Cjdamon042
Member
I'm assuming 1080p when docked, 720p when in handheld. That's the max for both modes. I doubt it'll render in 1080p and downsample to 720p in handheld as that would use up more battery.
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Super Bomberman R - 30 FPS, online details
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I'm assuming 1080p when docked, 720p when in handheld. That's the max for both modes. I doubt it'll render in 1080p and downsample to 720p in handheld as that would use up more battery.
Eolz
Member
Unity.
More seriously, probably something done quickly with an art choice that couldn't let them do 60fps locked. Unlocked would have been worse.
The features and performance this game does not have makes it a little hard to swallow the $50 price. $30 and this would be insta-buy. I'm still considering it though, since GCU would make it $40 for me.
DarthButcher
Member
Locked 30fps > Variable framerate agreed
I'll be there to play with you on Friday...online...in Bomberman...this is awkward.
You must be living under a rock or not go on NeoGAF much. 60fps has become standard for multiplayer games.
AcademicSaucer
Member
and retail, launching with a new console
This makes no sense, considering that all the old 16-bit Bomberman games ran at 60fps. Kind of like just about all 16-bit games.
Sigh.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
WaterAstro
Member
Should have aimed for 24fps for dat cinematic feel.
RichiRamjag
Member
I think it's more that some people are happy to even see a bomberman.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Why dont you tell us why its not 60?
When an indie team of THREE PEOPLE can get their game running at 60fps in Unity, whats the excuse for Bomberman, a game backed by Nintendo and Konami?
Okami Haundo
Member
Just hopping in to ask what seems to be a dumb question.
What would be the appeal of this being 60FPS vs 30? I understand the difference between the two and definitely appreciate it for fast-paced games, but I've never considered Bomberman to be fast paced. Is it just a visuals thing for you folks?
I get and enjoy the appeal behind 60FPS, but I guess I'm not someone who demands that every game hits that.
What would be the appeal of this being 60FPS vs 30? I understand the difference between the two and definitely appreciate it for fast-paced games, but I've never considered Bomberman to be fast paced. Is it just a visuals thing for you folks?
I get and enjoy the appeal behind 60FPS, but I guess I'm not someone who demands that every game hits that.
Why dont you tell us why its not 60?
When an indie team of THREE PEOPLE can get their game running at 60fps in Unity, whats the excuse for Bomberman, a game backed by Nintendo and Konami?
Yo what is this, it looks rad.
randomengine
Banned
Crocodile tears over performance.
I have never played a game that I enjoyed and performance issues got in my way. I have never went from enjoying a game to not enjoying based on performance. Never happened. Not once. And I have played some of the worst performing games ever made. Shit on the Sega Saturn that ran at like 10 fps or less, that literally would turn into a powerpoint presentation in versus mode - Guardian Heroes. It was still my favorite game of all time for 20 years.
I bought the special edition of Ultima IX: Ascension - one of the buggiest games of all time. It sucked because it wasn't fun, not because it was buggy. People are playing buggy ass games all of the time, but since they enjoy them, you don't hear them bitching about it.
This constant bitching about performance for games that aren't released yet should be as ban worthy as port begging.
Here is the main point - targeting 60 FPS for a console hybrid brings nothing to a game that is not paced for 60 fps - it will only drain the battery faster. The pace of Bomberman provides nothing in 60 fps - It is already a slow game.
I have never played a game that I enjoyed and performance issues got in my way. I have never went from enjoying a game to not enjoying based on performance. Never happened. Not once. And I have played some of the worst performing games ever made. Shit on the Sega Saturn that ran at like 10 fps or less, that literally would turn into a powerpoint presentation in versus mode - Guardian Heroes. It was still my favorite game of all time for 20 years.
I bought the special edition of Ultima IX: Ascension - one of the buggiest games of all time. It sucked because it wasn't fun, not because it was buggy. People are playing buggy ass games all of the time, but since they enjoy them, you don't hear them bitching about it.
This constant bitching about performance for games that aren't released yet should be as ban worthy as port begging.
Here is the main point - targeting 60 FPS for a console hybrid brings nothing to a game that is not paced for 60 fps - it will only drain the battery faster. The pace of Bomberman provides nothing in 60 fps - It is already a slow game.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Not sure but it aint bomberman -_-
Vital Tundra
Member
Good for you, man. Unlike you however, some of us expect maybe a little more from an AAA publisher.
