It just means joke character or third party characters they'd have no chance of getting i.e. Master Chief weren't even considered. She still came first in Europe and I doubt there were that many non applicable suggestions that bested her numbers.
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It just means joke character or third party characters they'd have no chance of getting i.e. Master Chief weren't even considered. She still came first in Europe and I doubt there were that many non applicable suggestions that bested her numbers.
Red Arremer
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I know what it's supposed to sound like. I still think that if Sakurai didn't like Bayonetta very much, even if she placed 1st in the European ballot, then he wouldn't have put her in. That's all I'm saying.
Geminosity
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Heh, maybe I was the mistaken one
Thing is, regardless of the thought process/mentality behind the "boo pokken" complaints, the way reality works doesn't reflect how the complaints claim it does.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
same reason people think the "have you ever made a game" line is taken seriously without any hint of irony
Red Arremer
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Because Sakurai is the major creative force behind the Smash series, and I doubt there would be any addition to any part of the game without him liking the idea of it.
Captain Rage Quit 69
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Let's be real if Sakurai was really about favorites it wouldn't have taken three games to get more than one Kirby rep, and Roy would have absolutely been in Brawl.
This conspiracy theory stuff is silly, considering I doubt even Sakurai likes all the characters who are already in Smash THAT much (inb4 "he probably hates ice climbers")
This conspiracy theory stuff is silly, considering I doubt even Sakurai likes all the characters who are already in Smash THAT much (inb4 "he probably hates ice climbers")
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The funny thing about it is how people kept changing the narrative.
Oh Sakurai favors Kirby! no wait, he favors Kid Icarus! no wait, he favors Fire Emblem!
It's a group effort though, you can see that in the interview with regards to Corrin.
Oh Sakurai favors Kirby! no wait, he favors Kid Icarus! no wait, he favors Fire Emblem!
It's a group effort though, you can see that in the interview with regards to Corrin.
MrSaturn99
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I still remember back in the Brawl days when he apparently held favoritism towards Star Fox.
Geminosity
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edit: nevermind, just noticed there's a thread discussing the bestbuy placeholder for smash on switch and that it's normally done ahead of rumours so it doesn't really mean much.
stan423321
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I somehow managed to forget Pikmin World entry was also a thing before Switch launch, despite its somewhat unexpected name. If it turns out that is the real name... well, I'll have many questions.
Triforce141
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Well, Mario's done that before with Super Mario World
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
At least, we are like 4 days away to see if we are going to get any announcement for Smash Bros.
Metroid is more likely than Smash Bros at the moment!
balladofwindfishes
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He added Ganondorf because people wanted Ganondorf and his body was sorta the same as Captain Falcon. And they had a spare GCN model laying around. It doesn't seem like there was ever a time when Sakurai actually intended for Ganondorf to be in the game (like if he was cut or originally planned, he wasn't). He had more enthusiasm for adding Young Link than he did for Ganondorf.
Brawl, he at least seemed to understand Ganondorf is kinda an important dude and should be featured more heavily and made more unique, but with Smash 4, now we're back to Ganondorf just being a random guy on the roster and not the main villain of one of the most important series on the roster. Sheik has always held a higher spot on the roster than Ganondorf. I'm not talking about tiers, but in marketing and how much he talks about the character in outside media.
In general it seems like unless you're Bowser, the Koopalings, or Mewtwo, Sakurai doesn't particularly care much for villains. He even took Metaknight and Dedede who started as villains and quickly made them not villains in later Kirby games.
Not really sure why that is, but villains just don't seem particularly important to have on the roster for him.
In fact, I'm pretty sure the Koopalings and Mewtwo are the only villains (and Mewtwo is arguable) added to Smash that were not added due entirely to fan demand.
