This means Bomberman for Super Smash Bros 4 Switch, right?
I think you misread what I said - Konami can keep Metal Gear and Silent Hill (also add in Yugioh to that), and Nintendo should grab all of Konami's other, lesser known series. That includes but is not limited to Goemon, but also the likes of Gradius, Twinbee, Sparkster, Contra, Hudson's library, among others. Also Castlevania of course.
It also would be great if Nintendo then revived all those wacky games from Konami's Famicom days that only cameo'd in stuff like Wai Wai World or Parodius, such as Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa, Yume Penguin Monogatari, Getsu Fuuma Den, Boku no Dracula-kun, Moai-kun, and so on.
We did get this on 3DS:
Which from a quick read is semi-related.
I've said it before but I'm absolutely convinced the only reason this game exists is because Bomberman must've gotten a lot of votes in the Smash poll which is why Nintendo went to Konami and asked them to make a new entry.
Well being a launch title in a pretty anemic launch lineup helped a lot.
I've said it before but I'm absolutely convinced the only reason this game exists is because Bomberman must've gotten a lot of votes in the Smash poll which is why Nintendo went to Konami and asked them to make a new entry.
Yeah sorry I thought I was quoting the Bloody Roar poster you quoted. Totally agree with you, in general if an ip is dying it's better to be bought from someone that cares more. Then again Nintendo also has forgotten many IPs tooI think you misread what I said - Konami can keep Metal Gear and Silent Hill (also add in Yugioh to that), and Nintendo should grab all of Konami's other, lesser known series. That includes but is not limited to Goemon, but also the likes of Gradius, Twinbee, Sparkster, Contra, Hudson's library, among others. Also Castlevania of course.
It also would be great if Nintendo then revived all those wacky games from Konami's Famicom days that only cameo'd in stuff like Wai Wai World or Parodius, such as Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa, Yume Penguin Monogatari, Getsu Fuuma Den, Boku no Dracula-kun, Moai-kun, and so on.
Yeah sorry I thought I was quoting the Bloody Roar poster you quoted. Totally agree with you, in general if an ip is dying it's better to be bought from someone that cares more. Then again Nintendo also has forgotten many IPs too
Hopefully this means Konami can possibly ressurect Suikoden or Contra.
Wonder if this can motivate Konami to revive other game series with outsourced low budget sequels sold at high prices.
Someone sounds bitter.
People dont buy games if they arent interested in them just because there isnt much elsse to play...they could invest that money on 3DS, PS4, mobile games etc. instead.
This means Bomberman for Super Smash Bros 4 Switch, right?
I disagree. I think some people buy games at a system launch that they normally would ignore, simply because they want games for their new system.
The person that's itching to try the marketed tabletop local multiplayer has next to no other game options, so they go with what's available. It was definitely a window of opportunity for Bomberman, and it did well. Had Mario Kart been at the launch it probably would've been a different story.
I disagree. I think some people buy games at a system launch that they normally would ignore, simply because they want games for their new system.
The person that's itching to try the marketed tabletop local multiplayer has next to no other game options, so they go with what's available. It was definitely a window of opportunity for Bomberman, and it did well. Had Mario Kart been at the launch it probably would've been a different story.
That makes zero sense. Why will gamer want to choose to buy a game for their new system rather than buy game which they want to play? Especially when we have new games like Horizon Zero Dawn and Nier: Automata
Sure...but acting as if it only sells because there is nothing else doesnt make sense, considering how many launch bombas we had.
That would be cool, but I somehow doubt it. I feel like if that was the case, we would have Bomberman series amiibos of the various characters. I also think that Snake probably would have gotten more Smash poll votes, given the fact he was cut from Brawl and is an extremely popular character.
Would make sense, they likely got a lot of valuable data from that poll even outside of Smash. I wish someone could leak it, I'd love to see the full list (unrealistic characters and all).
I disagree. I think some people buy games at a system launch that they normally would ignore, simply because they want games for their new system.
The person that's itching to try the marketed tabletop local multiplayer has next to no other game options, so they go with what's available. It was definitely a window of opportunity for Bomberman, and it did well. Had Mario Kart been at the launch it probably would've been a different story.
Smash Poll happened, Bomberman got a bunch of votes. Snake probably got more but MGS on Nintendo was probably just not happening and Snake, much as I love him, doesn't have that "classic" character flair to him (to be fair, neither does Bayonetta) that someone like Bomberman does, he feels super, super modern and current despite Metal Gear originating on NES. But Bomberman fits the Smash family perfectly. He's had a long history on Nintendo consoles, he's an iconic classic character akin to Pac Man, Sonic, Mega Man, etc.
1) The ONLY third-party amiibo so far has been Shovel Knight due to a special agreement with Nintendo for Co-Op. An entire line of amiibo based purely on a third party IP is, as of yet, unheard of.
Keep in mind I know this is super theoretical with next to no evidence, but here's how I see it going down:
Smash Poll happened, Bomberman got a bunch of votes. Snake probably got more but MGS on Nintendo was probably just not happening and Snake, much as I love him, doesn't have that "classic" character flair to him (to be fair, neither does Bayonetta) that someone like Bomberman does, he feels super, super modern and current despite Metal Gear originating on NES. But Bomberman fits the Smash family perfectly. He's had a long history on Nintendo consoles, he's an iconic classic character akin to Pac Man, Sonic, Mega Man, etc.
