I have a 4K already that has good viewing angles, suppose I'll put the TCL in the bedroom then.
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TCL P607 P Series ( the new mid range/budget 4k/HDR recommendation)
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I have a 4K already that has good viewing angles, suppose I'll put the TCL in the bedroom then.
RedAssedApe
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Its probably an IPS panel. This (and most of the more expensive sets) use a VA panel which sacrifices viewing angle for better blacks.
SomewhatGroovy
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1) Wait is there a panel lottery on the 605/607? How can you tell what screen type you have?
2) Also, kinda OT but which of the streaming devices supports Hulu Plus? I have a subscription of Hulu's streamining channels, including HBO, and would like to play them on my TV
2) Also, kinda OT but which of the streaming devices supports Hulu Plus? I have a subscription of Hulu's streamining channels, including HBO, and would like to play them on my TV
RedAssedApe
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panel lottery in the sense that you might have varying degrees of uniformity, clouding, etc? probably but that goes for any tv.
they are all va panels though if that's what you were asking. the poster before me was talking about another tv he owned that he said had good viewing angles (which i assume is IPS) as all VA panels have bad viewing angles.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's probably my imagination, but the local dimming does seem to be a little bit better after the update.
I was going to say the same
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Goodness, only been an owner of the P series for a day and having spent a few hours seeing what4K gaming and movies off a 4K uhd disc look like, it's hard for me to readjust for 1080p images especially when the bitrate is poor.Watching a movie on Vudu was okay to me just a few days ago.
Yea I found it worth it as well. Imagine how I feel trying to play my ps3 games now lol
Is there an european equivalent to the P607 ?
https://twitter.com/tcl_europe/status/880696082514268165?lang=fr
https://twitter.com/tcl_europe/status/880696082514268165?lang=fr
I wonder why they pulled the update I already installed mine and it seems like it works better but I'm still curious.
I'm really not seeing the benefit of fald for games honestly. I turned it off. Makes the most difference in other media but maybe when I have an X and HDR games to play with will make more difference
I'm really not seeing the benefit of fald for games honestly. I turned it off. Makes the most difference in other media but maybe when I have an X and HDR games to play with will make more difference
GiantBombGamer
Member
With a One X on the way I think this is my next purchase. Debating whether I should wait to see if it drops a bit during Black Friday/Cyber Monday.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
I had to download the update manually from the Roku TV website, transfer it to a flash drive, factory restore the TV and run the update from USB.
So the website DOES have 7.7.0 build 4135-50? It doesn't show version anywhere. Even though it seems it was Roku who held it up?
I downloaded it to USB, but didn't install it cause I don't want to factory reset. What a headache.
DrROBschiz
Member
TV is sitting nicely at 650 but i wouldnt mind waiting for a special deal
Shit i wish i had jumped on it when Amazon was doing bonus cash back on TV purchases with your prime card
I didnt have my prime card setup at the time
Shit i wish i had jumped on it when Amazon was doing bonus cash back on TV purchases with your prime card
I didnt have my prime card setup at the time
I tested out a video where I was running into issues where the screen would flash consistent at the same spots and the recent update fixed that.
Unfortunately no. Not sure if it's true, but I think someone here said it may be related to an issue with the Roku OS in Europe.
Really wonder why it got pulled too. Hopefully whatever issues they found get patched on the TVs with the faulty update.
Regarding the benefits of FALD, have you tried flipping through the settings while in a darker area? With it off, you'll likely see some clouding in the corners of the screen. It's a huge improvement having it on.
Unfortunately no. Not sure if it's true, but I think someone here said it may be related to an issue with the Roku OS in Europe.
Really wonder why it got pulled too. Hopefully whatever issues they found get patched on the TVs with the faulty update.
Regarding the benefits of FALD, have you tried flipping through the settings while in a darker area? With it off, you'll likely see some clouding in the corners of the screen. It's a huge improvement having it on.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Is there an easy way to test for light bleed? My understanding is that it won't be noticeable while content plays on tv, no?
anexanhume
Member
So happy I took this thread's and others' advice and went for this TV. This will be a good stop gap until I can get HDMI2.1 OLED set for a reasonable price.
Can someone link me to the post that has the summary of what the update does?
Also, how can i verify my OG PS4 is doing HDR?
Can someone link me to the post that has the summary of what the update does?
Also, how can i verify my OG PS4 is doing HDR?
Outtrigger888
Member
I bought this TV for the same reason, I've had it for almost 2 months and am really happy with it. I'll be looking at budget sets going forward with my TV purchases.
mikespit1200
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Does the OG PS4 even support HDR?