Bowser - Fan demand
Ganondorf - Fan demand
Mewtwo - Because Mewtwo is awesome with his wicked voice and psychic powers and his cool movie and woosh bam psychic mind crush (seriously, this is basically what I've gathered from reading about why Mewtwo is in Smash)
Wolf - Fan demand
Koopalings - Because the Clown Car concept was cool
And Dark Pit, Dedede and Metaknight aren't really villains.
afternoon delight
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Now that I have a decent internet connection, online is a lot more fun. You all will laugh but as I was cycling through characters trying out ones I hadn't, I sampled Bayonetta-
Holy SHIT. Is she OP or is it just me? Really fun to play as, and super flashy. Just a real joy, the jump range she has feels so fluid.
Holy SHIT. Is she OP or is it just me? Really fun to play as, and super flashy. Just a real joy, the jump range she has feels so fluid.
afternoon delight
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Edit: Dos posts.
Dimitri LH
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She is good, but not impossible to deal with, just study her and she can be handled.
IntelliHeath
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Source: https://twitter.com/SmashBrosSpain/status/874208271409840129
Second Source: https://juegosadn.eleconomista.es/s...-switch-podria-haber-sido-filtrado-no-105942/
According to a member in the discord, they mentioned that Super Smash Bros Switch actually have EAN (which is basically a barcode) which is unusual for "placeholders."
It was up few hours ago when I checked the source however I want to research more on this matters and I noticed that they deleted the page. Now it would direct you to 404 error.
http://www.fnac.es/SSB-SWITCH-Juego...gin=TRDBLR&ptd=70431&affid=1929404&ectrans=1#
Take everything with grain of salts.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yup, NintendoGAF is pretty much active those days awhile SmashGAF Discord is pretty much dead.
MrSaturn99
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In less than 24 hours, the dust will settle. Will we be celebrating Smash this year, or face the grim reality that we won't be seeing HD Magicant until maybe the next half decade?
The end is nigh.
The end is nigh.
balladofwindfishes
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I think paid online was delayed to next year entirely because Smash 4 Switch was probably quietly delayed to 2018 and they're launching together.
No better way to sell paid online than Nintendo's biggest hardcore online series.
Neoriceisgood
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How does one partake in this "Nintendo gaf discord"? :3
IntelliHeath
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Neoriceisgood
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Many mistakes were made this day..
Huh. I forgot I was even competing in this. I still stand by my guess, though; Chorus Kids are too easy a guess if they were half-finished, even if Decidueye & Spring Man look likely. I also still stand by wanting Monokuma playable as a
fighter.
Ditto.
puppet
Ditto.
balladofwindfishes
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Doubt we see Smash today. They're focusing on 2017, and Smash seems like a 2018 game.
Steve Youngblood
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I don't know. I feel like the focus on 2017 just makes something like this more likely. What do they have between Splatoon and Mario Odyssey. If it's just a Smash 4 port that's been in development for some time (assuming the rumors were true), even with enhancements it should be ready to go soon. I'm basing this on absolutely nothing but gut instinct, but my expectations are that we'll probably see a Smash Deluxe and a Mario Maker Deluxe today.
But we'll know more in 90 minutes! I'm not going out on a limb with this stuff.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I gotta to love fear mongering in Nintendo E3 thread but at same time, it would keep those people in check with low expectation so I'm fine with it. I have a good feeling that we are going to get few 2018 games.
Twentyfive minute video doesn't give me hope tbh.
balladofwindfishes
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Nintendonis pretty good about keeping things brief.
No use showing long trailers when there's entire days to fill with content
MrSaturn99
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So...the dream is dead?
Dimitri LH
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I would be shocked if they revealed it on the treehouse live and not on the presentation.
TheDinoman
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Hoping Samus looks like this next time around.
Starting to get concerned. I would hate to lose the huge roster Smash 4 has. Hoping we get a port somehow but it's not looking good.
TheDinoman
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No, I'm pretty sure Smash 4 is 100% over and done with. We're just gonna have to wait a long time before the next game.
Right now, I think Sakurai is working on a non-Smash related project. With all this love Metroid's getting, I'd still like to see Sakurai change his mind and come back to Kid Icarus...
Right now, I think Sakurai is working on a non-Smash related project. With all this love Metroid's getting, I'd still like to see Sakurai change his mind and come back to Kid Icarus...