Nintendo and Sakurai probably thought "you know, Bomberman is perfect and unique and would fit but there hasn't been a Bomberman game on Nintendo since N64" so they went to Konami and went "Hey, we're launching this new system, we'd love to put Bomberman in the next Smash version, would you get the Hudson guys back together and make a classic Bomberman game for the launch? It'll have low competition and it'll be a cross promotion for Smash so it'll boost for both of us." and then they did it and here we are.
As for your amiibo comment, I have two counterpoints: 1) The ONLY third-party amiibo so far has been Shovel Knight due to a special agreement with Nintendo for Co-Op. An entire line of amiibo based purely on a third party IP is, as of yet, unheard of. With how completely shit Nintendo is with amiibo stock levels, I sincerely doubt they'd gamble an entire line on a property that nobody in America has heard of in lord knows how many years when they can't even get Animal Crossing amiibo to sell or keep Zelda amiibo on shelves. 2) Nintendo is HUGELY secretive with their plans. If they made a Bomberman amiibo, it'd probably just be a Smash amiibo, they wouldn't use a generic Bomberman Series amiibo for the Smash one (just as I feel that if they ever put Shovel Knight in Smash, he'd get a new, Smash Series amiibo). So obviously they aren't gonna show their hand at this early stage, and also consider that we didn't even know what Nintendo's own Zelda amiibo did in Breath of the Wild until AFTER the game had come out and, correct me if I'm wrong, but the functionality still hasn't actually been officially confirmed by Nintendo yet.
So, I know I could be completely wrong, and there's nothing but conjecture to go off here, but it sure smells to me like Nintendo going to Konami and asking them to get Hudson back together to make a Bomberman game came out of nowhere, but a logical prompting of it could be that Bomberman is a classic, iconic character that would fit into Smash perfectly and he may have gotten a ton of votes in the Smash Poll (but we'll never know) that would have prompted cross-promotion.
I'd love to know just how many votes Goku got hahahahaha
Ugh I played this over the weekend and it was....bad....
Controls just weren't tight and I never felt like I was really going where I wanted. Bomberman is kind of a twitch game so when you push the control and it takes a sec to move that's not fun.
Glad it sold decent but they need to patch it or just make a sequel that doesn't feel rushed
This is exactly the case. That's why we often see terrible games perform extremely well at launch, be it Red Steel on Wii or Knack on PS4.
With Bomberman we even had a lot of users on here just buying it and then being surprised that the game isn't very polished (which wasn't that difficult to see).
Because people want games for their new device. Especially ones that take advantage of a system's feature.
Also, not everyone owns a PS4
I'm not saying the only reason it sold was because there was a lack of competition. I'm saying it benefitted from it.
Still decent numbers when compared to previous Bomberman games.
Oh holy shiiiiiit!!! O: O: O:If you look at the Smash 4 newcomer list, you will actually notice that the vast majority of the new additions are characters from games past the mid-2000s, or that received revivals in recent years.
The only exceptions to this are the third party guests (though other than Mega Man, all of the guests are current characters as well) and Duck Hunt, who is the obligatory retro hardware-based character.
I've come to the conclusion that safe Sakurai's single hardware character per game, we'll be pretty much done with "classic" characters unless they have a role in a more recent game (e.g. Dixie would've qualified, though I think her shot is gone already) and/or are veterans that had been cut.
As for your amiibo comment, I have two counterpoints:
Oh really?
You know what, I should have looked it up before saying that because somehow the only Bomberman game past Bomberman 64/Hero that I know of is the bastardized reboot. If anything though I guess that just supports that Bomberman has a pretty solid home on Nintendo systems and would fit in well with the rest of the cast?We've had two full Bomberman games on the Gamecube, and a bunch of games for the DS and a couple for the Wii.
Also I feel there is no "etc". Pac Man, Sonic, Mega Man, Bomberman. He is the 4th character that fits in best!
I mean, can you honestly look at those numbers and blame them? If I understand correctly those are lifetime sales in Japan....Revival of classic Konami IPs? You'll get Gradius and like it. Bomberman sequel? Lets see how many micro transactions and one time use consumables we can stuff into the next one. #fuckonami
Oh holy shiiiiiit!!! O: O: O:
I've said it before but I'm absolutely convinced the only reason this game exists is because Bomberman must've gotten a lot of votes in the Smash poll which is why Nintendo went to Konami and asked them to make a new entry.
I would be all over it (unless it's a shitty pachinko)And Mystical Ninja - I feel this IP is perfect for Nintendo audience.
I've always wanted a full 3D Bonk platformer. Other 2D mascots like Mario, Sonic, Mega Man and Rayman got one.
There was actually a WiiWare Adventure Island in 2009.
WiiWare had a lot of new entries in classic series.
Just Dance is a non-game? How?Thanks, for correcting me. Still a non game and a game already released on every other console.
Well being a launch title in a pretty anemic launch lineup helped a lot.