently
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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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except when they jump at the dead zone between cr hp and st. mk apparently
CountBlack
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Watching Daigo try to AA with DP this weekend was sad. Maybe it hits? Maybe it doesn't auto correct and it completely whiffs then you get CC'd into V-Trigger into knockdown into 50/50 and immediately lose, maybe you try to st.LP AA and it works.. maybe it gets stuffed out by Necalli's downward SRK and you get combo'd into V-trigger into knockdown into 50/50 and immediately lose
just block brehs
I use the FAT app, it has Urien framedata
Pejo
Member
Was really hoping we'd get Oni instead of OG Akuma, but either way he's one of my favorites. I've pretty much moved on to Necalli, but if new Akuma is fun to play, I could be swayed. Either way, he was my most wanted for S2, so I'm pumped. Now we need Garuda, Pullum, and maybe playable Ed or Eisbahn.
sixteen-bit
Member
isn't Eisbahn from some Japanese mobile game? I wonder if the bilboard on the London stage is just some cross-promotional advertising.
Urien's pokes are good, but Karin and Chun out-do him. That being said, they have a harder time bullying him than most other characters. I remember having trouble punishing Karin's sweep at max range with some characters, but Urien's sweep has some major range to it too. EX tackle is fast and has some mad distance, so it can punish highly negative things that people do and don't get punished for due to range (i.e. Birdie's EX bullhorn move into v-trigger). He has good frame-traps, good range, great damage and that's before he has v-trigger, which I believe is one of the best in the game.
His anti-airs are ok. Functional. We're not talking Vega or Bison bad, but I'm not talking Alex or Birdie good either. s.HK hits high, f.mp will catch jumps at a distance, and EX headbutt is invulnerable so it'll beat any jump in, but that has a very specific area where it will hit. Finally, s.fp can lead to a juggle into super, but it has a pretty high hurtbox. On the bright side, if it trades, you still recover in time to get the combo into super. It's like SF4 Ryu all over again!
Reversals, all he has is EX headbutt which has a ton of invincibility, but can be crush-counter'd on recovery. It hits twice, and if it hits once people tend to miss the punish, but that'll change as you go up the ranks. His v-reversal is fine, but it's hard to sacrifice v-trigger (Aegis Reflector) for it because it is so good.
Necalli is pretty good at AAing Necalli at least
Secret Character
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Former Bison main.
The issue with Dictator is that his method of approach is really one dimensional. He can get in with only a few options and it only takes a little bit of improper spacing to make things incredibly unsafe for him. All of his combos rely on counter hit to be effective and the range on his normals is quite horrible. In order to be really effective and scary, Dictator needs to pop V-Trigger and land a CH in order to burn all of his EX meter and Trigger. It just isn't worth it, honestly.
lucebuce12
Member
That's what cr.mk is for!
Seriously, that button is awesome. Also great against some crossup attempts, divekicks and Chun-Li's IA legs.
KhalilSyncere
Member
Ironically, the old version holds up better tho. I still have two of the old version fight pads that still work after months of use, however, I also bought 2 new versions and neither of them survived a month. I just bought a third one that I'm about to return one of the broken ones in exchange for.
Thanks for the info. Still unsure who to pick among those three...Urien is super fun though.
How similar are Chun/Urien to their 3S versions?
Yep. There's a reason people were doubting his high placing in tier lists when the game came out.
Some of us got ridiculed for saying he sucked, even here
.It hurt.
His beta versions had true pressure it was great but then he became "pls don't block" the characterYep. There's a reason people were doubting his high placing in tier lists when the game came out.
Some of us got ridiculed for saying he sucked, even here
It hurt.
Aesthetically, Urien translated fantastic from 3rd Strike. The voice, while different, has the right kind of attitude and badass sound to it. Exactly what was lacking from Dudley in SF4. Gameplay-wise, his normals are very similar, but better. In 3rd Strike, Urien heavily relied on unblockable setups and pressuring you while you're forced to block Aegis, but Aegis in this game dissipates too fast on block for that to be very effective (though RB's corner tricks with knee-drop were pretty sweet). In this game, you 'push' your opponent into Aegis, they block it, and you mix them up during that. I think this is a design choice, so that your opponent can risk pressing a button to interrupt pressure if they wish. I picked up and got effective with Urien fairly fast.
I don't play Chun, but her game in 3rd Strike revolved around turtling and whiffing normals to build meter, which doesn't happen here. I'd say she's closer to her SF4 incarnation, but with some tweaks to make her pressure game a lot better.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
lucebuce12
Member
(a)Hmm, I should do a cr.hk into V-Trigger.
(b)*gets blocked*
(c)Hmm, that didn't pan out. Oh well.
(d)*2 seconds later*
(e)Fuck, I'm in the corner, I'm gonna V-Reversa..... FUCK!!! This V-Trigger sucks, I'm never using it again.
