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Super Bomberman R - 30 FPS, online details
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What's wrong with local play?
OnionPowder
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Decent? What would be a bad performance target?
randomengine
Banned
Because I have a wife, child, and friends who will play it with me. Wheres if it was online-only, I couldn't enjoy it at all and would refuse to play that mode. Gaming is just better when you game with people that you know.
Jonneh3003
Banned
On my phone atm so didn't search too far but some stages look pretty nice, this one's from story mode I think:
Dougieflesh
Member
Hmmm. The Switch is more powerful than a Wii U yet a Bomberman game that looks like a last gen downloadable game can't hit 60 fps? The math ain't adding up.
RichiRamjag
Member
People have friends and family. Sorry that you don't.
randomengine
Banned
Probably sub 30. "Bad" or "terrible" performance would be sub-30 or jarring framerate dips. I consider the design of the game - was it designed for 30 fps - when considering "bad" performance accusations.
Notice in DF videos, they point out the dips, and how jarring they are. That's what bad performance looks like. If a framerate target is set and met, and it is at least 30 - it should be all good.
sir_bumble_bee
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Glad to hear the final game is at least rendering at 1080p in TV Mode. There were reports that it was 720p at the Switch Preview Events.
That's pretty shitty man
SinCityAssassin
Member
How the Switch is isn't correlated with the amount of effort Konami wants to put in regular Bomberman.
Vital Tundra
Member
Have they said anything about multiplayer options?
SinCityAssassin
Member
1 to 8 people, online or locally.
FrozenCell
Member
lazy devs
Not sure why so many on Gaf act like playing games with your friends locally is some weird edge-case scenario.
plagiarize
Banned
On a highly portable system no less. I expect to be playing Bomberman R with colleagues on lunch break this Friday.
Previous games have been some of the most fun I've had with a multiplayer game. But I still kind of agree.
moltonasty
Member
the only thing that's awkward IMO is that a new retail Bomberman game is coming out in 2017 and some ppl wanna act like this isn't a big deal...
get your priorities in order GAF
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Don't ever compare that utter trash to the new Bomberman.
it's better than nothing
randomengine
Banned
Online play seems to be the only way edge lords can reliably play multiplayer games.
$50 USD. Yes, seriously, $50.
On my phone atm so didn't search too far but some stages look pretty nice, this one's from story mode I think:
The look of this game has been growing on me. Didn't really like it at first glance.
60$ Edit: wrong, 50$
Jimmyfenix
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50 buxs
Unhandled Exception
Member
b-but muh battery
randomengine
Banned
the only thing that's awkward IMO is that a new retail Bomberman game is coming out in 2017 and some ppl wanna act like this isn't a big deal...
get your priorities in order GAF
My priorities are to play good games and not nitpick and demand everything be 1080p60 if it doesn't have to be. That's imposing your values onto the rest of us. I just want the game to be good, designed well from a game design perspective and be fun. Bad performance can hinder that, but a targeted and locke 30 FPS is not "bad performance".
ViolentP
Member
You're silly.
On my phone atm so didn't search too far but some stages look pretty nice, this one's from story mode I think:
Are there vids of that ? it looks better indeed.
Like I said before, 30fps in a multiplayer game isn't bad performance for you but for me, it very much is.
ViolentP
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See, I think 30fps is bad performance. That is strictly due to a majority of what I play being at 60fps. Now, that said, anyone who thinks 30fps is fine is cool by my book. But my personal experiences demand a higher expectation in the year 2017.
On my phone atm so didn't search too far but some stages look pretty nice, this one's from story mode I think:
Kind of explains the diagonal camera since there's elevation to story levels. It's kind of reminiscent of Bomberman 64 in that regard, which granted had a free form camera, but doing the classic Bomberman overhead view for it did not do it that many favors.
Yup, 30fps is a let down but the actual graphics are not bad. People keep saying it looks like/worse than Bomberman Live/Ultra but that game looks shockingly bad compared to this.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's said to take inspiration from Bomberman 64 and Super Bomberman 3.
randomengine
Banned
Yup, 30fps is a let down but the actual graphics are not bad. People keep saying it looks like/worse than Bomberman Live/Ultra but that game looks shockingly bad compared to this.
Also keep in mind not all devs are Naughty Dog. Bomberman has never been cutting edge. The developers are probably pretty traditional and old school and don't having a lot of experience with higher-end performance. They probably made the game they are most comfortable making and for a series that could very well disappear, I think we should be thankful that we have a new Bomberman game to play at all.
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Ein Bear
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How playable 30fps may or may not be to you personally seems somewhat redundant when there's no benefit attached to it.
If there was some huge new mechanic, or awesome twist that you could point to and say "See, the trade off was worth it!" I could understand, but there isn't. It's standard Bomberman gameplay, except now it's running at half the framerate of the 16 bit games and they want 50 fucking pounds for it.
It's a cynical cash grab designed to take advantage of fan's nostalgia/goodwill and the general desire to buy games at a console launch. The whole game is indefensible.
As a value proposition it's objectively worse than if they just stuck a Virtual Console ROM dump of Bomberman 94 on the eshop.
If there was some huge new mechanic, or awesome twist that you could point to and say "See, the trade off was worth it!" I could understand, but there isn't. It's standard Bomberman gameplay, except now it's running at half the framerate of the 16 bit games and they want 50 fucking pounds for it.
It's a cynical cash grab designed to take advantage of fan's nostalgia/goodwill and the general desire to buy games at a console launch. The whole game is indefensible.
As a value proposition it's objectively worse than if they just stuck a Virtual Console ROM dump of Bomberman 94 on the eshop.
moltonasty
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If you're implying that I'm demanding 60fps then you should maybe check the post he was responding to. I literally said that 30fps is fine if it's locked
I agree 100% that fun gameplay takes priority over teh grafxxxz
Diablohead
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Time and effort they don't want to spend.