RedAssedApe
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anexanhume
Member
Indeed it does. Mass Effect let me know it would be outputting HDR but I didn't know if it was a game to game thing for it to notify me.
Oh I definitely see it making blacks inky and removing bright spots on dark screens, but my issue is it seems to dim the bright a bit to much as well.
The algorithm may be not up to par. It isn't crushing blacks except in DV but it seems to be dimming the whole screen while darkening the dark, leaving brighter areas to be reduced as well.
In games especially the text on screen goes very dim from bright with a dark background.
I keep it on medium or high for Tv, movies, streaming but some games look too dimmed out and besides making black menus look good I don't think it's as effective form a results standpoint. But again that may change when I am playing HDR games
Violence Jack
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Yes. I'm playing Uncharted: The Lost Legacy on it right now, and this TV recognized it at the startup screen. It's taking a while for my eyes to get used to it.
For HDR Games crank color to 75 IMO
yeah go to youtube and search for black screen and play it with fald turned off
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
Unfortunately, the factory reset is required for a manual USB installation. Mainly because the option to install from USB isn't available unless you factory reset the TV. I know, it sucks, but that latest patch enables some important features, such as local dimming in Game Mode.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
In my experience FALD means a lot more for movies not games.
Most games aren't designed to utilize deep blacks.
Don't get me wrong FALD is amazing but in games it's value is less.
I see and yeah I get what you mean. I have mine set to high for everything and have been happy with the brightness.
It's pretty noticeable when FALD was disabled in games like Horizon Zero Dawn. I was so happy when they enabled FALD in game mode.
I followed Rtings guide but didn't touch the color space or white balance.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p-series-2017-p607/settings
Basically:
Picture mode: movie
TV brightness: normal for SD, brightest for HDR
Picture size: auto
Local contrast: high
Backlight: 20 for SDR, 100 for HDR
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 100
Sharpness: 0
Color: 45
Tint: 0
Color temperature: warm
Under 'Expert picture settings' in the smartphone Roku app I have noise reduction turned off and gamma around 2.2.
Really happy with how everything looks at these settings. Almost everything will switch automatically, so you will have to calibrate for separate settings when watching in SDR and HDR. The only setting I change manually when viewing SDR or HDR content is TV brightness between normal (SDR content) and brightest (HDR content).
Hope that helps.
Yup, standard dynamic range.
is the upscaler not that good in this tv? Was looking at it for christmas but I still want to be able to play my ps3 and 1080p games without my eyes falling out
1080p content upscales pretty damn well but anything under 1080p has been pretty hit-or-miss with me
Outtrigger888
Member
Switch games look damn good on this TV, way better than my 1080p set.
fald does a good job of masking the uniformity issues which was affecting me most with video games on loading screens and stuff like that. with fald in game mode it essentially makes this tv near perfect for the price.
CloudyTuba
Member
That's the dream. I got the Vizio P for similar reasons. To keep me satiated for another few years until that comes around at an affordable price.
RedAssedApe
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PS4 Netflix app was updated with hdr10 support. Someone a and b versus Dolby vision. 
One thing I noticed is that launching of the app triggers hdr10 immediately and even when watching sdr content it's using hdr10 picture modes.
I think Xbox one s owners complained about this too...
One thing I noticed is that launching of the app triggers hdr10 immediately and even when watching sdr content it's using hdr10 picture modes.
I think Xbox one s owners complained about this too...
SomewhatGroovy
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Thank you.
Mine is...not good. I can see bleeding randomly all over. Not just corners
https://imgur.com/C2IBndT
Down the rabbit hole! Haha
Yea the screen really has pretty good blacks without fald imo but I certainly have subtle bleeding grays without it, on black screens but with content on I never notice it. I think I got luck with this screen though
Then again this TV is in a dark room with ambient backlighting and I have TV backlight fairly low so that may explain why it doesn't bother me as much
Yeah, I have this update (7.7.0 build 4111-50). What I'm looking to find out is if the version currently on tvupdate.roku.com is the one I already have, or 7.7.0 Build 4135-30 that showed up OTA 2 days ago, and was promptly removed. I don't want to do a factory reset if it's the same version I already have.
No the upscale is pretty good but just playing old games doesn't compare. Been playing Bioshock infinite and looks decent but yea lol
SomewhatGroovy
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I've played with all settings. No big improvements.
I think I'll deal with it rather than risk going through the trouble of taking it back, bringing new one over , finding dead pixels instead...and just repeating that entire process.
Full array local dimming. It's how the screen is lit. Lots of little lighted zones instead of just edge lighting.
Full array local dimming I think