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Tales Studio is in trouble
- Thread starter Bel Marduk
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Would really suck if it's true... Tales is a pretty solid RPG franchise, and Vesperia is one of the best RPGs to come out this gen. And yeah, marketing these games in the US would help them at least get a few sales, or at least license them out to Atlus. If Atlus can bring out all these niche games to the states, competently translated, and turn a profit, they must be doing something right...
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Probably the best thing to happen to the series since 2005.
RPGCrazied
Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
coming from someone that has a Yuri Avatar? xD
Dedication Through Light
Member
Well it took them forever to finally reach 10 million. I think they need to release Vesperia, no point having recorded all the parts and its just sitting their in their American office rotting away on PS3, lol.
I dont know, its hard to even take the series seriously anymore for anywhere outside of Japan because of how limited the releases are
I dont know, its hard to even take the series seriously anymore for anywhere outside of Japan because of how limited the releases are
2San said:
Well, Tales is really nothing more than a brand name. Even then, the radically different Team Destiny games (Destiny Remake, Rebirth, Hearts, Graces etc) never even get released outside of the US, so all we get is the Team Symphonia games which typically do follow similar plots and mostly use the same battle system.
As for the topic, given how I don't understand Japanese and also based on Duckroll's comments, I really can't say that this is anything conclusive. However, the fact that Namco has essentially run the series into the ground even in Japan is not really a good thing at all. Any sensible company would have let an outside publisher handle the western releases at the least (Atlus, XSEED, or even Ignition for God's sake), but who knows how the gears turn in the Namco upper management.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Coming from a long-time Tales fan, I rather have the series die than watch it being humiliated and abused continually by Namco Bandai incompetence.RPGCrazied said:
ULTROS!
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I like Tales... Well the only Tales game that I've actually played were Destiny and Abyss.
At worst (or best), they could go Digital Distribution in the Western continents.
At worst (or best), they could go Digital Distribution in the Western continents.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Or they could remake old titles for powerful consoles, Tales of Eternia HD would be awesome
Bel Marduk said:No, there's two different "main" teams along with some Tales games being outsourced. Team Symphonia recently did Vesperia and Team Destiny recently did Graces.Then we have Alfa System that did Innocence, and a combination of TS and TD members who did Hearts. Dimps also did Tempest but that's the only (and final) Tales they did.
That's alright then started to feel sorry of those guys. :lolMechaX said:
Sammy Samusu
Member
I thought Tales of Graces was part of that Nintendo third-party deals, like Samuwai Warriors, Monster Hunter, and Dragon Quest.
I was wrong.
I was wrong.
Was it even good? I hear people whining about the game coming here like Xenoblade, yet i distinctly remember people bashing it when it was first revealed.Sammy Samusu said:I thought Tales of Graces was part of that Nintendo third-party deals, like Samuwai Warriors, Monster Hunter, and Dragon Quest.
I was wrong.
gundamkyoukai
Member
What get's me angry at Namco is they don't want to bring out TOV for ps3 that's okay but at least give it to someone else to bring it over .
The game is half way done already also the need to stop bringing out so many tales games a year.
The game is half way done already also the need to stop bringing out so many tales games a year.
RPGCrazied
Member
Didn't Nintendo publish ToS?
Why can't they do the same here, with Graces?
Why can't they do the same here, with Graces?
Why would you do that?
Member
Glad it doesn't really say somethign baout them being in trouble, but
At this point, I'd blame Namco for this. All I want is ToV on the PS3 or ToG on the Wii, and I'll be happy.
this is the case for me as well. Tales series and certain Nintendo RPGs are the only RPGs I really play and really enjoy.Case said:
At this point, I'd blame Namco for this. All I want is ToV on the PS3 or ToG on the Wii, and I'll be happy.
What makes you think that would stop if Tales Studio closed? The only thing that would mean is Tales fans are no long guaranteed Team Symphonia and Team Destiny quality entries in any capacity.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Namco's had a lot of plans but ran into bad entries along the way because the milking stretched their resources way too thin, so the problem is that they had too many plans. Closing Tales Studio would just be the easy way out for Namco. If they're in trouble hopefully Namco stops the milking (too many ports to PSP) and come up with a plan that consists of games that don't sacrifice quality/expectations to get to something better (Tempest, Symphonia: DotNW). If they announce a new HD Tales that would be a good start, and I'm not say all ports are bad they just need a plan behind them (maybe ToPX will do better than ToR PSP).
I'm not sure what they should do in the west honestly. Not following up Symphonia right away was their biggest mistake then, and from what they've said recently they've given up on a lot when it comes to localization in general, much less when it comes to Tales.
lorddarkflare
Banned
Well, it was to be expected.
Namco seems to suck at making good business decisions...
Namco seems to suck at making good business decisions...
Dedication Through Light
Member
Synless said:
Vesperia did make it here cause they recorded the new lines and such (I think revealed just mere days or so ago). I think the code is just sitting in their office here rotting away for some reason, lol.