Lets not act like 30fps for this game should be a-okay considering what other people have done with unity, and them being indy at that.
Dead Man Typing
Member
Why dont you tell us why its not 60?
When an indie team of THREE PEOPLE can get their game running at 60fps in Unity, whats the excuse for Bomberman, a game backed by Nintendo and Konami?
Cool looking game. What console is it running on?
gunstarhero
Member
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Assault Android Cactus.
If you like twin stick shooters you will LOVE it. One of the dev is a GAFer too.
ViolentP
Member
Just because you are ok with playing games that perform terribly doesn't mean anyone else should be. Some of us prefer better performance to visuals. It's really just that simple. And be certain, that argument is just as strong as yours.
TalentAlwaysWins
Banned
30FPS was a given from what we've seen. Co op locally in 2017 though? Why even bother with local
Interfectum
Member
A big Switch selling point is people playing locally together. It's a no-brainer a launch title would have this.
randomengine
Banned
Completely different game, with different requirements in terms of refresh rate and speed of play - Bomberman plays a lot slower and doesn't need the 60 fps refresh rate. Let's not derail the thread to promote another game.
Vital Tundra
Member
I mean its a bummer, but whats wrong with local?
For you it doesn't NEED it.
Why dont you tell us why its not 60?
When an indie team of THREE PEOPLE can get their game running at 60fps in Unity, whats the excuse for Bomberman, a game backed by Nintendo and Konami?
Because the Switch is not as powerful as a PS4?
I find 30fps to be very jarring if it's a multiplayer game. That's a main reason I can't play Destiny any more.
ViolentP
Member
I think local multiplayer should actually be more common. The lack of multiplayer coop however is a little confusing.
Okami Haundo
Member
I don't quite understand why there's no option for online co-op, but really? The Switch is a hybrid that comes with two controllers by default. Why wouldn't they offer local?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
So people with friends can play it together???
Jonneh3003
Banned
I can't tell if this is sarcasm, local co-op is a huge selling point for a Switch game.
TalentAlwaysWins
Banned
True
Well I mean in everywhere but Japan it's useless except to a very small percentage of people
Yeah
I don't see what's not proper or Bomberman, besides the framerate.
randomengine
Banned
Seems like 30 FPS is a decent performance target. Who says it performs terribly?
Vital Tundra
Member
Yeah but we're talking about a game that looks like this
I'm in day 1 but if I had to guess this is Konami being lazy.
This exactly. This game is not pushing any boundaries whatsoever, and in many cases could pass as a PS2 game if it wasn't for the resolution. How can something like Mario Kart run 1080p60fps on Switch and not this?
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Danis Saur
Member
Hard to believe people are buying this, and at $50.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Not the best stage to showcase, some look really impressive.Yeah but we're talking about a game that looks like this
I'm in day 1 for the Switch but if I had to guess this is Konami being lazy.
Decent performance in a multiplayer game perhaps for you. Definitely not for me.
Okami Haundo
Member
Yeah the funny thing is how people are seemingly ignoring that everything about the game screams low budget and that there were tons of impressions and video from just a few weeks ago talking about/ showing the game running like crap and having horrible load times but whatever
randomengine
Banned
Bingo. You get it. Bomberman is 30 fps because it would be a waste of resources to target 60 FPS for a game that doesn't need it for gameplay purposes. It's a slow-paced game, like you said and the developers probably want to conserve resources for the handheld aspect of the game. No big deal.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's a narrative people are running with without much proof.
~waits for Hoo-Doo to once again come in to inform us that Jeff Gertsman said it ran really bad~
Jaded Alyx
Member
Jesus Christ...
ViolentP
Member
You are saying that performance should have little semblance in a persons enjoyment of a game. You seem to be an outlier to enjoy a game at 10fps but surely you understand that many people would take issue with the idea. The same principle applies playing at 30fps but to a much smaller degree. Personally, I can play a game at 30fps. But almost 100% of the time, if I could sacrifice visuals for 60fps, I would. Simply put, because I enjoy smooth gameplay.