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Tales of Xillia Review Thread | More JRPGS? Yay!
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Uh. You're doing yourself a pretty big disservice.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
He said he bought it.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Wait, there are other people who dislike Ni no Kuni around here?
So I didn't have to stick my Ni no Kuni skewering elsewhere and could've posted it in that game's OT? Why didn't anyone tell me this? D:
So I didn't have to stick my Ni no Kuni skewering elsewhere and could've posted it in that game's OT? Why didn't anyone tell me this? D:
Did they make any changes to the supposedly broken multiplayer battles of the Japanese version? I love playing Tales games -- but only when I can play them together with my gf and a cousin of mine. It's become a tradition for us to play those games together and we always have a really great time doing so.
When Abyss 3D came out I realized that I really don't enjoy Tales games on my own anymore, so if Xillia is broken in that regard it would be honestly be a deal-breaker for me.
When Abyss 3D came out I realized that I really don't enjoy Tales games on my own anymore, so if Xillia is broken in that regard it would be honestly be a deal-breaker for me.
I suppose once a game gets moved to Community, it's safe to say how you really feel.
Rapscallion
Member
Why? Go Play Ni No Kuni first.
Granted, I haven't played this, but I found Ni No Kuni far better than any of the recent Tales games I've played (Vesperia, Graces F). It also looks a lot better visually.
Anyways, back on topic: How does this compare to Graces F in terms of flow? Graces F was had too many fetch quests for me, is this any better?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Still more fetch quests. A lot of the sidequests are essentially "kill this thing for me", "get this item for me", "talk to this person", etc.
I guess in terms of pacing, because Xillia's more designed and streamlined to take advantage of its narrative, it's better than Graces f in that regard.
Well, I wrote those impressions a month ago, so I guess it's not really worth it to cross-post.I suppose once a game gets moved to Community, it's safe to say how you really feel.
But I did have a ton of issues with the game when all was said and done. Those issues just added up and made the experience a poor Level 5 experience overall. They should really stick to puzzle games and visual novels. That's what they excel at. Their systems are never cohesive/tend to be half-baked and repetitive.
SkylineRKR
Member
Ni No Kuni starts off great but its as if Gibli withdrew their support after the opening chapter.
Its a run of the mill Level 5 RPG, with that very same kind of story and progression. Very safe, and by the numbers. Lava cave here, ice cave there.. Looks great, has good atmosphere and a good world map though. I can recommend it.
I got word that I can pick up Xillia tomorrow. Can't wait, I already enjoyed Graces F though its not among my faves in the franchise.
Its a run of the mill Level 5 RPG, with that very same kind of story and progression. Very safe, and by the numbers. Lava cave here, ice cave there.. Looks great, has good atmosphere and a good world map though. I can recommend it.
I got word that I can pick up Xillia tomorrow. Can't wait, I already enjoyed Graces F though its not among my faves in the franchise.
Why would you do that?
Member
I was sort of bumming hard after I spent $60 on Xillia a couple days ago (I actually had to sell some games to buy it, something I never do), but these good reviews really energized me, so thanks!
I know I won't enjoy it as much as Graces f and its amazing battle system, and I will continue to be sad about the removal of the standard overworld and flying around it end-game, but it will still be a pretty great game and an awesome experience.
Now It's kind of weird that, with all the reviews, I did not see one comparison to Graces f, at least not in the summaries posted. Just mentions to Vesperia and Symphonia. Did nobody really care about Graces f?
I know I won't enjoy it as much as Graces f and its amazing battle system, and I will continue to be sad about the removal of the standard overworld and flying around it end-game, but it will still be a pretty great game and an awesome experience.
Now It's kind of weird that, with all the reviews, I did not see one comparison to Graces f, at least not in the summaries posted. Just mentions to Vesperia and Symphonia. Did nobody really care about Graces f?
The DS version did end there!
YuriLowell
Member
NNK was a snooze fest.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
IGN didn't even review it, iirc.Now It's kind of weird that, with all the reviews, I did not see one comparison to Graces f, at least not in the summaries posted. Just mentions to Vesperia and Symphonia. Did nobody really care about Graces f?
Though I suppose reviews tend to compare games to the closest thing to it that game out that year (and the flavour of the week seems to be NNK), so I don't think it's too surprising for them to draw comparisons to it.
It's fair to discuss it here when so many Xillia reviews compare both games.
SoopaMan2K
Member
I want this so bad, but I have to pay for my FFXIV sub and get ready for GTAV. I may pick it up after GTAV.
That makes sense...that feels like where the game should have ended logically instead of the abruptness in how it actually ended.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Ni No Kuni started out good and went down hill after a while .
One of the fews rpgs i never going to finish .
Any way some good reviews looking forward to the game .
One of the fews rpgs i never going to finish .