(f) Start next match
(g) Return to (a)
(b)*gets blocked*
(c)Hmm, that didn't pan out. Oh well.
(d)*2 seconds later*
(e)Fuck, I'm in the corner, I'm gonna V-Reversa..... FUCK!!! This V-Trigger sucks, I'm never using it again.
(f) Start next match
(g) Return to (a)
HOLY SHIT, WE FIGHT ON THE WINGS OF A GODDAMN PLANE?
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
That's not safe! Also it will look dumb when you reach the corner. Or do any airborne move.
But I'm interested to see how they pull off a moving level.
But I'm interested to see how they pull off a moving level.
Projectjustice
Banned
Dominican Vega player got into Capcom Cup. DR Ray, makes me proud!!!
Fighting on an airplane? I think we're finding the maximum level of cognitive dissidence when we try to imagine how certain stage have a "corner".
Not that any of the DLC stages have a stage transition, but this one most certainly will not. If they did, it would have to be more like astage fatality.
Not that any of the DLC stages have a stage transition, but this one most certainly will not. If they did, it would have to be more like astage fatality.
That stage looks sick.
edit.
We already have our heroes jumping out of helicopter in the story mode without parachutes. Also lot of the stage transitions are already pg13 fatalities.
edit.
We already have our heroes jumping out of helicopter in the story mode without parachutes. Also lot of the stage transitions are already pg13 fatalities.
Reizo Ryuu
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Sick stage, updating the OP shortly.
edit: added.
edit: added.
lucebuce12
Member
What if the stage transition knocks you INSIDE the plane then you fight in there?
Honestly, I'm glad Capcom is doing some funky stuff here, the stage looks great.
sixteen-bit
Member
Rashid's stage looks really cool. Beautiful colors.
Oh yeah! I didn't see the matches. I remember because I thought Kbrad would take that tourney.
I stand corrected.
Still think Guile is better
Spuck-uk
Banned
Yeah, he absolutely played out of his skin, and Nemo is doing alright wit the character as well.. But Rashid is winning things, and he's not a good character either.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Pretty sure I've seen a fighting game stage on the wings of a biplane before, but that could be my old man memory.
King of Fighters definitely had a moving train stage.
lucebuce12
Member
Street Fighter Alpha had a moving train stage too, so it's not something new for the series. Though I don't think they've had a full on aerial stage before (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Like 99% sure that's just some of the artwork used at RedBull battlegrounds. Ono just tweeted that picture to show that he is there and is gonna drop some news.
TheSpoiler
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Nothing will ever match the near infinite stage length of fucking EX. I'll take a plane win over Tekken level extensions.
I don't buy stages, you end up seeing them online here and there. I understand why people who play locally a lot would care, though.
lucebuce12
Member
I've already decided that I'm just gonna buy the season pass every year and spend my FM on the additional stuff.
Decisions, decisions. I'll try chun/urien out for a week each and see where Im at.
Seems like the end of the wing goes up vertically, so I guess that will be the excuse lol.
Dark Ninja
Member
What if the stage transition knocks you INSIDE the plane then you fight in there?
Honestly, I'm glad Capcom is doing some funky stuff here, the stage looks great.
This screenshot makes it look like something out of Smash Brothers.
A3 Guile stage is still one of my favs in the series.
darkslayer101
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what is the fastest way to get FM?? I pretty did everything I can do me thinks
Scrub Mcgrubb
Member
we Double Dragon now?
Ok, this would be amazing. I need to find some pictures from the venue and see where this could be.
This is what someone saw in there (supposed to be Akuma and Sagat): http://abload.de/img/untitled-1bmkpj.png
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Eh, I still think that Vega as a character has fewer flaws than Guile, which makes him a tad more viable overall. Guile specialists like Nuckle Du and ChrisG make him look really really good, but then again Zangief's specialists do the same thing.
Besides, I only put Guile and Vega a single space apart so you could pretty easily swap them without changing anything at all :V
Survival assuming you can finish it on first try with everyone.
Rashiiiiidoooooooooooooooooooo
The Lone Dragon
Member
Don't forget the Challenges. They net 5000-6000 FM per week.
lucebuce12
Member
Yeah lol, that was some rorschach test level stuff going on with that picture.
Here's just an example of the type of artwork they had there, the stream showed a Chun-Li artwork where her hair bun things (I have no idea what they're called) were in red but the rest of the outline was in black and a third character who I'm drawing a blank on.
Projectjustice
Banned
That's the point of my post. There aren't bad characters in the game. The tier list is so truncated. SFV isn't a sub system base game. A huge factor of the players mentally comes into play. Just look at how Nickledu man handled Tokido last night. You cant just live by the tier list.
I'm a Bison main.
Why you guys doubted him? Just because some people on reddit was mad on him because he revealed stuff before them?
sixteen-bit
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did they mention anything else?
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