Green Mamba
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Yup, I'm one hundred percent on the "next Smash is Smash 5 proper" train. Smash 4 is done.
And Samus will one hundred percent look like that design, as this is a Sakamoto led project and not a Prime "side story" game (from Nintendo's perspective). So excited to move on from Other M's shadow over the series.
And Samus will one hundred percent look like that design, as this is a Sakamoto led project and not a Prime "side story" game (from Nintendo's perspective). So excited to move on from Other M's shadow over the series.
Steve Youngblood
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Yeah. I mean I'm not going to revolt if the Smash 4 port never happens. Based on precedent it's not necessarily something we should have ever expected. However, particularly noting the success of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, it just seems like a missed opportunity to me. Oh well.
SatoAilDarko
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Nintendo is going to release a new entry based on Smash for Wii U as the Switch's Smash Holiday 2018, 4 years after release.
I mean 4 years is a perfectly good gap. Nintendo definitely wants to sell DLC for years afterwards.
Think about it. Would Nintendo release a Smash game with close to 60 characters and tons of stages and then 3 years later release a slightly better looking game with less content they would have to build from the ground up?
Not to mention this would cause Smash to release over halfway through the Switch's lifetime.
It's better to use the prior Smash 4 and update all the models and add better textures and effects.
Also you can easily add a new singleplayer platform mode to make it more of a new game.
Keep in mind in between Melee and Brawl Sakurai made Kirby Air Ride and Meteos while between Brawl and Smash 4 he make Kid Icarus Uprsing.
So far we've heard nothing about Sakurai working on a new game which you would think considering his company Sora needs to partner up with someone for development.
Sakurai working on Smash 6 (he called Smash for Wii u Smash 5) since the last one even on a reduced schedule is plenty of time to add a lot.
Considering there were reliable rumors of a Smash port at launch being worked by Namco if they're still working on it till 2018 it's definitely having substantial new content for a new entry.
I mean 4 years is a perfectly good gap. Nintendo definitely wants to sell DLC for years afterwards.
Think about it. Would Nintendo release a Smash game with close to 60 characters and tons of stages and then 3 years later release a slightly better looking game with less content they would have to build from the ground up?
Not to mention this would cause Smash to release over halfway through the Switch's lifetime.
It's better to use the prior Smash 4 and update all the models and add better textures and effects.
Also you can easily add a new singleplayer platform mode to make it more of a new game.
Keep in mind in between Melee and Brawl Sakurai made Kirby Air Ride and Meteos while between Brawl and Smash 4 he make Kid Icarus Uprsing.
So far we've heard nothing about Sakurai working on a new game which you would think considering his company Sora needs to partner up with someone for development.
Sakurai working on Smash 6 (he called Smash for Wii u Smash 5) since the last one even on a reduced schedule is plenty of time to add a lot.
Considering there were reliable rumors of a Smash port at launch being worked by Namco if they're still working on it till 2018 it's definitely having substantial new content for a new entry.
Professor Beef
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So do I win because nothing was shown
You were all fools to doubt me
You were all fools to doubt me
TheDinoman
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MrSaturn99
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Much as I'd like to believe it's somehow being reserved for next year, I think I'm putting Smash 4 Switch to rest as well. To be honest, I've secretly been making my peace over the past few weeks for this to happen; what happened with "Pokémon Stars" probably sealed it.
I mean, never say never, I suppose, but it's been two years and we've had nothing but dead ends. I guess it doesn't really matter since I still play both versions regularly, but dang it, I wanted Smash Run HD! Like Steve said, I think it's a real missed opportunity.
(That all said, I really DO wonder why the last three amiibo took so long to release; that, to me, was the smoking gun for the port annnnnnnnd now that doesn't seem to be the case...?)
I mean, never say never, I suppose, but it's been two years and we've had nothing but dead ends. I guess it doesn't really matter since I still play both versions regularly, but dang it, I wanted Smash Run HD! Like Steve said, I think it's a real missed opportunity.
(That all said, I really DO wonder why the last three amiibo took so long to release; that, to me, was the smoking gun for the port annnnnnnnd now that doesn't seem to be the case...?)