Any way some good reviews looking forward to the game .
chickdigger802
Banned
people REALLY miss tales overworlds?
I still remember walking around the n64 era overworld in symphonia/abyss at like 20fps.
I still remember walking around the n64 era overworld in symphonia/abyss at like 20fps.
only a matter of time before someone spoils it then
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I dunno. I really liked Symphonia and Vesperia's overworlds. They felt nice.
Abyss's was pretty terrible, though. Haha.
Abyss's was pretty terrible, though. Haha.
Rapscallion
Member
I can imagine this will drop in price pretty quickly. Might be half the price tag by December.
This is the first native PS3 Tales game we're getting here in the states right? Graces F being an up-port and Vesperia being 360 only. Crazy to think, and it's already a 2 year old game.
This is the first native PS3 Tales game we're getting here in the states right? Graces F being an up-port and Vesperia being 360 only. Crazy to think, and it's already a 2 year old game.
I thought the same about Graces F but I didn't seem to find it cheaper than $40 until recently.
cleveridea
Member
I imagine price will drop like graces is now $38 on amazon. However, shipment seems really low for the limited edition, so if you want the extras that come with it then pick up ASAP.
I don't mind a lack of an overworld screen. EarthBound doesn't have one and it worked out great. It made the world feel much bigger, and going to a new area was exciting. You were never quite sure what kind of place your next destination would be because you couldn't just look over and see it from hundreds of miles away.
Why would you do that?
Member
I love it mostly because 1) the world feels bigger to me, and 2) the moment you get the ability to sail and/or fly around the whole planet is truly a special moment.
I don't know, I still think it makes too much sense to compare it to the previous Tales game on the same system. I mean, Ni no Kuni is totally different. Comparing Xillia to NNK is like comparing Mario 3 to Mega Man. Same genre, but poor comparison.
But that aside, with the media seemingly caring about this game more than Graces, maybe/hopefully it's a good indication Xillia will do OK here.
I didn't like the game either, got bored with it pretty early into the game and the battle system was quite a dissapointment
I heavily dislike Ni No Kuni. Great beginning, but I couldn't continue to force myself to play it after the ten hour mark. It was like smacking my face against the wall.
Canis lupus
Member
Woah a ten from TSA!
Weird, it works on Chrome but not FF(directs me to search.conduit.com which offline pages direct me to).
Weird, it works on Chrome but not FF(directs me to search.conduit.com which offline pages direct me to).
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
This is pretty much why I keep some opinions to myself.
But I did end up writing something 7 pages in Word as to why I didn't really enjoy it, so at least I justified myself!
Don't know about everyone else, but Ni no Kuni isn't a bad game. It just seems weird that it is now the standard for western reviewers now. If it's not Ni no Kuni, it 's bad apparently.
This is pretty much why I keep some opinions to myself.
It's okay. Ni no Kuni is a pretty cool game, but randomkid probably likes WKC too, being the Level-5 fan that he is.
This is pretty much why I keep some opinions to myself.
I definitely agree that Level 5 do tend to add a lot of half-baked systems/sub-systems in their games. Like they aren't confident that the core gameplay can last long so they have to keep adding more things to learn.
Meanwhile, Tales Studio is removing systems!
One is I guess an attempt to lure in more people. The other one just hurts your head and makes you question why they would do it.
This is pretty much why I keep some opinions to myself.
Me being a big jerk aside, I did like reading your post I think. It's when I read it in the context of DEEP TALES ANALYSIS that I get dickish haha. Level 5 haterz got nothing on my everlasting resentment for Tales.
Aeana I ain't even trying to respond to that, you know I got no love for WKCrap.
Out of curiosity, what is your background with the Tales games?
chickdigger802
Banned
pretty much every system that isn't combat is half baked in tales too!
And when it's done really well (Graces), people ignore it and whine about the story/characters like they're all that matter, so I guess Toki767 is right.
Phantasia and Symphonia. I am sure that the systems in Graces are as lovely as you all say they are, but there's this particularly grating mediocrity in Tales DNA that feels designed to specifically bug the everliving shit out of me. And the music .... ugh sorry, will stop ranting.
Okay. Well, that explains why you don't like Tales. Shrug.
Imagine if I quit playing Final Fantasy games after FF4, and that's kind of the situation you're in with Tales.
chickdigger802
Banned
you mean the whole enchanting thingy?
I don't think i ever really figured out what i was doing during my playthrough :/
I have a mild interest in this. Only Tales games I ever played was Symphonia and I loved it. Was pretty hyped for Vesperia but then my dreams were crushed when they inexplicably did not bring the PS3 version over to America. All these years later I'm still salty, and it's frustrating to go in the threads for Graces and Xilia and hear a pretty much unaminous "it's pretty good, but not as good as Vesperia" "Vesperia is definitely the best Tales this generation" etc. Pretty much killed my interest in the series.