The problem isn't the amount of Tales games, it's the amount of platforms they are on. If they would release all of them on 1 platform, or 1 console and 1 handheld, they would create a fan base on said platforms. As it is, there are Wii games, an Xbox game, a PS3 game, DS games and PSP games. Do they really expect a niche franchise to be successful on all of those? There is a fan base, don't make it buy so many platforms.
The equivalent I can think of is FF7 on PS1, FF8 on N64 and FF9 on Saturn. The games might be very popular, but you can't make your fan base buy so many consoles.
I really hope Nintendo or Sony buy stocks in that team. The west is starving for RPGs
The equivalent I can think of is FF7 on PS1, FF8 on N64 and FF9 on Saturn. The games might be very popular, but you can't make your fan base buy so many consoles.
I really hope Nintendo or Sony buy stocks in that team. The west is starving for RPGs
Hell no. I fucking love Tales of games =(. They are fun, quirky in their own way and usually solid. Hell, I know I am gonna get flamed for this but Tales >Final Fantasy. Don't go under Tales studio! Just make Vesperia 2 and I'll buy like 50 copies. For fuck's sake I bought TOS 2 for Wii :lol
The Alchemist Penguin
Member
The Tales series is my favourite RPG series, so this is such a downer. Hopefully it isn't as bad as it sounds and they'll pull through okay. I have to wonder if I'd even notice a difference if the company went under, as it isn't like we've been getting much of their recent output anyway.
For Destiny, it's in hiatus for Tales of Phantasia (PSX) and Tales of Innocence (DS). The two fan translation groups who are collaborating on that are waiting until they're done with their respective projects to work on it more.snk2 said:
For Destiny 2, I heard they'd start it up more at the same time as Destiny DC.
RomanticHeroX
Member
I'd be happy to give them money, all they have to do is release a product I can buy.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I hope that it would push them to deliver more tales to worldwide.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Synless said:
It also a damn shame that Radiant Mythology 2, Innocence, and Hearts never came out. Each of them were also wonderful games.
Sammy Samusu
Member
GAF loved it and Famitsu ranked as the best Tales along with Tales of Abyss.avatar299 said:
Dedication Through Light said:
If you're talking about what that VA said, people showed that he had little idea what he was talking about, and he's given a lot of contradictory statements on the matter.
Plus, we have a poster who works at the studio that has done all the Tales localizations basically confirm that they have done no work on the PS3 version.
Why would you do that?
Member
Relix said:
In a Tales thread? I don't think so. :lol I agree with you, though. I think Tales is the best RPG series period, though.
Considering the RPGs Nintendo won't localize (well, there's still some hope for them, but still) I don't think they'd go for another company's RPG.Culex said:
nincompoop
Banned
ToG fan translations are in the works... there's already been a partial menu translation patch released:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/959197-tales-of-graces/55240542
And from the same thread...
Googling this guy's name led to some more information...
(This last post was from March)
So basically I wouldn't give up hope of playing ToG in English just yet.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/959197-tales-of-graces/55240542
And from the same thread...
Googling this guy's name led to some more information...
http://abyssc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=help&action=display&thread=4084&page=1
(This last post was from March)
So basically I wouldn't give up hope of playing ToG in English just yet.
Bel Marduk
Banned
Why would you do that? said:
I think Tales is the best GAME series, period :lol
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Haha, sad but true, I guess raping a dead corpse fits Namco well. But still, right now it feels like Namco Bandai wasted, is wasting and will waste Tales Studio potential with their series management. If they get rid of Tales Studio and continue to mismanage the series, that's too bad but at least no one would need to look forward to its deterioration anymore.jj984jj said:
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Agreed, the Tales Studios show over and over that they are capable of creating amazing world-class games.
It is a pity that management keeps the franchise from being as popular as it should be in Japan, USA, Europe, and other other countries. I mean, Japan is getting inundated with tales games, the USA and Europe are NOT GETTING ENOUGH of them. Rule number 1 in building your customer base is to satisfy customer desire by creating a need. You are not creating a need for tales games if they are not even being released in countries that WANT to like your games. If they cannot be profitable selling 100k copies of Graces and Vesperia PS3 (which are all but guaranteed in the states), there is something wrong with budgeting.
Market a Team Symphonia RPG well that is released simultaneously on the PS3 and the 360 and the potential for sales in the USA and Europe is great.
KibblesBits
Member
kswiston said:
Well, I guess they won't be getting my money.
snk2 said:
The Tales fan-translators do good work, but are notoriously slow/understaffed. Says something when games like Dragon Quest V, Front Mission 5, and even Namco X Capcom can get fan-translations quicker than a Tales game even despite how all three probably have just as much text as a Tales game. Hell, the Front Mission fanbase is considerably smaller than the Tales fanbase and that project got off the ground due to just one guy on GameFAQs and they're already working on translating the other unreleased FM games.
Personally, I always wondered why they never just get the menu/item stuff out of the way first for their projects like they did with Destiny 2.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Thank you for posting this! \o/nincompoop said:
Freyjadour
Member
That's been my only hope for quite a while on the Tales series. Innocence should drop any week now, Hearts appears to be in good hands, and now Graces seems to be getting a foundation as well.nincompoop said:
Urban Scholar
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Blader5489 said:
Funny this thread reminds me I need to get around to playing Abyss.